Law Matt Gaetz to become Attorney General

[filthybliss]

Too bad they didnt feel as strongly about oligarchy.

I don’t think they’d be approving of Welfare Queen Elon calling the shots as an unelected official.

I don't think that secularism can even begin to produce the kind of joy and love that religion can. In fact, there is no philosopher I've ever read or been exposed to who even has a solid portion of what Christianity can produce in a human being.

The problem with secular thought is they stop completely in the material and have no range no grasp and no access to the much vaster infinite spiritual world that authentic religion connects us to.

I would stack the average saints consciousness up against anything the secular world can produce and find the secular world in extreme poverty.

It’s a mixed bag. I can’t relate to what you are talking about on a spiritual level so a lot of that sounds confusing to me.

But as the great Richard Feynman put it.

“I rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned”



I’m sure that Galileo or any apostate that was subjected to theocratic tyranny would agree with that notion.

 

[Mack Yancy]

Defending what?

You are the one defending Gaetz

Your dubs are gone! Time to offer up that sig. Can your edit your profile again?

 

[Sinister]

I don’t think they’d be approving of Welfare Queen Elon calling the shots as an unelected official.


It’s a mixed bag. I can’t relate to what you are talking about on a spiritual level so a lot of that sounds confusing to me.

But as the great Richard Feynman put it.

“I rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned”



I’m sure that Galileo or any apostate that was subjected to theocratic tyranny would agree with that notion.

Hamilton would have been.

 

[Helden]

Your dubs are gone! Time to offer up that sig. Can your edit your profile again?

Sure

 

[Mack Yancy]

Sure

"Mack Yancy is my daddy and I love daddy's content, I complain about his threads but I will always post in them, just like everyone else."

 

[Helden]

"Mack Yancy is my daddy and I love daddy's content, I complain about his threads but I will always post in them, just like everyone else."

Some real insecurities huh?

 

[Mack Yancy]

Some real insecurities huh?

You lost the sig bet, deal with it.

 

[Helden]

You lost the sig bet, deal with it.

just saying you seem desperate for validation, thats all.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I thought no one is above the law ? Investigation were squashed , even the whistle blowers said that . And a 10 year back dated pardon ? lol it’s not the same . You’re better off saying both can be guilty and be pos it’s ok to do that

Hunter needed a pardon, let's see if Gaetz will need one too. I'll bet from here though he probably either gets elected again in some MAGA district somewhere or he ends up with a cushy gig like Nunes did working for Trump somewhere.

 

[Mack Yancy]

just saying you seem desperate for validation, thats all.

Just edit the sig and stop bitching.

 

[Helden]

Just edit the sig and stop bitching.

Sig is edited, you are the one bitching. Must really crave attention.

 

[curryjunkie]

Me. And apparently it’s expensive as hell, so I’ll take Apple Pay or zelle.

Google told me:

Steps to Becoming a Saint:

Being named a saint in the Catholic Church is a very high honor. It means the saint’s name is added to the official catalogue of saints, and that Masses and feast days can be celebrated in his or her honor. Churches can then be dedicated in the saint’s memory, and his or her name can be used in public prayers, such as litanies. What does it take for someone to be named a saint? The process is called canonization and it involves 4 major steps.

Request For Canonization
1At least five years after a person’s death (unless a special exception is made by the pope), a formal request is made to consider
him or her for sainthood. The people making the request are usually from the candidate’s church or religious community. They submit their request to the bishop of the diocese where the person died. The request tells how the person lived a life of holiness and lists reasons for considering the candidate
for sainthood. If the bishop believes there is enough evidence to consider the person for sainthood, he asks the Vatican for permission to open a special tribunal. Witnesses are then called to attest to the candidate’s goodness, holiness, devotion to God, and other virtues. If a person passes this step, he or she is named a “Servant of God.”

Determination
2 The bishop sends a formal report and request to Rome where it is reviewed by the Congregation for the Causes of the Saints. Nine theologians read the material and
determine whether there is enough cause to pass it to the entire Congregation. If so, the candidate’s writings and other aspects of his or her life are studied to make sure there is nothing that goes against the teachings and practices of the Church. As part of this investigation a person called a “devil’s advocate” raises questions and objections to the candidate’s sainthood. This is to make
sure the final decision is complete and fair, and all evidence of the candidate’s saintliness is assured. Once a candidate has been determined to be virtuous and heroic in his or her faith, he or she is declared “Venerable.”


Beatification
3 The next step is beatification. If the candidate was a martyr, someone who died for their faith, he or she may be beatified and named “Blessed.” Otherwise, a miracle
brought about by the intercession of the saint must occur and be verified by the Congregation. Once the person is beatified and named “Blessed,” he or she can be venerated, or officially honored, in his or her city, diocese, region, or religious community. Canonization


4 After being beatified, another miracle is required for the person to be canonized and officially declared a saint. Once again, the miracle must have occurred as a result of
the person’s intercession. The Prefect of the Congregation then sends the cause for canonization to the pope who makes the final decision. Once a person is canonized, he or she is officially declared a “Saint.” The pope declares this in an official way at a special Mass in honor of the new saint.

I read an article about that process a while back, apparently the proposed saints supporters have to raise lots of money because the panels and investigators need to be paid, it can cost thousands of dollars, or probably euros in this case. Same ol rackets they been operating since medieval times, now, where did I put st finians finger bones?

 

[Andy Capp]

But you are lying here. Why do that?

Are you saying every saint named was named by a phile? All through history?


That laughably insincere even for you.....


The problem here is you don't know anything about spirituality and so cannot conceive of the authenticity of the experience.

I literally lol'd @ your first and third sentences. Please read what follows carefully. I won't be discussing this topic with you any further and I'd like it to have been worth my time to write it.

Your logic is poor--seemingly on purpose; you're the one being laughably insincere. I believe you are able to understand what intermingled means. It does not mean what you say in your second sentence, does it? Who is lying here if not you?

You know nothing about me, nor my spirituality, nor lack of it, as the case may be. You saying otherwise doesn't make it so. I was raised in the Catholic Church and I have read the KJV from cover to cover, so I have a certain familiarity with the respective traditions. Your emotional and dismissive presumptuousness when it comes to people who challenge your pronouncements is pure projection. You want to stand out as the Special One Who Walks With God and it just makes you look desperate for attention, honestly.

I don't think a person necessarily needs to belong to a specific organised religion to engage with the universe spiritually--though many need guidance. I feel I'm quite a spiritual person, in fact. Either that, or I am just extraordinarily fortunate (or both). I think it's better my way because no one is asking you to donate money to the church of your own mind.

On a slightly related topic, have you ever heard about the first use of the printing press after its invention?

I presume you've heard of indulgences, right? What a great money maker it was for the church, wasn't it? Step right up, forgiveness of sins--just pay a fee and we give you a piece of paper saying you're off the hook.

Catholicism has never been free of corruption. It does not follow that all Catholics are corrupt nor is anyone claiming that here. Every religion is populated by people who are good and people who are bad, often both depending upon the day, because they're humans. The difference in the case of the abuse scandal is people knew about it all the way to the top (whether they themselves engaged in it) but failed to act on it in any way, while many of those people were deemed worthy to decide upon the merits of saints. Let me repeat: there were people who knew what was going on but were not involved themselves yet they chose to do nothing.

You can believe however strongly you want that Christianity is the only right answer if you want but you are sinning against your own beliefs acting like it's bad or crazy for other people to believe differently from you.

 

[Mack Yancy]

Sig is edited, you are the one bitching. Must really crave attention.

I can't see it, your sig is showing blank.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Absolutely

And yet you’re fine with it. Fucking underage kids is funny to you because it upsets the libs.

Wow, you’re a fucking psycho.

 

[Andy Capp]

I'm pretty sure that saints are required to have performed what is deemed a miracle.

I've also never heard of "sainthood" in Judaism.

Two miracles in fact--unless you're also a martyr.

To wit,

Me. And apparently it’s expensive as hell, so I’ll take Apple Pay or zelle.

Google told me:

Steps to Becoming a Saint:

Being named a saint in the Catholic Church is a very high honor. It means the saint’s name is added to the official catalogue of saints, and that Masses and feast days can be celebrated in his or her honor. Churches can then be dedicated in the saint’s memory, and his or her name can be used in public prayers, such as litanies. What does it take for someone to be named a saint? The process is called canonization and it involves 4 major steps.

Request For Canonization
1At least five years after a person’s death (unless a special exception is made by the pope), a formal request is made to consider
him or her for sainthood. The people making the request are usually from the candidate’s church or religious community. They submit their request to the bishop of the diocese where the person died. The request tells how the person lived a life of holiness and lists reasons for considering the candidate
for sainthood. If the bishop believes there is enough evidence to consider the person for sainthood, he asks the Vatican for permission to open a special tribunal. Witnesses are then called to attest to the candidate’s goodness, holiness, devotion to God, and other virtues. If a person passes this step, he or she is named a “Servant of God.”

Determination
2 The bishop sends a formal report and request to Rome where it is reviewed by the Congregation for the Causes of the Saints. Nine theologians read the material and
determine whether there is enough cause to pass it to the entire Congregation. If so, the candidate’s writings and other aspects of his or her life are studied to make sure there is nothing that goes against the teachings and practices of the Church. As part of this investigation a person called a “devil’s advocate” raises questions and objections to the candidate’s sainthood. This is to make
sure the final decision is complete and fair, and all evidence of the candidate’s saintliness is assured. Once a candidate has been determined to be virtuous and heroic in his or her faith, he or she is declared “Venerable.”


Beatification
3 The next step is beatification. If the candidate was a martyr, someone who died for their faith, he or she may be beatified and named “Blessed.” Otherwise, a miracle
brought about by the intercession of the saint must occur and be verified by the Congregation. Once the person is beatified and named “Blessed,” he or she can be venerated, or officially honored, in his or her city, diocese, region, or religious community. Canonization


4 After being beatified, another miracle is required for the person to be canonized and officially declared a saint. Once again, the miracle must have occurred as a result of
the person’s intercession. The Prefect of the Congregation then sends the cause for canonization to the pope who makes the final decision. Once a person is canonized, he or she is officially declared a “Saint.” The pope declares this in an official way at a special Mass in honor of the new saint.

Note that that all the information being used to evaluate if the person is worthy of canonisation is anecdotal and reported by people with a vested interest in the outcome. Makes the idea of "producing saints" a little more interesting, doesn't it?

 

[SKYNET]

And yet you’re fine with it. Fucking underage kids is funny to you because it upsets the libs.
Wow, you’re a fucking psycho.

Who said I was fine with it you fucking imbecile? Fucking psychotic moron

 

[terrapin]

I literally lol'd @ your first and third sentences. Please read what follows carefully. I won't be discussing this topic with you any further and I'd like it to have been worth my time to write it.

Your logic is poor--seemingly on purpose; you're the one being laughably insincere. I believe you are able to understand what intermingled means. It does not mean what you say in your second sentence, does it? Who is lying here if not you?

You know nothing about me, nor my spirituality, nor lack of it, as the case may be. You saying otherwise doesn't make it so. I was raised in the Catholic Church and I have read the KJV from cover to cover, so I have a certain familiarity with the respective traditions. Your emotional and dismissive presumptuousness when it comes to people who challenge your pronouncements is pure projection. You want to stand out as the Special One Who Walks With God and it just makes you look desperate for attention, honestly.

I don't think a person necessarily needs to belong to a specific organised religion to engage with the universe spiritually--though many need guidance. I feel I'm quite a spiritual person, in fact. Either that, or I am just extraordinarily fortunate (or both). I think it's better my way because no one is asking you to donate money to the church of your own mind.

On a slightly related topic, have you ever heard about the first use of the printing press after its invention?

I presume you've heard of indulgences, right? What a great money maker it was for the church, wasn't it? Step right up, forgiveness of sins--just pay a fee and we give you a piece of paper saying you're off the hook.

Catholicism has never been free of corruption. It does not follow that all Catholics are corrupt nor is anyone claiming that here. Every religion is populated by people who are good and people who are bad, often both depending upon the day, because they're humans. The difference in the case of the abuse scandal is people knew about it all the way to the top (whether they themselves engaged in it) but failed to act on it in any way, while many of those people were deemed worthy to decide upon the merits of saints. Let me repeat: there were people who knew what was going on but were not involved themselves yet they chose to do nothing.

You can believe however strongly you want that Christianity is the only right answer if you want but you are sinning against your own beliefs acting like it's bad or crazy for other people to believe differently from you.

You have just restarted MY position about philia just less succinctly. I've NEVER defended the Catholic churches actions surrounding the philia. I've condemned it consistently and vehemently since it all came to light.

What I have done is state that that it's not the same people who produce saints who also cover up for philia and that the Catholic church is one of the few organized religions on the planet that can consistently produce saints across every generation. For this, I am vehemently attacked in every roundabout way people can possibly think of because they have only one view of religion and it's only negative in their eyes.


It is no small feat to regularly produce saints across generations .... very few religions or religious leaders ever produce een one saint. to produce saints in every generation requires a profound spirituality and a profound knowledge and a profound wisdom. It has to have been developed and standardized and adapted to different personality types in order to be successful across generations. You have to have a penetrating understanding of humanity, the plight of humanity, and what the solutions are to bring people to profound permanent peace, joy and love.

I don't think there are any psychologists or anything in the secular world that has even began to do this, let alone accomplished it.

I'm not even Catholic by the way so when you say I have a holier than thou attitude, for defending the Catholic Church's ability to produce saints and Jesus 's profound spirituality for starting such a system I think you're projecting because you just stated in your post that you think YOUR WAY is better..

I'm the one you laughed at for showing that many religions have accomplished this that aren't Christian and here you are stating that I think only Christianity is the answer? Do you ever argue in good faith man or are you so poisoned by emotion that you cannot do so?


I doubt you even read that post before you mocked it and laughed at it. I doubt you'll read this one and you'll probably come back with more things to refute what I haven't said of think.



And you think your way is better even though it will never produce a single saint on this planet ever and will be completely forgotten when you're dead.

 

[terrapin]

I don’t think they’d be approving of Welfare Queen Elon calling the shots as an unelected official.


It’s a mixed bag. I can’t relate to what you are talking about on a spiritual level so a lot of that sounds confusing to me.

But as the great Richard Feynman put it.

“I rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned”



I’m sure that Galileo or any apostate that was subjected to theocratic tyranny would agree with that notion.

Well I have some knowledge on this topic man and if it's confusing I could make it simple if you like. And I mean that not condescendingly but I have a gift for taking sophisticated theology and turning it into 8th grade level speech that anyone could understand because I think anybody should be able to understand it.

The criticism that religion provides answers that can't be questioned is pretty narrowinded. I placed it on the same level as the notion that faith is believing without evidence.... I'm talking about sophisticated religion that can produce saints across generations. .

Peace, joy and love that marks the ascent to Union with God. If you do it in order, the first stage is peace and the person coming to a deep permanent level of peace has stopped lying to themselves completely..... Is not in conflict with themselves in any egoic way or with anyone else in an egooc way. That person has faced and resolved every fear and every natural sinful disorder that they were born with or that was hoisted upon them in their upbringing.

The fact is religion... authentic religion at least has enough answers to take a human being from the disordered pile that we all are of train wreck level character defects and sinfulness and slowly but surely detangle all of that and bring that person towards permanent peace, permanent joy and permanent love... not only for one's own friends or for oneself, but for all human beings and all of creation.

There is literally nothing in the secular world that even begins to speak to that.

 

[UberHere]

Have you read ANY commentary on the gospel/letters etc from the early church?

Did Paul not refer to the the church congregations he wrote to as saints? Even the ones he rebuked for doing things unbecoming of a saint? Seems like all you have to do is congregate as a church and you’re a saint. Orgies? Sure you’re still saints, but stop that!