Social Makeup Artist Deported and Imprisoned Indefinitely Without Charges

[terrapin]

This is pretty sickening, and should be that way to anyone who believes in the constitution. The guy didn't even do anything and is in one of the worst prisons in the world in fucking el salvador, yet some idiots in here just shrug it off.

What's even sicker, are the people saying he'll enjoy being there because he's gay. Like rape is somehow fun if you're gay. Despicable.

Yeah, I'm really experiencing many different levels of disillusionment and coming out of being naive through this Trump presidency.

I used to really resist and push against the idea that there were evil or bad people in the world. But man, Trump is a bad person and these people that are supporting his despicable actions? They're bad people.

I don't know how anyone could hate a gay man enough to want him sent to an El Salvadorian prison for no reason... let alone cheer it on.

 

[Deorum]

I used to really resist and push against the idea that there were evil or bad people in the world. But man, Trump is a bad person and these people that are supporting his despicable actions? They're bad people. I don't know how anyone could hate a gay man enough to want him sent to an El Salvadorian prison for no reason... let alone cheer it on.

There Are.

Stay Armed At All Times.

 

[terrapin]

There Are.

Stay Armed At All Times.

Did I tell you that I got a Benelli M4 man? Pretty freaking amazing shotgun. And the recoil on it is less than my 20 gauge.

Also, I don't want to write an essay, but I have always been prepared for the random evil person. I even have a cane sword that I often take with me in public, but I didn't expect 50% of the country to support a fascist dictator.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Did I tell you that I got a Benelli M4 man? Pretty freaking amazing shotgun. And the recoil on it is less than my 20 gauge.

Also, I don't want to write an essay, but I have always been prepared for the random evil person. I even have a cane sword that I often take with me in public, but I didn't expect 50% of the country to support a fascist dictator.

To be fair Trump didn't even get half the popular vote and I'm sure a non-negligable number of those voters are regretting their choice.

 

[terrapin]

To be fair Trump didn't even get half the popular vote and I'm sure a non-negligable number of those voters are regretting their choice.

That's true and also did you hear any of the reporting on the gerrymandering and how many votes they were able to disqualify? I think Marjorie Taylor Green herself was able to get over 20,000 votes disqualified.

Did you hear any of that??

 

[Islam Imamate]

That's true and also did you hear any of the reporting on the gerrymandering and how many votes they were able to disqualify? I think Marjorie Taylor Green herself was able to get over 20,000 votes disqualified.

Did you hear any of that??

I've vaguely heard of it but haven't looked into it.

 

[Deorum]

Did I tell you that I got a Benelli M4 man? Pretty freaking amazing shotgun. And the recoil on it is less than my 20 gauge.

Also, I don't want to write an essay, but I have always been prepared for the random evil person. I even have a cane sword that I often take with me in public, but I didn't expect 50% of the country to support a fascist dictator.

Oh, hell yeah. That's a world-class semi-auto, and I know you're partial to shotguns (especially for home defense). I never, ever leave with anything less than my Winkler push dagger and G26 if not the 357 Mag (SP101) with a bunch of other fun stuff strapped in the truck. This is so habitual and routine that it requires basically no conscious thought. It'd be a damn shame if I ever had to slash someone's carotid artery or blast their ugly face off, but I'm going to be left the fuck alone and that is a promise.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

So I’ve been following this bizarre and disturbing case and figured I’d ask here in case anyone has dug deeper or found more recent updates.

The guy’s name is Andry Hernández Romero, a gay Venezuelan makeup artist who came to the U.S. last year seeking asylum. He said he fled because of threats from gangs and homophobic violence in his home country. No criminal record, passed his credible fear interview, and was legally in the U.S. while pursuing asylum.

Then out of nowhere, the Trump administration used the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to deport him. They said he was part of a gang—Tren de Aragua—based solely on two tattoos: crowns over the words “Mom” and “Dad.” No arrests, no gang charges, no priors. Just tattoos. But those tattoos are apparently common in his hometown, part of their Three Kings Day celebration.

He was deported directly to CECOT, El Salvador’s supermax prison that’s housing gang members under Bukele’s crackdown. No trial, no conviction, no charges in either country. Now he’s stuck in that prison system, and as far as I can tell, he’s never even been sentenced or formally charged with anything.

His lawyers are pushing for his return. Gavin Newsom and Rep. Robert Garcia have both demanded answers. Even gang experts say Tren de Aragua doesn’t use tattoos as identifiers. The gang “evidence” came from a CoreCivic contractor who used to be a cop and got fired for misconduct.

So my question is:

• Has any new information come out that credibly connects him to gang activity?
• Has there been any movement on bringing him back to the U.S. or at least getting him out of prison?
• And does anyone know if the Trump admin is going to reverse or review these deportations under the Alien Enemies Act?

This feels like a due process nightmare and I’m just trying to get a clear picture. Appreciate any insights or links.

I don't feel like the guy should be in CECOT, but his mother said he left for better opportunities and to help (financially) the family - not fleeing violence and persecution.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

People keep asking why his being gay is relevant. I think that in this case it IS actually relevant. Gay men are in a precarious position in prison. In a US medium the second the other inmates get a whiff someone is gay, some of them will try to get the gay guy to be their bitch, usually with gifts (and expectation of return.) Gay guy will need someone to guard him in the showers as well. Then when you get into max security prisons, straight up rape can happen if a group of guys, many of which will never see the light of day again, realize someone is gay or they figure he's gay because they think he's effeminate / weak / a good target. I don't know what El Salvador prisons are like but I'm guessing it's like a max security on steroids. A gay guy there that isn't a hardened criminal is in such danger there, it's crazy. You can't feed someone to the wolves like that. Even if it turns out he did something or other, the min / med / max separations exist for a reason.

I would assume rape is rare in South American prisons; do to cultural taboos, but violence against gays is probably higher.

 

[helltoupee]

Dunno, the other guy they were calling a "totally innocent Maryland father" turned out to be a gang member who beat the shit out of his wife several times pretty recently, so their "innocent" is about reliable as the "mostly peaceful" riots with dozens of murders.

And he's gay, so he could be loving it in prison.

He's a Gay man locked in a prison with thousands of muscular, tattooed, sweaty men with shaved heads who haven't had sex with a woman in a very long time.

Are you sure he wants to come back to the US?

I guess women don't mind being raped because they have sex with their husbands all the time!

Ya, and the ni**ers didn't mind working in the fields because their skin doesn't burn, and the Jews didn't mind being gassed because their big noses could take in extra oxygen despite the gas, and, and, the gays, they don't mind being raped, because they're gay!

You ARE the 1930's German who 'didn't mind that their neighbor was taken, held without due process, and then thrown out with the garbage'.

Jesus FN Christ. I'm starting to feel embarrassed for even belonging to these forums. How is it possible that you guys can write messages on a computer? I'm literally surprised that you can even dress yourself.

 

[terrapin]

I've vaguely heard of it but haven't looked into it.

You should check into it. I don't know why it didn't gain more traction. Through legal but dishonest means the Republicans were able to get hundreds of thousands of votes disqualified.

It is very, very much worth looking into man. I know breaking points did a whole segment on it where they let the guy explain all of the data for like 40 minutes.

Marjorie Taylor Green used a KKK tactic that was used back in the day to call into question a person's name. So if a guy's name is George Brown and there's two George Browns that vote they would challenge and say someone voted twice and that was enough to get the vote off the record.

Using this tactic but computerized and using common black or hispanic names, Marjorie Taylor Green was able to get over 20,000 votes disqualified.

But there are a number of other tactics that are used and this guy brings the receipts. It's actually pretty staggering.

 

[helltoupee]

I don't feel like the guy should be in CECOT, but his mother said he left for better opportunities and to help (financially) the family - not fleeing violence and persecution.

Oh my god. What a horrible person. They should just send him to the gas changer. Trying to feed his family? What the hell is that anyways. No possible way you or I would search for better opportunities after another country walked in and completely fucked my country up in the name of capitalism. You and me would just eat shit and call it a day. No-sir-ee.

 

[terrapin]

I guess women don't mind being raped because they have sex with their husbands all the time!

Ya, and the ni**ers didn't mind working in the fields because their skin doesn't burn, and the Jews didn't mind being gassed because their big noses could take in extra oxygen despite the gas, and, and, the gays, they don't mind being raped, because they're gay!

You ARE the 1930's German who 'didn't mind that their neighbor was taken, held without due process, and then thrown out with the garbage'.

This is all true man. I don't even respond to many of them anymore. They have shown us who they are. It's clear now.

 

[helltoupee]

This is all true man. I don't even respond to many of them anymore. They have shown us who they are. It's clear now.

In my last logon to Sherdog, oldshadow makes 2 posts about Chinese people that was blatantly racist. And in this thread there are clowns actually laughing about someone being raped - which is pretty much a guarantee of what this guy is going through.

All the supposed experts in here saying "someone will make him his bitch". Bullshit. Ain't nobody having a "girl" in that dorm environment. There's a 99.99% chance that he's being held down by 5 other guys and gang raped. Repeatedly.

And it was also mentioned that the guards will be watching constantly. Ya right. Don't let TV shows fool you. Nobody is paying attention to 100 people in a cell with that level of detail like they do when the cameras are on. There's a reason only a few journalists have ever been allowed access to CECOT. Because abuses happen all day long.

And here's the sickening part. This guy has just as high of chance of being raped by the guards as he does the prisoners. In fact, if I were to bet, I would say he's going to be abused by both.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Oh my god. What a horrible person. They should just send him to the gas changer. Trying to feed his family? What the hell is that anyways. No possible way you or I would search for better opportunities after another country walked in and completely fucked my country up in the name of capitalism. You and me would just eat shit and call it a day. No-sir-ee.

I've said numerous times that I would come here as well.

I was just pointing out that his asylum application would be denied based on that. Again, I don't think he should be in CECOT

 

[Broke Lester]

This is just fucked up all around. Best case scenario for this guy is if the prison/guards orders the other inmates not to mess with him or else he's done in there.

 

[Deorum]

All the supposed experts in here saying "someone will make him his bitch". Bullshit. Ain't nobody having a "girl" in that dorm environment. There's a 99.99% chance that he's being held down by 5 other guys and gang raped. Repeatedly.

And it was also mentioned that the guards will be watching constantly. Ya right. Don't let TV shows fool you. Nobody is paying attention to 100 people in a cell with that level of detail like they do when the cameras are on. There's a reason only a few journalists have ever been allowed access to CECOT. Because abuses happen all day long.

And here's the sickening part. This guy has just as high of chance of being raped by the guards as he does the prisoners. In fact, if I were to bet, I would say he's going to be abused by both.

Yeaaaah, I'd say death is infinitely preferable to that.

 

[deadshot138]

I guess women don't mind being raped because they have sex with their husbands all the time!

Ya, and the ni**ers didn't mind working in the fields because their skin doesn't burn, and the Jews didn't mind being gassed because their big noses could take in extra oxygen despite the gas, and, and, the gays, they don't mind being raped, because they're gay!

You ARE the 1930's German who 'didn't mind that their neighbor was taken, held without due process, and then thrown out with the garbage'.

Jesus FN Christ. I'm starting to feel embarrassed for even belonging to these forums. How is it possible that you guys can write messages on a computer? I'm literally surprised that you can even dress yourself.

 

[Hog-train]

To be fair Trump didn't even get half the popular vote and I'm sure a non-negligable number of those voters are regretting their choice.

They're regretting their choice due to economic reasons though, not because of immigration.

 

[BKMMAFAN]

There is so much misinformation online about this case, who knows what is true. People should stop being played by the media for outrage. Guy was here illegally, he isn't here now. If Biden had done something about the border 4 years ago, maybe all of this wouldn't have been needed. It took 3.5 years of the last admin to finally say "stop coming" while the "border czar" laughed about it. How many times did the two idiots say it wasn't an issue? How many people in here said it was made up? All until it was. Right now, MS-13 and Tren De Argua are getting decimated and deported and some of you are bitching about that. You can act outraged if you want, as long as they get rid of them. Some of you opening your mouths just don't live in areas affected. All good as long as not in your backyard.

It's Biden's fault there's no longer due process!!! It's Obama's fault the executive can ignore federal court orders! It's the democratz'! fault the constitution is being torn asunder!!!

Am I following this right? When I'm done with baseless whataboutism remind me to allow time for solemn reflection of the courage required for Dear Leader to buck the centuries old legal tradition by untethering itself completely from judicial review. So brave!!