Hapkido is very effective. Whittaker is a testament to that. The gloves make small joint manipulation almost impossible anyway. Gloves make fighting very different compared to no gloves. You can grip better without gloves and you actually need to have conditioned hands and know what soft parts of the body/face to punch in order to be effective in striking bare knuckle.
I haven't heard about that but street fights are very different than sport fighting. I would never ask to get hit first bare knuckle. It doesn't take much with no gloves on with a clean hit. No padding and you will feel bone hit you, hurts and stings way more than strikes with gloves.
This is true sometimes in a street fight you don’t have any space to work with. And the first person to land something substantial usually wins. On the flip side I’ve seen people in “street” fights that take place say at a party outside. Just calmly use distance and then counter with great success.
Also I’m sure all the BJJ fighters would love if their opponent was fighting them wearing a suit with a tie on.
BJJ works but in a street fight you don't really want to be on the floor because of concrete. Just like wrestling you wouldn't shoot in for takedowns with your knees hitting the concrete. You would do everything from standing position instead. Gi work helps for grips on clothing and grip strength. You can grab sleeves, collars, hoods, pants, etc instead of the gi and a lot of it could transfer over technique wise with some adjustments.
I agree never want to be on the ground in a street fight. Also I’m much older now so street fighting is something I steer clear from.
I knew this was coming but it still made me laugh.
Old man Eastwood put in some work in Gran Torino. Well this thread has been amusing. What did we learn “street” fights are very different based on where you live. And everyone agrees it’s vital to stay off the ground in a “street” fight for various logical reasons.
You kind of alluded to the flaw in some TMAs right there. Aikido, kung-fu, hapkido, they work on drunk fools. If you're good enough some techniques work on people with training. But against killers who also have training? Not really. Boxing/kickboxing, muay-thai, BJJ, and wresting -- these are the four pillars of MMA, as most of their techniques work on drunk fools and trained killers alike. TMAs are useful no doubt, and when you supplement them in with the more practical martial arts they can be fun surprise. Some of my fondest memories sparring are times I did something unorthodox and it worked. But that's just because I don't remember the 1000 times that leg kick worked, because that shit is automatic.
I could beat Charlie Zelenoff.
They can be a fun surprise. Exactly. And yeah I agree with the rest of your post.
What you meant to say
I’m gonna bet the house on you in this theoretical fight.
