Microsoft acquires Zenimax Entertainment for $7.5 billion

[4daLuLZ]

Oh my sweet summer child...

You’re missing the fact that most mobile and smartphone game sales are $1-2 independent / small company apps with or w/o micro transactions.

AFAIK, the big games and studios haven’t exactly lit the markets up. Games like PUBG etc are the outlier and even they came up outside the big traditional studios.

 

[Dizzy]

The point is with that zenimax tech that is now Microsoft's, game pass will be on everything. Even if people aren't interested in te6 they may be interested in playing other games on their iphone that wouldn't have been possible without the ms acquisition...

I’m not seeing it. These aren’t pick up and play titles like appeal to people who play mobile titles.

You gonna carry around a controller in your pocket?

Don’t see it being anything close to mainstream.

 

[LuchaBear]

You’re missing the fact that most mobile and smartphone game sales are $1-2 independent / small company apps with or w/o micro transactions.

AFAIK, the big games and studios haven’t exactly lit the markets up. Games like PUBG etc are the outlier and even they came up outside the big traditional studios.

And you're missing the fact that the long term goal of Microsoft getting everyone on to Game Pass is by using just about any device possible. Microsoft doesn't need short term profits from selling their games on the PS5, that's only going to hinder their goal.

You're in for a rude awakening if you're hoping to play the next Elder Scrolls or Doom on PS5.

 

[mixmastermo]

I’m not seeing it. These aren’t pick up and play titles like appeal to people who play mobile titles.

You gonna carry around a controller in your pocket?

Don’t see it being anything close to mainstream.

But... Mobile gaming is already mainstream...

The new tech could theoretically put graphically intensive games on any device.. not just bethesda games. The tech isn't exclusive to Bethesda games

 

[Dizzy]

But... Mobile gaming is already mainstream...

The new tech could theoretically put graphically intensive games on any device.. not just bethesda games. The tech isn't exclusive to Bethesda games

Playing titles as advanced as TES6 or Doom Eternal on a phone is not mainstream.

Who is even going to attempt to play those with touch controls?

 

[4daLuLZ]

And you're missing the fact that the long term goal of Microsoft getting everyone on to Game Pass is by using just about any device possible. Microsoft doesn't need short term profits from selling their games on the PS5, that's only going to hinder their goal.

You're in for a rude awakening if you're hoping to play the next Elder Scrolls or Doom on PS5.

That’s not at all what my post says or implies.

 

[Dizzy]

It’s all about turning Gamepass into Netflix for gaming . Look at the install base for Bethesda IPs and EA IPs and figure how many more gamers will gladly pay for gamepass instead of $70. They’ll make their money back within 3 years easy.

I think the bigger thing to watch is Luna causing MS to buy up more studios and making more IPs exclusive/timed exclusive

You don’t become the Netflix of gaming by walling off the majority of customers.

Netflix doesn’t cost a minimum of $300 to get access to. They’re available on every and any device and it’s the only reason they’re sustainable.

 

[Deadwing88]

And you're missing the fact that the long term goal of Microsoft getting everyone on to Game Pass is by using just about any device possible. Microsoft doesn't need short term profits from selling their games on the PS5, that's only going to hinder their goal.

You're in for a rude awakening if you're hoping to play the next Elder Scrolls or Doom on PS5.

Mostly AA games......every first party MS exclusive.....you mean HALO, Gears of War, Forza and it’s umpteen editions.

{<pa}

And like I said in an earlier post, I don’t know how viable it’ll remain for 3rd party developers to constantly forgo the 60-70 bucks of direct sales in favour of Xbox’s subscriptions.
Netflix of gaming.....u have to remember that Avengers, Black Panther and other blockbusters don’t show up till a few years in. There’s a reason why.
GamePass will or has already started the death spiral of not generating enough income for the developer's AAA games and instead be populated with low spec / old games or they will have to jack up their subscription price.

@4daLuLZ takes on gamepass always age well..

 

[Madmick]

I think Microsoft is kind of feeling it out, charitably speaking, or not clear in its business direction, at worst.
It’s either GamePass full throttle which means open it up to any and everybody or go console.
I have a gut feeling that this might be a last big push towards console hardware and if this gen fails to Sony / Nintendo they’re going to pivot hard towards GP and software towards PC / other consoles / mobile. Doesn’t mean they’ll give up completely on console though.
Oh and heads will definitely roll.

Game Pass has never been about a "full throttle" strategy that "opens it up to any and everybody". The service is exclusive to Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Xbox.

You misunderstand the nature of that service. They're willing to open it up to Sony's games if Sony would desire to monetize their games on Microsoft's platform. That would open up Sony games to a much larger user base. Sony doesn't because they calculate this will cost them console sales, and ultimately a larger customer base buying software-- theirs or others-- on a market they control. They'd rather control the market where they command a larger share of revenue.

For the same reason, Microsoft would maintain a Game Pass exclusive wall against Sony, Nintendo, and other competitors by locking those marketplaces out.

 

[LuchaBear]

That’s not at all what my post says or implies.

 

[4daLuLZ]

@4daLuLZ takes on gamepass always age well..

Oh look somebody counting his chickens before his eggs hatched !
How many blockbusters or must haves has this deal bought on GamePass so far ?

Yeah that’s what I thought.

I'll be playing those big AAAs from Sony now whilst you’ll be twisting in the wind and pining by the door waiting for Craig and his homies to swing by.

 

[4daLuLZ]

Game Pass has never been about a "full throttle" strategy that "opens it up to any and everybody". The service is exclusive to Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Xbox.

You misunderstand the nature of that service. They're willing to open it up to Sony's games if Sony would desire to monetize their games on Microsoft's platform. That would open up Sony games to a much larger user base. Sony doesn't because they calculate this will cost them console sales, and ultimately a larger customer base buying software-- theirs or others-- on a market they control. They'd rather control the market where they command a larger share of revenue.

For the same reason, Microsoft would maintain a Game Pass exclusive wall against Sony, Nintendo, and other competitors by locking those marketplaces out.

I know. What I’m saying is if this gen of console hardware doesn’t perform, you could see it abandoned in favour of the pure subscription model and yes, that would mean GP on Sony, Nintendo or whoever.

Remember that Netflix started out as a hardware model too.

 

[4daLuLZ]

^never gets old.

 

[HereticBD]

"In terms of other platforms we'll take it on a case by case basis but as the Xbox community, what they should feel is a huge investment in the experience they're going to have in the Xbox ecosystem, and we want the Xbox ecosystem to be the absolute best place to play and we think game availability is absolutely part of that."

That quote is the clearest indication yet from Spencer that the major IP's will be exclusive..

@Dizzy is coping, and this thread will be a great shrine to his idiocy.

The idea behind these major acquisitions is to not keep things the status quo, but to give MS an edge. Anyone with a brain can see that.

 

[Deadwing88]

Oh look somebody counting his chickens before his eggs hatched !
How many blockbusters or must haves has this deal bought on GamePass so far ?

Yeah that’s what I thought.

I'll be playing those big AAAs from Sony now whilst you’ll be twisting in the wind and pining by the door waiting for Craig and his homies to swing by.

The acquisition has only been recently confirmed for 3-4 days.. so your question to what blockbusters this deal has brought to gamepass, is incredibly premature..

Your claim, within the post you have since deleted ( wonder why lol), suggested that gamepass has entered a death spiral where low spec or old games will litter the subscription.. this in one single acquisition has been proven false. Starfield, Elder Scrolls, Fallout IP, Doom IP, Quake IP, Wolfenstein, Dishonoured etc etc.. will be day one on gamepass and will likely never make it to the PS5.

That's not to mention Xbox's other 15 studios.

 

[4daLuLZ]

The acquisition has only been recently confirmed for 3-4 days.. so your question to what blockbusters this deal has brought to gamepass, is incredibly premature..

Then so is your gloating.
Let me know when this yields a game worth giving a shit.

#craigbless

 

[Deadwing88]

Then so is your gloating.
Let me know when this yields a game worth giving a shit.

#craigbless

I'm not gloating about anything.. your previous post, which you deleted, has already been proven inherently wrong. lol.

Only pointing that out.

 

[4daLuLZ]

I'm not gloating about anything.. your previous post, which you deleted, has already been proven inherently wrong. lol.

Only pointing that out.

Dafuq is wrong with you ?
What deleted post ???

Fact is GP is losing money. My post, you’re referring, said that GP's model is inherently unstable. Soon they’ll be either they’ll be haemorrhaging money or lose AAA titles or will be jacking up the prices. Most likely a mix of the last two.
That’s not the same as GP's finished.
Less video games and more reading comprehension classes, my friend.

Fact is there’s no games from this deal that’s showing up on GP tomorrow.
Fact is, their games are still being released multi platform.
Fact is they still haven’t said jack that all their games are going to be exclusive to GP.
Fact is that now and in the immediate future at least, Sony's got the games.

 

[Dizzy]

@Dizzy is coping, and this thread will be a great shrine to his idiocy.

The idea behind these major acquisitions is to not keep things the status quo, but to give MS an edge. Anyone with a brain can see that.

Imagine thinking you’re going to recoup an $8 billion investment by dragging over a few PlayStation owners and hoping they sub to GamePass which is currently not profitable.

 

[HereticBD]

Imagine thinking you’re going to recoup an $8 billion investment by dragging over a few PlayStation owners and hoping they sub to GamePass which is currently not profitable.

Imagine coping this hard.

I look forward to your future meltdowns over the obvious.