Measles outbreak in Gaines county, Texas.

[Deleted member 592570]

I consider the parents not vaccinating their children for reasons other than health exemptions child abusers. Which they are.

Any evidence that's what happened here?

If you got your kid vaccinated and they got vaccine injured, is that child abuse too?

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Antivaxxers were a big thing even before COVID. It just got bigger after it.

It was largely a left wing thing before covid so you didn't hear about it as much.

 

[Crazy Source]

Any evidence that's what happened here?

If you got your kid vaccinated and they got vaccine injured, is that child abuse too?

It's an area with very high opt-out rates and all the children were unvaccinated. 22 kids and 2 adults. No way they all had legit medical reasons to not take the vaccine. And no, it isn't. It's a proven, safe vaccine.

 

[Crazy Source]

It was largely a left wing thing before covid so you didn't hear about it as much.

And those lefties are idiots as well.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

And no, it isn't. It's a proven, safe vaccine.

So no ideological consistency. Got it.

 

[Crazy Source]

So no ideological consistency. Got it.

It's science and odds, brother. My ideology has nothing to do with it.

 

[PeterGriffin]

Any evidence that's what happened here?

If you got your kid vaccinated and they got vaccine injured, is that child abuse too?

Would your roll the dice on your child's health and well-being over the MMR vaccine?

 

[Crazy Source]

@ColemanwastheGOAT I read a story about a young girl that died of cancer. Her parents were "Christian Scientists". They don't believe in manmade medicine, so they refused treatment for their daughter. Chemo can kill you, and certainly could a child. That argument could be made in court. Do you think these parents were guilty of child abuse?

 

[Osculater]

Would your roll the dice on your child's health and well-being over the MMR vaccine?

Naw man they have too many side effects or something bad

 

[Osculater]

@ColemanwastheGOAT I read a story about a young girl that died of cancer. Her parents were "Christian Scientists". They don't believe in manmade medicine, so they refused treatment for their daughter. Chemo can kill you, and certainly could a child. That argument could be made in court. Do you think these parents were guilty of child abuse?

He's going to troll you

 

[Deleted member 592570]

It's science and odds, brother. My ideology has nothing to do with it.

The ideological inconsistency is you say if you don't get your kid vaccinated and they get sick - that's abuse

But then if you do get them vaccinated and they get vaccine injured - that isn't abuse.

There's no ideological consistency there. It's purely ideology driven.

 

[Crazy Source]

The ideological inconsistency is you say if you don't get your kid vaccinated and they get sick - that's abuse

But then if you do get them vaccinated and they get vaccine injured - that isn't abuse.

There's no ideological consistency there. It's purely ideology driven.

Nope. Giving your child the MMR vaccine makes them much, much safer. It also, through herd immunity, makes those that can't take the vaccine safer. The chance of harm from the vaccine is incredibly minute. Science in guiding me here. Why would I want to punish someone for giving their child something that makes them safer? Does that make sense to you?

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Nope. Giving your child the MMR vaccine makes them much, much safer.

Not if they get vaccine injured.

Again, you're not addressing the ideological angle at all.

 

[Crazy Source]

Not if they get vaccine injured.

Again, you're not addressing the ideological angle at all.

I would not want to punish a parent for doing something that statistically makes their child safer, regardless of the outcome. I would, however, consider punishing a parent that makes a decision to make their child less safe and that child suffers injury. I'm not going to state it again. That's as clear as it gets.

 

[PhitePhan]

It's science and odds, brother. My ideology has nothing to do with it.

The actual science tells us the “safe” part of “safe and effective” mostly marketing.

Authors' conclusions: The design and reporting of safety outcomes in MMR vaccine studies, both pre- and post-marketing, are largely inadequate. The evidence of adverse events following immunisation with the MMR vaccine cannot be separated from its role in preventing the target diseases.

Vaccines for measles, mumps and rubella in children - PubMed

The design and reporting of safety outcomes in MMR vaccine studies, both pre- and post-marketing, are largely inadequate. The evidence of adverse events following immunisation with the MMR vaccine cannot be separated from its role in preventing the target diseases.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[PhitePhan]

Not if they get vaccine injured.

Again, you're not addressing the ideological angle at all.

Dude, it’s only about 5000 kids a year that have MMR induced seizure, and only a few hundred of those who will develop epilepsy (in the US alone). It’s worth sacrificing them so that malnourished kids don’t get sick from measles.

 

[GSP_37]

I saw from a very credible DVD you just put some Robitussin on it.

 

[jefferz]

Got ya. Seems like this outbreak may have been because of unvaccinated kids, though. Do you consider that a "basic" vaccine?

There's a big Mennonite colony in that area. I'm willing to bet most of the cases are coming from that colony.

 

[DoctorTaco]

@Crazy Source :
I think letting your kids ride around without a seat belt on is child abuse.

If you got into a car accident and the seat belt injured the kid, is that still child abuse?!”

In a nutshell

 

[ShadowRun]

People care about vaccines unless you’re an illegal immigrate , then it’s ok not to have any…..