Mike Tyson vs Jon Jones: The duality of fans

Keep telling yourself that when your typing many multi paragraph replies
I don't think it should be surprising to anyone here that you have difficulty reading and understanding basic points or reading a 30 second post.

You certainly don't come off as someone bright or thoughtful in any capacity.

Most of your words just seem empty, fuelled by feelings and biases. You don't seem to have any capacity for critical thought.
 
I don't think it should be surprising to anyone here that you have difficulty reading and understanding basic points or reading a 30 second post.

You certainly don't come off as someone bright or thoughtful in any capacity.

Most of your words just seem empty, fuelled by feelings and biases. You don't seem to have any capacity for critical thought.

Your lack of self awareness is quite a sight to behold. Either words are empty and shallow or their filled with emotion. They can't be both but of course you won't see you're contradicting yourself.

Your posts are nothing but self righteous pontifications to make yourself feel better by fooling yourself that your on some moral high ground while simultaneously being condescending. Most of what you say is vapid since it's tangents based on things no one said.

Its pretty funny how emotional you got at reading my original reply as to why people hate on Jon but not Tyson. Read the rest of the thread and you'll see that what I said is exact sentiment everyone has. Jon comes off as an unremorseful socio path that tries to play the part of a Christian while beating his wife behind closed doors. Of course no one is perfect but most people recognize that domestic abuse is vile.
The way you defend Jon makes it obvious that your either Dana White, Jon himself, a family member or a hopeless nuthugger that is so infatuated by him that you feel the need to write 10+ paragraph responses to defend him (utterly pathetic).

Keep doubling down though with your supposed professional opinion that is on par with that of a 12 yr old though. I'll keep chuckling at how much you squirm
 
Your lack of self awareness is quite a sight to behold. Either words are empty and shallow or their filled with emotion. They can't be both but of course you won't see you're contradicting yourself.

Your posts are nothing but self righteous pontifications to make yourself feel better by fooling yourself that your on some moral high ground while simultaneously being condescending. Most of what you say is vapid since it's tangents based on things no one said.

Its pretty funny how emotional you got at reading my original reply as to why people hate on Jon but not Tyson. Read the rest of the thread and you'll see that what I said is exact sentiment everyone has. Jon comes off as an unremorseful socio path that tries to play the part of a Christian while beating his wife behind closed doors. Of course no one is perfect but most people recognize that domestic abuse is vile.
The way you defend Jon makes it obvious that your either Dana White, Jon himself, a family member or a hopeless nuthugger that is so infatuated by him that you feel the need to write 10+ paragraph responses to defend him (utterly pathetic).

Keep doubling down though with your supposed professional opinion that is on par with that of a 12 yr old though. I'll keep chuckling at how much you squirm
Problem is, you don't seem to have actually read anything said in this entire thread. Nor have you provided any sort of response or acknowledgement to the points made, or the questions that should arise.

Everything said here is very general and can be universally applied to a number of figures within entertainment, or even those within the archives of psychotherapy, psychiatry, alcohol and substance abuse or even just the every day man.

I'm simply playing devils advocate and acknowledging that humans are more than can be understood with such shallow, black and white thinking with clear emotional attachment.

I think the level of effort and thinking you put into actually understanding people is shockingly low, but you speak in absolutes with the utmost confidence. All I'm really saying is that to understand character and human souls, requires much, much more effort than you seem capable of.

As I've said, you treat humans like you're voting for a 2 party political system. But nobody is one and not the other, we are all a combination of black, white, grey and all the things in between.

You have been trained to only focus on the negative, but you ignore 99% of the available data required to understand and analyze the full spectrum of a person.

People do this all over the internet, in every comment section and forum with regards to all public figures. There's no depth, it's a lot of hypocrites with massive character flaws, shallow mentalities with little critical thought or soul development, larping as moral judges of integrity when they're the furthest thing from that.

Often times people who've never truly suffered, been tested in life, or done the inner work and battled with the demons and darker side of human nature.

It's just another way to project and feign illusory superiority, when they themselves haven't even taken a deeper look at their own holes, limitations and mistakes in life.

It's less about Jon and more about the glaring limitations with how people like you see and analyze the world, as well as the people in it.

You seem to care more about what the majority are doing than actually figuring things out for yourself. You're a follower, just like so many others.
 
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Tyson never pretended to be a good guy, until he became a good guy.

Jones is POS liar who pretends to be a good guy and is not.
 
Problem is, you don't seem to have actually read anything said in this entire thread. Nor have you provided any sort of response or acknowledgement to the points made, or the questions that should arise.

Everything said here is very general and can be universally applied to a number of figures within entertainment, or even those within the archives of psychotherapy, psychiatry, alcohol and substance abuse or even just the every day man.

I'm simply playing devils advocate and acknowledging that humans are more than can be understood with such shallow, black and white thinking with clear emotional attachment.

I think the level of effort and thinking you put into actually understanding people is shockingly low, but you speak in absolutes with the utmost confidence. All I'm really saying is that to understand character and human souls, requires much, much more effort than you seem capable of.

As I've said, you treat humans like you're voting for a 2 party political system. But nobody is one and not the other, we are all a combination of black, white, grey and all the things in between.

You have been trained to only focus on the negative, but you ignore 99% of the available data required to understand and analyze the full spectrum of a person.

People do this all over the internet, in every comment section and forum with regards to all public figures. There's no depth, it's a lot of hypocrites with massive character flaws, shallow mentalities with little critical thought or soul development, larping as moral judges of integrity when they're the furthest thing from that.

Often times people who've never truly suffered, been tested in life, or done the inner work and battled with the demons and darker side of human nature.

It's just another way to project and feign illusory superiority, when they themselves haven't even taken a deeper look at their own holes, limitations and mistakes in life.

It's less about Jon and more about the glaring limitations with how people like you see and analyze the world, as well as the people in it.

You seem to care more about what the majority are doing than actually figuring things out for yourself. You're a follower, just like so many others.

LMFAO!

You write so much but within 2 sentences (I don't read much more than that) it's obvious that most of what you're saying is nonsense anyone can see right thru and straight denial of what's in front of you.

You're so high on your own self importance it's hilarious <lol>

All you do is project, contradict yourself and make a fool of yourself. Keep on replying bud. It's clear I'm rent free in your head. Especially since you're following me into other threads.

It is pretty roomy in here so I think I'll kick my feet up stay.
 
LMFAO!

You write so much but within 2 sentences (I don't read much more than that) it's obvious that most of what you're saying is nonsense anyone can see right thru and straight denial of what's in front of you.

You're so high on your own self importance it's hilarious <lol>

All you do is project, contradict yourself and make a fool of yourself. Keep on replying bud. It's clear I'm rent free in your head. Especially since you're following me into other threads.

It is pretty roomy in here so I think I'll kick my feet up stay.
As I expected, you aren't actually reading and attempting to understand what's being said or the points made.

You make a lot of absolute statements based on very little information which is filtered through your own extremely biased lens.

You've only proved my point that the way you operate is very shallow and you don't actually put much thought into things before speaking.

Someone who can't be bothered to actually figure out what a person is saying before throwing out their opinions isn't someone who can be trusted to analyze character in any meaningful way.

Seems that energy would be better focused looking yourself in the mirror and acknowledging you are clearly the last person who should be acting like a moral judge of another's soul.
 
As I expected, you aren't actually reading and attempting to understand what's being said or the points made.
Yes i have better things to do than to pretend to psycho analyze a rando online
You make a lot of absolute statements based on very little information which is filtered through your own extremely biased lens.
Again with this shit. This is exactly what pissed you off when its factually wrong.

For a 3rd time I literally said "seems", "seemingly", "comes off as"... but keep singing that song to make yourself feel better lol
 
It's simple for me. I don't believe Tyson raped her.

If you look into the details of that case it really just came down to her word against his, with no credible evidence, and he had this public image of being violent person so he was found guilty.
 
In terms of who’s the better fighter in their sport it is Jones by a mile nostalgia aside. I was a big Tyson fan as a youngster. But he folded up shop and got whooped by every great fighter he ever fought. Dominated in a time of weak heavyweights. Jones beat all the best of his era and broke them.
You don't think Larry Holmes was a great fighter?
 
Yes i have better things to do than to pretend to psycho analyze a rando online

Again with this shit. This is exactly what pissed you off when its factually wrong.

For a 3rd time I literally said "seems", "seemingly", "comes off as"... but keep singing that song to make yourself feel better lol
How you do one thing is how you do everything.

If you have an opinion on something, anything, then it's wise to be critically minded and put effort into doing your homework. Otherwise, don't have the opinion.

This sort of half assed, lazy and small minded energy will follow us into every aspect of life. From martial arts, to relationships, business and money.

It's all the same shit

It's not a flaw to be diligent of what we speak upon. It's something the highest level people on planet earth do.
 
How you do one thing is how you do everything.

If you have an opinion on something, anything, then it's wise to be critically minded and put effort into doing your homework. Otherwise, don't have the opinion.

This sort of half assed, lazy and small minded energy will follow us into every aspect of life. From martial arts, to relationships, business and money.

It's all the same shit

It's not a flaw to be diligent of what we speak upon. It's something the highest level people on planet earth do.

Nah man. Anyone with 2 braincells together knows that some things require diligence and effort. Things like throwing a piece of paper in the trash or walking down the street don't require tons of thought, diligence or discipline. If you're spending time thinking and analyzing simple things that don't matter then you don't know how to prioritize.

If that's what you want to do go ahead. Make anonymous posting on a random forum as important as your job all ypu want. I'm sure you'll go gat with that
 
Nah man. Anyone with 2 braincells together knows that some things require diligence and effort. Things like throwing a piece of paper in the trash or walking down the street don't require tons of thought, diligence or discipline. If you're spending time thinking and analyzing simple things that don't matter then you don't know how to prioritize.

If that's what you want to do go ahead. Make anonymous posting on a random forum as important as your job all ypu want. I'm sure you'll go gat with that
Critical thought applies to every aspect of life.

That same framework is the foundation for everything you do.

Your lack of it Is a big reason why you don't seem to actually understand the deeper layers of this world or the people in it.

Every opinion you seem to hold comes off lazy and half hearted. You speak confidently with surface level understanding of most topics.

You might think you're priorizing effort and energy, but these kinds of oversights have a lot of consequences.

Being able to think critically, solve problems, think outside the box, without bias or emotion, finding patterns and connections where others see none, is the foundation of intelligence and ultimately, sets the stage for every aspect of life.

Debating on any topic, from martial arts, to nutrition, philosophy, world events or whatever is nothing more than a test for how you approach the world and it has its benefits.

It doesn't take much to analyze and debate any topic once you've put some effort into building a foundation.

You think I'm investing way more energy into these posts than I actually am, trust me, I'm not.
 
Your lack of it Is a big reason why you don't seem to actually understand the deeper layers of this world or the people in it.
Hilarious that you think you're getting serious meaningful conversations from anons online. You should get out and actually try talking to people in person.
You might think you're priorizing effort and energy, but these kinds of oversights have a lot of consequences.
You might think you're accomplishing something by posting online but your actually not.

You think I'm investing way more energy into these posts than I actually am, trust me, I'm not.

you’ve just made dozens of posts about how you put so much effort and thought into posting and because I called out how much of a fool's errand it is you're trying to down play it. ROFLMFAO!
 
Hilarious that you think you're getting serious meaningful conversations from anons online. You should get out and actually try talking to people in person.

You might think you're accomplishing something by posting online but your actually not.



you’ve just made dozens of posts about how you put so much effort and thought into posting and because I called out how much of a fool's errand it is you're trying to down play it. ROFLMFAO!

Not sure what reality you live in where 3k posts in 18 months is a lot. It ain't shit, especially if you write a lot. I went to school for most of this accounts history, debating about random shit served me well, keeps the sword sharp, warms you up well and I'll continue to do it.

You seemed impressed and almost mystified by me being able to type long paragraphs too.

A lot of people are chill and discuss things like men, there's some smart people here. I throw ideas at you, you immediately get butt hurt, start throwing shade and your mentality reverts to high-school.

Arrested development at its finest.

You just aren't the brightest human, that's the reality here. You have no business even speaking the way you do.

Being a fool isn't a flex. If you were a man, you'd have just took the L a long time ago, but you just keep doubling down, keep embarrassing yourself and exposing more and more of how mid your brain is.
 
You seemed impressed and almost mystified by me being able to type long paragraphs too.
Nope I feel sorry for people who type that much with there thumbs. And if you're doing it on a computer it's even more pathetic.


A lot of people are chill and discuss things like men
Yup. You're not one of them. You feel the need to get on your high horse and brag about how great you are and what an "independent outlier of a thinker you are". Imagine thinking that posting that makes you look cool or smart <seedat>

I throw ideas at you, you immediately get butt hurt, start throwing shade and your mentality reverts to high-school.
Wrong again. All you did was complain and act self righteous from your first response to me

You just aren't the brightest human, that's the reality here. You have no business even speaking the way you do.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do you dont even know how online discussion works! ROFLMFAO

Being a fool isn't a flex. If you were a man, you'd have just took the L a long time ago, but you just keep doubling down, keep embarrassing yourself and exposing more and more of how mid your brain is.
Wow now you're just copying what I told you. All this talk of being an independent thinker and taking deep thought into posting and all ypu can muster is copy paste what I told you.

I'll take it as a compliment. After all copying is the highest form of flattery.

It is adorable at least

BTW I hope you don't mind me rubbing one out in here. Being rent free in your head is boring since it's so empty.
 
Nope I feel sorry for people who type that much with there thumbs. And if you're doing it on a computer it's even more pathetic.



Yup. You're not one of them. You feel the need to get on your high horse and brag about how great you are and what an "independent outlier of a thinker you are". Imagine thinking that posting that makes you look cool or smart <seedat>


Wrong again. All you did was complain and act self righteous from your first response to me


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do you dont even know how online discussion works! ROFLMFAO


Wow now you're just copying what I told you. All this talk of being an independent thinker and taking deep thought into posting and all ypu can muster is copy paste what I told you.

I'll take it as a compliment. After all copying is the highest form of flattery.

It is adorable at least

BTW I hope you don't mind me rubbing one out in here. Being rent free in your head is boring it's so empty.
This seems to be the only place you're capable of actually arguing.

Another case of a grown man stuck in an arrested state of development, who hasn't changed or grown for 15 years.

Lots of online discussions are chill af. People can be respectful, even if they don't see eye to eye on everything, it doesn't devolve into some petty, immature shit show over nothing. It's easy to agree to disagree, or at least acknowledge where the other person is coming from

That's part of what being a mature adult Is, being able to discuss polarizing, emotionally charged topics and managing to keep the peace. Shit ain't that hard man, but it takes two.

I dont think you made much of an effort to listen and understand any points of view other than your own. You offered no counter arguments whatsoever, contributed nothing to whatever larger points were made.


It seems the only online discussions you've
been involved in have been in call of duty lobbies or some shit


Pretty much immediately you started off on some petty shit, just instigating beef, subtle little digs and shade, so I came back at you with it.

It don't have to be like that tho.

Ultimately, it's just a reflection of how you operate. The way you think, act and carry yourself.

You're a child in a grown man's body. Probably haven't had a proper masculine figure or guidance in your entire life.

Calling me a redditor and acting like you straight from a video game lobby.. lol. Projection is funny as hell.
 
This seems to be the only place you're capable of actually arguing.

Another case of a grown man stuck in an arrested state of development, who hasn't changed or grown for 15 years.

Lots of online discussions are chill af. People can be respectful, even if they don't see eye to eye on everything, it doesn't devolve into some petty, immature shit show over nothing. It's easy to agree to disagree, or at least acknowledge where the other person is coming from

That's part of what being a mature adult Is, being able to discuss polarizing, emotionally charged topics and managing to keep the peace. Shit ain't that hard man, but it takes two.

I dont think you made much of an effort to listen and understand any points of view other than your own. You offered no counter arguments whatsoever, contributed nothing to whatever larger points were made.


It seems the only online discussions you've
been involved in have been in call of duty lobbies or some shit


Pretty much immediately you started off on some petty shit, just instigating beef, subtle little digs and shade, so I came back at you with it.

It don't have to be like that tho.

Ultimately, it's just a reflection of how you operate. The way you think, act and carry yourself.

You're a child in a grown man's body. Probably haven't had a proper masculine figure or guidance in your entire life.

Calling me a redditor and acting like you straight from a video game lobby.. lol. Projection is funny as hell.

Aaahh yeah that felt good. I just needed that response from you to finish off. I won't clean it up cuz at least now there is something other than empty space here in your head.

Your starting to get boring though since you've just resorted to copying what I told you 10 posts back.
 

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