Crime Maine shooting - 18 dead

[Source]

Looks like he took the Pussy’s way out. Instead, he could have had a shootout with police and he decided to swallow a bullet like the ultimate bitch. First, he goes into a bowling alley and shoots deaf people, then he shoots himself like a real fucking pussy

So you’d rather him go out in a shootout with cops so he could take a few out or so one of your brethren get to live out their fantasy of killing another human being? I know you’re not a good person but are you seriously retarded?

 

[Koro_11]

Yeah great.. totally normal way to live for "the wealthiest nation in the world"

Trading 10-20 innocent lives for one asshole with a gun every time

Same asshole could just as easy get into a car in say a Scandinavian country, and plow through a sidewalk and take out just as many.

 

[nhbbear]

I mean, it probably wouldn't have gone the way you think it would if he had a shootout with the cops unless there was a tac unit involved. With his training and expertise he would have likely turned beat cops into Swiss cheese. Him offing himself was the best possible outcome. Spares officers from death, injury , or the trauma of killing someone (unless it isn't traumatic when you kill a shit bag.)

Don’t get me wrong, I am happy he did this and no cops were hurt, but for a man that went on a killing spree against helpless targets and then offs himself instead of taking in armed cops makes him a complete pussy. My guess is he is afraid he would be taken alive and spend forever in prison

 

[nhbbear]

So you’d rather him go out in a shootout with cops so he could take a few out or so one of your brethren get to live out their fantasy of killing another human being? I know you’re not a good person but are you seriously retarded?

No, dipshit, I am saying that to demonstrate how big of a pussy he is that rather than face someone that is armed like he is, he kills himself instead. Probably afraid of being taken alive

 

[Source]

No, dipshit, I am saying that to demonstrate how big of a pussy he is that rather than face someone that is armed like he is, he kills himself instead. Probably afraid of being taken alive

Try to spin it how you want. It’s more likely you’re just a psychopath.

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

 

[Limeade]

Yes we must think about the victims and survivors. My heart goes out to the bar manager and the sign language interpretator who were trying to protect their people.

But what's going to happen to his kids? He had joint custody with an ex-wife. Will she recieve any benefit for widows or does it not apply because he did not die while on active service? It is not easy to raise kids by yourself. I know very little about these kids of benefits, but would be terrible if this leads to even more broken lives down the road.

 

[Staph infection]

Basically, he was a mentally ill person, wh'd recently been laid off... he bought those guns sameday and killed people. This one isn't complicated - people who buy longbarrel semi-autos should also have some sort of pysch eval / green light on mental health.

People use cars to kill others, should we have a pysch eval before you can purchase a car? People that want to kill others will find away.

 

[Limeade]

I mean, it probably wouldn't have gone the way you think it would if he had a shootout with the cops unless there was a tac unit involved. With his training and expertise he would have likely turned beat cops into Swiss cheese. Him offing himself was the best possible outcome. Spares officers from death, injury , or the trauma of killing someone (unless it isn't traumatic when you kill a shit bag.)

Can you confirm the part about his training and expertise? I heard some reports about being an instructor but maybe that was errors from early reporting.

"Card was not trained by the Army as a firearms instructor, "nor did he serve in that capacity for the Army," the spokesperson, Bryce Dubee, added."

 

[HockeyBjj]

the firearms laws in Maine are flimsy as fuck.

For what it’s worth, Maine has the second lowest murder rate in the country despite those flimsy gun laws

2.9 per 100k.

 

[Beechwood]

the article isn't directly mentions to the Maine shooting but it fits the events that sadly happened there. We could make America better, by helping around 50% of the homeless and lessen crime level, sometimes these crazy shooting crimes, if we had better mental health programs in the US. Our current mental health system is cruel.

My understanding is we used to have a better mental health care program in America. Then starting in the 70s many cities and states did away wih them.

We Need to Institutionalize the Mentally Ill, Instead of All Americans
We don't have a homeless or mass shooter problem, we have a mental illness problem.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/we-need-to-institutionalize-the-mentally-ill-instead-of-all-americans/

excerpt:

After the Maine massacre, we are hearing the familiar response to a mass shooting by a mentally ill man, which is to deprive everyone of their civil rights. The reality is that if you have violent and dangerous people on the loose, they will get their hands on guns or other weapons, regardless of whatever laws there are. Gun control doesn’t stop killers, it stops people from protecting themselves. If you want to stop mentally unstable mass shooters, institutionalize them.

A lot of seriously mentally ill people desperately need help, some even request it, but they don’t get it.....

 

[Octavian]

People use cars to kill others, should we have a pysch eval before you can purchase a car? People that want to kill others will find away.

Spare us your shitty logic... cars are made for transport, guns are made for nothing other than firing projectiles at living things. Yes, just about anything can kill you but this guys couldn't walk into a bowling alley with a car under his arm and gun down a dozen people. Every time something like this happens, we all have to sit hear and listen to this pathetic, border line mentally ill logic from gun nuts ... "gee - well he could have killed a dozen people with a bus too!!!". No shit but that doesn't refute the simple fact that mass murders via guns are wildly higher than pretty much any other developed nation that has strict gun ownership laws. Maine's gun laws are a joke.

 

[Bojka]

the article isn't directly mentions to the Maine shooting but it fits the events that sadly happened there. We could make America better, by helping around 50% of the homeless and lessen crime level, sometimes these crazy shooting crimes, if we had better mental health programs in the US. Our current mental health system is cruel.

My understanding is we used to have a better mental health care program in America. Then starting in the 70s many cities and states did away wih them.

We Need to Institutionalize the Mentally Ill, Instead of All Americans
We don't have a homeless or mass shooter problem, we have a mental illness problem.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/we-need-to-institutionalize-the-mentally-ill-instead-of-all-americans/

excerpt:

After the Maine massacre, we are hearing the familiar response to a mass shooting by a mentally ill man, which is to deprive everyone of their civil rights. The reality is that if you have violent and dangerous people on the loose, they will get their hands on guns or other weapons, regardless of whatever laws there are. Gun control doesn’t stop killers, it stops people from protecting themselves. If you want to stop mentally unstable mass shooters, institutionalize them.

A lot of seriously mentally ill people desperately need help, some even request it, but they don’t get it.....

Only like 5% of mass shootings are caused by mentally ill people. Overwhelming majority are caused by a young male malignant narcissist or a middle aged man with no priors after a crisis.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

the shooters family needs to be arrested just for sharing blood with him.

 

[nhbbear]

Try to spin it how you want. It’s more likely you’re just a psychopath.

Yeah, ok. Sure buddy, You got me figured out. Right from the first post where you said that one of my brethren would get to live out their fantasy of killing someone. You have no fucking idea what you’re talking about. One of cops’ biggest fears are having to shoot someone, along with dying in the line of duty, and having to deal with abuse or death scenes involving children.

I am glad he’s dead. One way or the other. But this isn’t justice. He got to punch his own ticket. He was captured or shot by police, he shot himself. And that pisses me off a bit because that is how it often happens. You have some total bitch descend on a soft target, caused lots of carnage, and then instead of facing someone that can fight back, he probably sat there sobbing until he ate that bullet.

 

[Source]

Yeah, ok. Sure buddy, You got me figured out. Right from the first post where you said that one of my brethren would get to live out their fantasy of killing someone. You have no fucking idea what you’re talking about. One of cops’ biggest fears are having to shoot someone, along with dying in the line of duty, and having to deal with abuse or death scenes involving children.

I am glad he’s dead. One way or the other. But this isn’t justice. He got to punch his own ticket. He was captured or shot by police, he shot himself. And that pisses me off a bit because that is how it often happens. You have some total bitch descend on a soft target, caused lots of carnage, and then instead of facing someone that can fight back, he probably sat there sobbing until he ate that bullet.

I figured you out a long time ago pal. The only outcome where there was no chance of anyone else being injured or killed and you’re bitching about it. That’s not the reaction of a decent human being. That’s my contention with your post I quoted.

You seem to want some form of closure through vengeance. It is neither yours to desire and wasn’t coming for the families of the victims. If anyone that doesn’t know what they are talking about it’s you. Get some help champ.

 

[nhbbear]

I figured you out a long time ago pal. The only outcome where there was no chance of anyone else being injured or killed and you’re bitching about it. That’s not the reaction of a decent human being. That’s my contention with your post I quoted.

You seem to want some form of closure through vengeance. It is neither yours to desire and wasn’t coming for the families of the victims. If anyone that doesn’t know what they are talking about it’s you. Get some help champ.

Ok, buddy

 

[Eric O]

And the motive was.....

It will never be mentioned....

 

[Halifax]

Yeah, ok. Sure buddy, You got me figured out. Right from the first post where you said that one of my brethren would get to live out their fantasy of killing someone. You have no fucking idea what you’re talking about. One of cops’ biggest fears are having to shoot someone, along with dying in the line of duty, and having to deal with abuse or death scenes involving children.

I am glad he’s dead. One way or the other. But this isn’t justice. He got to punch his own ticket. He was captured or shot by police, he shot himself. And that pisses me off a bit because that is how it often happens. You have some total bitch descend on a soft target, caused lots of carnage, and then instead of facing someone that can fight back, he probably sat there sobbing until he ate that bullet.

*shrugs

I'm just glad he is no longer a threat. If he died like a bitch, he went the way he lived

 

[Renard]

I'm pretty sure the goal is to eventually apply the NY model everywhere, which essentially destroys the 2nd amendment, without having to directly destroy it, by throwing a bunch of state-level laws at it. Endless permits -- premise permits, carry permits that only work from the house to the mailbox, ammo permits -- fees, handgun registration, mandatory wait times to buy a gun, background checks, character references, real-time automated checks for ammo purchases, classes, years-long wait times, all passed through the slowest, most corrupt and openly hostile to gun rights bureaucracy in the country. You're basically back to bolt-action rifles, may as well be Europe or Australia.

If you advocate for removal of gun rights based on something like schizophrenia, the people at the top will 100% use that opportunity to start widening the criteria. 50% of Americans will meet criteria for a mental disorder at some point in their life. Anxiety, depression, substance abuse, PTSD, etc. It's probably closer to 75% if you count the ones that are under-diagnosed. Before you know it you've become some New Yorker shmuck who gets their permit turned down by an automated system because someone prescribed you Xanax 10 years ago, and there won't be a single human you can talk to to work it out.