MMA gloves vs Boxing gloves

[vyce77]

Simple physics mean that this argument is basically dependent on who is throwing the punch. The force of the punch is dependent on the weight of the glove and how fast it is moving when it hits you. Obviously, lighter gloves would move faster but clearly a heavier glove can do as much damage if it moves at a reasonable speed itself.

As far as it being better to be hit with one or the other, the pressure exerted is the force divided by the area. So if the glove is smaller, the pressure will be more than for a punch of the same force thrown in a larger glove. It all depends on the ratios of speed/weight and force/area.

Basically, the glove size and weight isn't as important as who is wearing them. A good boxer can hit just as hard in heavy gloves as a good MMA striker can punch in smaller gloves.

If you are going to try to use science do it right...

you guys are arguing basic impact, and mass laws, yet forgetting (or too ignorant to realize) the most important principle. The transfer of energy... the large glove has more energy dispersion, therefore that energy lost is not transferred to the person recieving the blow. MMA gloves have much less energy dispersion, therefor that power is more directly transferred to the person receiving the blow. I don't want to have to explain the basics of energy transfer or conservation of momentum, so please google if my terms confuse you.

 

[georgejjr]

The threadstarter is correct in saying gloves are primarily there to protect the puncher's hand, not the person being hit. Anyone who doesn't believe this just has to try punching someone's forehead ... or read up on the history of boxing. Gloves were added because the fights were going too long, because boxers had to hold back on their punches.

In terms of impact, there's really not much difference in being hit by a 4 oz and a 12 oz glove, at least not if thrown by heavyweights. If Tyson were throwing punches at me, it wouldn't make any difference which he was wearing if he connected :icon_chee

The biggest difference is, as someone pointed out, in terms of defense. 12 oz gloves have a bigger cross section, making it much easier to block punches.

 

[FIGHTING TALK]

1. threadstarter a moron

2. buildings collapse not when heat lowers the ultimate tensile strengths of steel to a collapseable load, but rater when the yield strength point is exceeded. I am a licensed engineer, you are a cook with a tinfoil hat.

This may be one of my favorite threads at displaying who are near retarded IQ levels on this forum

lol!!

LOMOFOL!!!

One of my favourite posts on sherdog this year. Respect.

 

[FIGHTING TALK]

i do boxing and imo good boxing gloves gives you more punching power. they don't do cuts but they stun you more than naked fist

No. You only feel like you are punching harder now that you are wearing good gloves because since they are such exceptional quality the hand is kept tight and you now have the confidence to put more power into each punch without the fear of hurting your hand.

If you just wrapped your hand well and lost your temper (but still using proper technique) punched the bag you would be punching faster, harder and do more damage.

The only reason it feels like you are punching harder is because we dont normally punch to our full power capacity with bare fists, for obvious reasons.

 

[omablata]

Why did the bare knuckle matches in the old days go for so long?? Why did the increase in KO's start once the big gloves were introduced??

 

[facethemusic]

Boxing gloves are good while working out at the gym. MMA gloves get things handled better though.

 

[user-name]

Boxing with MMA gloves would be dangerous.

 

[Addiktive]

If you are going to try to use science do it right...

you guys are arguing basic impact, and mass laws, yet forgetting (or too ignorant to realize) the most important principle. The transfer of energy... the large glove has more energy dispersion, therefore that energy lost is not transferred to the person recieving the blow. MMA gloves have much less energy dispersion, therefor that power is more directly transferred to the person receiving the blow. I don't want to have to explain the basics of energy transfer or conservation of momentum, so please google if my terms confuse you.

It all depends on how padded the glove is though, as well as the area making contact. I'm assuming the 'give' in both gloves is equal and bringing it down to basic principles. My main point is that the weight and size of the gloves are secondary to the abilities of the person throwing the punch so this is, in the end, a pointless argument.

 

[Jperran]

Oh my FUCKING god you people are stupid.

If you have never been hit with a boxing glove and an mma glove, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

 

[vyce77]

I'm assuming the 'give' in both gloves is equal and bringing it down to basic principles. My main point is that the weight and size of the gloves are secondary to the abilities of the person throwing the punch so this is, in the end, a pointless argument.

horribly wrong assumption... I have my mma 4 oz gloves sitting next to me, along with my 16oz gloves... the "give" isn't even close to being equal

 

[vyce77]

lol!!

LOMOFOL!!!

One of my favourite posts on sherdog this year. Respect.

Thanks for props, respect

 

[Oebla]

Oh my FUCKING god you people are stupid.

If you have never been hit with a boxing glove and an mma glove, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Indeed.

I have been hit by bare hands and with Boxing gloves. A punch with no gloves does hurt and cuts easily. You take them and you can continue. Getting hit at the gym by 12oz boxing gloves, gives you a spinning feeling for some time.

As long you don't get hit on the chin, boxing gloves do much more damage then 4oz gloves. The bigger impact of the heavier gloves, make them do more damage to the brain.

 

[FIGHTING TALK]

Indeed.

I have been hit by bare hands and with Boxing gloves. A punch with no gloves does hurt and cuts easily. You take them and you can continue. Getting hit at the gym by 12oz boxing gloves, gives you a spinning feeling for some time.

As long you don't get hit on the chin, boxing gloves do much more damage then 4oz gloves. The bigger impact of the heavier gloves, make them do more damage to the brain.

No, no and no.

Go back and read the entire thread before posting again.

Being hit with a boxing glove feels like you have been hit with, well, a boxing glove.
Being hit with an MMA glove feels like you have been hit with a lightly padded, but very real, BRICK!

So many people commenting, yet so few who have actually experienced being hit with MMA gloves.

 

[Oebla]

horribly wrong assumption... I have my mma 4 oz gloves sitting next to me, along with my 16oz gloves... the "give" isn't even close to being equal

16oz is like a sponge. My 16oz gloves even feel nice getting hit with.

10oz is much more leather then protection. They are very much equal to 4oz mma gloves.

 

[Oebla]

No, no and no.

Go back and read the entire thread before posting again.

Being hit with a boxing glove feels like you have been hit with, well, a boxing glove.
Being hit with an MMA glove feels like you have been hit with a lightly padded, but very real, BRICK!

So many people commenting, yet so few who have actually experienced being hit with MMA gloves.

Getting hit with 8/10oz is like getting hit by a train.

The thing is that boxing gloves do much more damage to the brain, while mma gloves do more damage to the outside/skin.

 

[zakw845]

I have been reading a bunch of people mentioning the gloves the fighters use in MMA and boxing. Boxers usually use somewhere between 10-14 ounce gloves while the UFC fighters use 4 ounce gloves. I just wanted to clear one thing up real quick.....

A punch will hurt WAAAAY more if you got hit by a boxing glove than a MMA glove.

Fighters wear gloves to protect THEIR hands....not the opponents face. I would rather fight a guy bare fisted, and let me wear the gloves. 3 punches into the fight, if he landed good and I didn't go out, 1) he'd have broken some bone in his hand or 2) feel like he has broken some bone in his hand and will not swing as hard anymore.

The advantage of boxing gloves in NOT in the padding. The hissing sound you hear during a boxing match when a punch is thrown is the fighters breathing when they throw, not the air deflating out of the glove from the cushion. Every trained fighter is taught to breath when he punched so not to tire as fast. Thus the hiss hiss during punches. But also with the bigger glove, it is easier to block and deflect punches in defense.

Just a little info for the masses. Joe Rogan always seem to mention the "4 ounce baby gloves" during every show but he seem to always fail to mention the smaller the glove, the less powerful the impact. None of this applies to "right on the button" punches. A couch pillow can KO someone if hit "on the button". If you would like to try it out, get both types of gloves and let someone hit you in the forehead kinda light like with each. A small punch with a boxing glove will rattle you medulla ablongata.

your wrong, Why do MMA fighters get dropped from 1punch so much more often than boxers. It is because of the gloves. Boxing gloves protect hands and the face of the fighters and allows them to throw punches with more force. But that force is not 'natural' for the body.

Look its just like rugby and american football. In football you have all this padding which allows you to throw yourbody around with tremendous force, that you couldnt in rugby or you'd break your collar bone every time.

So the padding creates more devastating hits but it also allows you to withstand unnatural forces. Thats why there are former football players and boxers whose brains and bodies are fried. Their bodies took more force which does more longterm damage but the padding protects them in the short term allowing them to continue to fight/play

 

[Lew_Boy]

A punch will hurt WAAAAY more if you got hit by a boxing glove than a MMA glove.

Well your obviously a 14 year old kid who hasn't been hit by either.

 

[Aswipe]

Ban.

 

[vyce77]

Getting hit with 8/10oz is like getting hit by a train.

The thing is that boxing gloves do much more damage to the brain, while mma gloves do more damage to the outside/skin.

you are an idiot as well, that is of course unless your 8/10oz gloves penetrate matter and directly hit the brain inside the skull.

 

[VecFighter]

the amount of people on this thread talking shit pisses me off....hes making a point and i can tell you that its a pretty good point. it may not be perfect but its still pretty solid. sure you can take anyone's opinion and poke it full of holes but the only thing he was trying to say was that boxing gloves aren't pillows, as some people think

obviously both gloves hurt, and both gloves offer knockout power but its tough to compare the two other than that. boxers need them for defense, mma need theirs for grappling. i would actually love to ask chuck if he would prefer a heavier glove, that really makes me wonder since hes primarily a stand up guy.

also sparring gloves are not equivalent to the actual glove they use in a hw fight. so all you guys that have practiced with sparring gloves and try to compare them to mma gloves is a moot point.

i agree that mma gloves will cut and break things more easily, no one is arguing that. but the repeated abuse you get from a 10oz glove is brutal and there is much more brain rattling