MMA gloves vs Boxing gloves

[Ninjaboy]

I have been reading a bunch of people mentioning the gloves the fighters use in MMA and boxing. Boxers usually use somewhere between 10-14 ounce gloves while the UFC fighters use 4 ounce gloves. I just wanted to clear one thing up real quick.....

A punch will hurt WAAAAY more if you got hit by a boxing glove than a MMA glove.

Fighters wear gloves to protect THEIR hands....not the opponents face. I would rather fight a guy bare fisted, and let me wear the gloves. 3 punches into the fight, if he landed good and I didn't go out, 1) he'd have broken some bone in his hand or 2) feel like he has broken some bone in his hand and will not swing as hard anymore.

The advantage of boxing gloves in NOT in the padding. The hissing sound you hear during a boxing match when a punch is thrown is the fighters breathing when they throw, not the air deflating out of the glove from the cushion. Every trained fighter is taught to breath when he punched so not to tire as fast. Thus the hiss hiss during punches. But also with the bigger glove, it is easier to block and deflect punches in defense.

Just a little info for the masses. Joe Rogan always seem to mention the "4 ounce baby gloves" during every show but he seem to always fail to mention the smaller the glove, the less powerful the impact. None of this applies to "right on the button" punches. A couch pillow can KO someone if hit "on the button". If you would like to try it out, get both types of gloves and let someone hit you in the forehead kinda light like with each. A small punch with a boxing glove will rattle you medulla ablongata.

Well said but its a different damage! MMA gloves cause more Cutaneous damage (more sting) to the dermis, and boxing gloves cause more neurological damage cause of the shock wave. You can take more neurological damage, and recover thats why Boxers go 12 rounds, and MMA fights are only 5 rounds max cause your eyes, cheeks and nose will be chopped liver. I still rather be hit with a boxing glove any day ova a MMA glove hence MMA gloves always hurt more, but I do have a headache after sparring with boxing gloves.

For example before queensbury rules two great bareknuckle prizefighters only threw a couple punches a round! Fights laster 20 rounds or more cause no one would stay in the pocket, just like what happens in MMA. Thats what makes for some boring fights no exchanges and two guys jumping in a out of the pocket to exchange combinations/technique, but no one counters cause you duhh have to be in the pocket to counter (except for the recent Fisher vs. Stout). Except for MMA upper level strikers with balls (Fisher v.s. Stout ex.).

I am not inferring to K-1 or Boxing guys that transistion to MMA either. It has been proven in many cases when K-1, and boxers fight a guy with MMA gloves they don't stay in the pocket either except for a minority (Hunt, Cung Le, Sakara, Stout, Ludwig etc... sometimes you'll even see Cro Cop stay on the outside ,and throw kicks ,and not stand his ground and not calling him a pussy or anything cause hes like one my favorites


Thats why I think Fedor and Gonzaga beat him cause they stayed pressing and coming forward. He'll circle you counter you with kicks or his left hand if you come forward, kick step to the left to make space, I heard boxing coaches call it quarterback snap and kick some more but when he hurts you with kicks thats then he usually exchanges with punches and then he's on your ass like flies on shit). No one wants to stay in the pocket and get hit with those little gloves Carter Williams, Mike Bernando all looked reluctant to stand and trade with 4oz gloves (although the grappling element played a part) on even both have knockout power in both hands..

Futhermore I train at American Top Team branch in Orlando, FL I talk my coach Paul Rodriguez (Marcio Simas, and Ricardo Liborio Brown Belt UFC 32, Shooto, pride bushido so hes been around the block). About seeing other MMA gyms spar MMA with 12 and 16 oz gloves on TV, the TUF shows the Tapout show etc.. (I actually thought it would be a good idea) He said its counterproductive cause you wouldn't wear them in a fight, and gives a false sense of security, and make a guy more likely to stand and trade like you see in a boxing match (throw like a 4 or 5 punch combo). So we wear the 6 oz MMA glove made by combat sports, Title and other when we spar.

 

[sweeneytx]

OK think of it like this: getting hit with an MMA glove would be like being hit with a baseball, and getting hit with a boxing glove would be like getting hit with a basketball. Both balls are traveling at the same speed, they both hurt the same amount, only one hits more of your face than the other.

Show me a 100mph basketball fastball.

 

[Oebla]

Guess what, you just proved yourself wrong when trying to argue 10oz hits harder than 4. Go learn the basics principals of collision.

Maybe ponder this question

When a bug hits a windshield which experiences more force? the bug or the windshield?

answer forthcoming

Bullshit.

10oz and 4 oz have the same thickness of protection. Only 10oz has protection around the whole hand, MMA gloves have only protection 2 by 2 inch. This 2 by 2 inch protection on top of MMA gloves weight 4oz. When you cut 2 by 2 inch out of a 10oz boxing glove, you will also get 4oz of protection.

Because of the bigger surface and more weight compared to MMA gloves, makes a boxing glove hit heavier.

And no, 12oz gloves don't harder because of the weight. 12oz have thicker protection then 10oz, which make the impact less.

 

[Oebla]

MMA gloves are much more effective, doing more damage...And you should tape up the hands when wearing MMA gloves...

MMA gloves are more effective because they are smaller and because of that easier to hit. It has nothing to do with the power/harness of MMA gloves. When you are stunned, it very hard to block punches with MMA gloves. That makes them so effective.

 

[Ninjaboy]

MMA gloves are more effective because they are smaller and because of that easier to hit. It has nothing to do with the power/harness of MMA gloves. When you are stunned, it very hard to block punches with MMA gloves. That makes them so effective.

Thats why that shell up defense you saw Rampage use when he was hurt (that you see in boxing and kickboxing but Mike Zambidis does it too and gets away with for a while) against the whole Chute Boxe is useless in MMA.

 

[FIGHTING TALK]

Bullshit.

10oz and 4 oz have the same thickness of protection. Only 10oz has protection around the whole hand, MMA gloves have only protection 2 by 2 inch. This 2 by 2 inch protection on top of MMA gloves weight 4oz. When you cut 2 by 2 inch out of a 10oz boxing glove, you will also get 4oz of protection.

Because of the bigger surface and more weight compared to MMA gloves, makes a boxing glove hit heavier.

And no, 12oz gloves don't harder because of the weight. 12oz have thicker protection then 10oz, which make the impact less.

No.
MMA gloves are much skinnier than boxing gloves. have you ever opened one up? Cus I have. The foam in an MMA glove is not only cut thinner but it is more dense.
I suggest you open up all your gloves and find out for yourself.

 

[kaipo13]

I dont want to sound like an idiot but i think you totaly wrong.

I have trained in a fightes class for Kickboxing and Boxing sparring with ametuers helping them train for there fights. I trained with 16 ounce gloves though not 12-14. I can tell you that unless u get hit sweetly or hit by a much bigger guy with those gloves it just shakes you up abit nothing more and you can take alot more punishment.

Getting hit with mma gloves although i have never trained mma i can only imagine would rock the hell out of you. I dont think you realise how much the added padding takes out of punch. The only down side is that the gloves make the hits heavier b/c of the added weight but there is not as much sting in the punches.

The fact of the matter is that all the padding in the bigger gloves actually make them much, much more dangerous to fight with. What really messes you up is the repeated trauma caused by your brain banging against your skull within your skull. This is why there is sometimes swelling in the brain which is what is really dangerous. In MMA with the little gloves sure you get knocked out quicker, but believe it or not that is a good thing. At least your brain isn't getting damaged again and again and again as your opponent continues to hit you in the head, but just doesn't knock you out due to the extra padding in the bigger gloves. I guess if you really enjoy people getting hit in the head, boxing is your sport. However, this is not in the best interests of the participants. You really wanna end up like Ali? This is why there have been several documented deaths in boxing and none in MMA. Big gloves might give the illusion of doing less damage, but in reality are doing way more to the part of you that really matters(your brain!)

 

[Oebla]

No.
MMA gloves are much skinnier than boxing gloves. have you ever opened one up? Cus I have. The foam in an MMA glove is not only cut thinner but it is more dense.
I suggest you open up all your gloves and find out for yourself.

Dude look at the UFC gloves, they are pretty thick on the part you punch.

Go feel your own 10oz gloves home (AT LEAST WHEN YOU HAVE THEM). Otherwise you should shut your face, because you don't know were you talking about.

10oz gloves are hard just as thick as those MMA gloves, and there is no way the MMA gloves are more dense then the Boxing gloves, because otherwise you would kill someone with it.

 

[Oebla]

Thats why that shell up defense you saw Rampage use when he was hurt (that you see in boxing and kickboxing but Mike Zambidis does it too and gets away with for a while) against the whole Chute Boxe is useless in MMA.

That's a perfect way to block punches with small gloves. But still do boxing gloves make it much easier to block.

 

[MileHigh Hitman]

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[Uncle Rico]

What do heavyweight boxers fight with?

10 oz.

 

[Black-Rob]

I'm on the fence with this one. I do know that they made the gloves larger because the lighter gloves were considered more dangerous, but then there are stories of fighters going over 20 rounds with lighter gloves.

If the larger boxing gloves are more dangerous, then why did they outlaw lighter ounced gloves in boxing?

Less protection for the hands with lighter gloves. But just because the 10 oz have more protection don't mean they are softer. Just like the guy taking the punch, the bigger glove spreads the impact of the punch over the whole hand, causing less breakage.

 

[man im tuff]

at my gym when we spar sometimes we "grapple-box", which is like mma with boxing gloves, and when we do that we usually go about 80% force with the punches and yeah it hurts but not as bad as when you get hit with an mma glove, the boxing glove might give your more momentum behind a punch but your logic is wrong. sorry.

 

[Uncle Rico]

Boxers @ WW (147 lbs) & under wore 8 oz. gloves to fight (may have changed to 10 oz). JMW (154 lbs) & up wear 10 oz. New 10 oz. gloves are very hard & will do alot of damage. Most pros spar with 16 oz. gloves.

Someone posted something like- 4 oz.gloves would cause more damage. 10 oz. gloves are bigger so there would be more impact. I agree.

If u could pick one of the two to be hit with, by all means pick the bigger glove.

 

[Oebla]

If u could pick one of the two to be hit with, by all means pick the bigger glove.

I would pick them too, but after seeing what 10oz can do I don't know.. hahaha

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[Uncle Rico]

I would pick them too, but after seeing what 10oz can do I don't know.. hahaha

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I hear ya bro. Neither is goin to feel good & knocked out is knocked out whether it's with a fist, a 4 oz, or a 10 oz.

But yeah, on the average the smaller glove will do more external damage.

 

[Jeremy Mahon]

you know most MMA gloves are different, the weight may be the same (4oz) but the distribution and desnity is different. i had a fight in the IFC and they use gloves made by "kikskin ", let me tell you, the kikskin gloves hurt like a bitch. they are very wieghted feeling almost like they have gel instead fo foam padding, its hard to explain i guess but they really hurt when you get hit. other times we have used "Amber" mma gloves and they are allot more padded feeling and feel much lighter although they are the same weight. anyhow i just thought it may add something to this topic. i dont kow how to add pics but heres the link if you wanted to see the kikskin glove.


http://www.kikskinmartialarts.com/valetudoglove.asp

 

[Fo Xuesheng]

my old instructor had a dictum that said: hard target (the head) soft hand (open palm strike), soft target (the stomach) hard hand (fist). the logic being that an open palm strike has more surface area and is more concussive while a fist will wreck the guts. also, the striker takes less damage striking the head with a palm than with a fist. there were other reasons specific to the style he taught, like having the thumb cocked when palm striking (for eye-gouges), that don't necessarily pertain to mma
So, in terms of gloves, I guess I would say I'd rather get hit in the head with an mma glove and take a body shot with a boxing glove, but I'm not the most qualified to answer with %100 certainty

 

[Jeremy Mahon]

my old instructor had a dictum that said: hard target (the head) soft hand (open palm strike), soft target (the stomach) hard hand (fist). the logic being that an open palm strike has more surface area and is more concussive while a fist will wreck the guts. also, the striker takes less damage striking the head with a palm than with a fist. there were other reasons specific to the style he taught, like having the thumb cocked when palm striking (for eye-gouges), that don't necessarily pertain to mma
So, in terms of gloves, I guess I would say I'd rather get hit in the head with an mma glove and take a body shot with a boxing glove, but I'm not the most qualified to answer with %100 certainty

yeah trust me dude id rather it the other way around...but then i have a very pretty face and hate when its bloody (which is allot)

 

[welsh_boxer]

Lol At The Thread Starter For Thinking That People Think That The 'hiss' A Fighter Makes When Throwing A Punch(s) Is In Anyway Related To The Air In The Boxing Glove. I Mean Come On.

Also, So What If You Know Someone Who Dated Oliver Mccall, Does That Make You In Any Way An Expert? What Did You Do Follow Him Down To The Gym And Ask Him Why He Was Hissing While He Was Hitting The Bag?

As I Said Before, I Compete Regularly In Boxing At An Amaetur Level - So What If It Is Amateur, At Least I Am Out There Developing And Testing Myself Instead Of Making Half-assed Assumptions Over A Coffee And From Behind My Keyboard.

Lol At The Thread Starter