Measles outbreak in Gaines county, Texas.

[Sinister]

RFK will soon make his preferred line of essential oils affordable to all.

 

[Cajun]

Gee, that's not transparent at all. Just honest journalism.

What ARE you getting at haha?

 

[Madmick]

LOL Not you, I meant the author. There are small measles outbreaks every year, they happen all over the US. A lot of these articles started popping up after covid, pushing vaccinations of all sorts because the word had sort of developed a negative meaning among some people. Best I can tell, most people are still getting their kids their basic vaccinations, same as they have for years. The measles shot isn't 100% foolproof, so these little outbreaks can happen anywhere.

Measles Cases and Outbreaks

Find the latest numbers of confirmed U.S. measles cases. CDC updates this page weekly.

www.cdc.gov

Measles was officially eliminated from the United States in 2000, meaning there is no measles spreading within the country and new cases are only found when someone contracts measles abroad and returns to the country. Achieving measles elimination status in the United States was a historic public health achievement. The below figure illustrates how common measles was before vaccines and how vaccine policy enabled elimination.

†Elimination is defined as the absence of endemic measles transmission in a region for ≥ 12 months in the presence of a well-performing surveillance system.

More and more parents aren't getting their children vaccines, and that's why we're seeing an increased frequency of those unsustained "small outbreaks" across the country in recent years, perhaps most notably in small rural educational districts.

This chart from one Illinois county pretty much sums up where the anti-vaccination ignorance is taking us in the context of vaccine history:

Or as these "small outbreaks" sum up in recent years:

Measles Outbreaks, Vaccine Hesitancy, and Federal Policy Options

As of May 31, 2019, 981 cases of measles across 26 U.S. states have been reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention...

www.everycrsreport.com

2024 has been the worst year since 2019. We're barely hanging onto herd immunity.

CDC reports that in 2017, about 91.5% of children aged 19-35 months had received at least one dose of MMR vaccine. Although this coverage seems high, measles is so highly contagious that it may not be sufficient to prevent spread of the disease. A recent model determined that 93%-95% of the population must be vaccinated to prevent measles transmission. This level of immunization in the population would be needed to protect those who cannot be vaccinated (i.e., herd immunity).

That number should be ~99.8% (because there are a tiny number of cases where exception make sense). Not 91.5%. It's idiocy.

 

[chardog]

The measles out breaks has been reported before covid

Low key advertising each time. Measles is treatable and goes away, let’s say it was a vaccine for pneumonia…… hell of a different story, and why don’t we have one for the most lethal infections? Different diseases blah blah, it’s fear mongering nonsense. We probably have single digit fatalities from measles, probably millions of unvaccinated folks in America.

Get our vax, don’t step out of line
-Pfizer probably

 

[Osculater]

Low key advertising each time. Measles is treatable and goes away, let’s say it was a vaccine for pneumonia…… hell of a different story, and why don’t we have one for the most lethal infections? Different diseases blah blah, it’s fear mongering nonsense. We probably have single digit fatalities from measles, probably millions of unvaccinated folks in America.

Get our vax, don’t step out of line
-Pfizer probably

That's ridiculous but that's what you believe then oh well

 

[Osculater]

RFK will soon make his preferred line of essential oils affordable to all.

I'm on the ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, bleach, and methylene blue cocktail

 

[Madmick]

Low key advertising each time. Measles is treatable and goes away, let’s say it was a vaccine for pneumonia…… hell of a different story, and why don’t we have one for the most lethal infections? Different diseases blah blah, it’s fear mongering nonsense. We probably have single digit fatalities from measles, probably millions of unvaccinated folks in America.

Get our vax, don’t step out of line
-Pfizer probably

Because of vaccines!!

Truly, this is some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen you post. It's appallingly stupid.

A vaccine became available in 1963. In the decade before, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years old. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Among reported measles cases each year, an estimated:

• 400 to 500 people died
• 48,000 were hospitalized
• 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain)

 

[aitkenmike]

MMR does not cause epilepsy.

Dude, it’s only about 5000 kids a year that have MMR induced seizure, and only a few hundred of those who will develop epilepsy (in the US alone). It’s worth sacrificing them so that malnourished kids don’t get sick from measles.

 

[aitkenmike]

Because of vaccines!!

Truly, this is some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen you post. It's appallingly stupid.

Only a fraction of a percent of people who jump out of planes are injured or die. Parachutes are just a conspiracy to fund big nylon.

 

[jefferz]

Low key advertising each time. Measles is treatable and goes away, let’s say it was a vaccine for pneumonia…… hell of a different story, and why don’t we have one for the most lethal infections? Different diseases blah blah, it’s fear mongering nonsense. We probably have single digit fatalities from measles, probably millions of unvaccinated folks in America.

Get our vax, don’t step out of line
-Pfizer probably

Pneumonia isn't a virus like measles, you dolt. Pneumonia is a condition that can be caused by a bunch of different stuff, like bacteria and viruses.
One of those bacteria, streptococcus pneumoniae, accounts for almost 50% of all pneumonia cases. And guess what, there is a vaccine for it.

There is no treatment that targets the measles virus. The only thing you get is tylenol to help alleviate the symptoms.

 

[mjmj]

Measles Cases and Outbreaks

Find the latest numbers of confirmed U.S. measles cases. CDC updates this page weekly.

www.cdc.gov

More and more parents aren't getting their children vaccines, and that's why we're seeing an increased frequency of those unsustained "small outbreaks" across the country in recent years, perhaps most notably in small rural educational districts.

This chart from one Illinois county pretty much sums up where the anti-vaccination ignorance is taking us in the context of vaccine history:

Or as these "small outbreaks" sum up in recent years:

Measles Outbreaks, Vaccine Hesitancy, and Federal Policy Options

As of May 31, 2019, 981 cases of measles across 26 U.S. states have been reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention...

www.everycrsreport.com

2024 has been the worst year since 2019. We're barely hanging onto herd immunity.


That number should be ~99.8% (because there are a tiny number of cases where exception make sense). Not 91.5%. It's idiocy.

You spent a lot of time on data that has nothing to do with the original story. Also nothing to do with my point. I’m not disputing any of what you’re saying, in any way.

 

[Andy Capp]

You spent a lot of time on data that has nothing to do with the original story. Also nothing to do with my point. I’m not disputing any of what you’re saying, in any way.

Except you contradicted it earlier in the thread.

You claimed vaccination rates are unchanged and people are making a bigger deal out of an odd cluster of cases here and there than they used to for no good reason.

Gee, that's not transparent at all. Just honest journalism.

What are you implying here if not to say that it's a tempest in a tea pot? And then you go on to be explicit about your dismissal of the issue,

LOL Not you, I meant the author. There are small measles outbreaks every year, they happen all over the US. A lot of these articles started popping up after covid, pushing vaccinations of all sorts because the word had sort of developed a negative meaning among some people. Best I can tell, most people are still getting their kids their basic vaccinations, same as they have for years. The measles shot isn't 100% foolproof, so these little outbreaks can happen anywhere.

The info posted by @Madmick shows spikes in cases due to lower vaccination rates, doesn't it?

 

[pugilistico]

Is American turning into a third world country?

 

[jefferz]

Is American turning into a third world country?

Republicans are trying, and they're putting in a good effort.

 

[PhitePhan]

MMR does not cause epilepsy.

The odds of developing epilepsy are increased in those who have even one seizure. Increase seizures from MMR = increase epilepsy from MMR.

“Furthermore, a large 2004 Danish epidemiological study published in JAMA found that the risk of febrile seizures after MMR vaccination is 1 in 640[4] —a five-fold higher risk of febrile seizure than the risk of seizure from measles.[5]

Re: The unofficial vaccine educators: are CDC funded non-profits sufficiently independent?

www.bmj.com

“Our study revealed that the incidence of subsequent epilepsy after febrile seizures was 10% in individuals that had febrile seizures. This is similar to the results in a prospective cohort study by Neligan et al.13), which demonstrated that the risk of developing epilepsy following febrile seizures was 2%–10%.”

Epilepsy in children with a history of febrile seizures - PMC

Febrile seizure, the most common type of pediatric convulsive disorder, is a benign seizure syndrome distinct from epilepsy. However, as epilepsy is also common during childhood, we aimed to identify the prognostic factors that can predict epilepsy ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

We still don’t know what “causes” epilepsy in healthy kids, but we DO know that even one febrile seizure increases the risk for epilepsy.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

In a nutshell

That analogy would work if it was an untested experimental seatbelt that malfunctioned and cut their head off.

 

[Rob Battisti]

*methylene blue

What’s wrong with methylene blue? It’s pretty well studied at this point and has shown a lot of positive effects.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Sure, it’s just that now these small localized cases get national attention by some networks, with wording that makes me think there's an agenda. Maybe I'm just cynical.

Considering they talked about an outbreak of 60 in Chicago but chose to focus on the vaccination rates in Texas over an outbreak of 10, while not confirming these cases were in that cohort… makes you wonder.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

The ideological inconsistency is you say if you don't get your kid vaccinated and they get sick - that's abuse

But then if you do get them vaccinated and they get vaccine injured - that isn't abuse.

There's no ideological consistency there. It's purely ideology driven.

It would depend on the odds wouldn't it?

If a vaccine had a 0.01% of a complication for a disease with a 5% chance of a complication (obviously hypothetical numbers) then that would be unacceptable risk from the parent imo.

 

[Cajun]

There are medical reasons some people are exempted from vaccines. Also sounds like this is no danger to people who got vaccinated so what's the issue? The measles vaccine actually works unlike the covid vaccine.

Are you an anti-kids vaxxer? This county is in a weird area at the Texas-New Mexico border. It's either going to be anti-vaxxers like the California type against kids vaccines or it's illegals how are just poor and never vaccinated. Either way, it's an issue bruh. We don't want it.