Social MAGA 2025 Civil war incoming! Vivek Ramaswamy Betrays Base & reveals true colors, Says Americans SUCK !!

MAGA has a rich guy fetish. Weird all the rich guys they worship are old, fat or look like they have Low T.
Elon legit looks like he has a birth defect. Big barrel Chest and pipe cleaners for arms. Vivek looks like a dude that got bullied on the reg, and Trump is a 3rd generation trust fund baby who was sheltered all his life. America's greatest generation would be disgusted with Conservatives worshipping 3 rich trust fund Beta's. John Wayne would have put all 3 of them down, before he even had to flick the ash off his Marlboro Red.
 
How bout summary bud?

Well, they covered a lot of different topics about it. I don’t want to say too much detail as I may get it wrong, as it is a topic I never really looked into before and had on in the background as I worked.

But the notion was when manufacturing jobs were shipped overseas, people were told to learn code. Now those people who were told to code are losing jobs to people being shipped here from overseas.

A lot of them are not the best and brightest, they have degrees some mediocre schools and basically get on the job training here. Moreover it is basically like indentured servitude in that they bring them over, pay them less, treat them worse, but they will put up with it because their countries suck. Which undermines American workers and values for profit.

Trump had wanted to reform the Visa program during his first administration, greatly reducing it and rather than a lottery style (which doesn’t guarantee the best), do it based on salary being offered. However some close in his admin were against it, and slow walked his reform until a month or so before he left office and then Biden scrapped it.

Like I said, I hadn’t thought much about h1b visas before, but hearing them talk and being up the Disney story reminded me that one of my best buds worked for Wells Fargo and basically was sent to India for 2 months to train the people who would be replacing him.

Not because they were more qualified than my friend as he was indeed training them, but because they were cheaper, can be treated worse, etc.

Went into other tangents related to it, but those were main take away I guess.

Some did ail 3, but VERY few of us athletes can do calculus, and most scientists can't even hit a foul shot.


Bannon hits hard, please do ccf !

They def hit hard lol. As I said above, I hadn’t given it much thought. Everyone on his podcast are in agreement on the issue, so no counter points offered, but pretty good discussion

First hour



Second

 
nobody is taking this seriously right?

or ... is laura loomer someone to listen to now?

I cant keep up
A broke clock is right twice a day.
She made valid points, posted videos of Trump saying less work visas, and then called Leon a stage 5 clinger.
She posted the salaries Elon paid his H1B workers than Elon censored her, because Freeze Peach only applies to speech that does not make President Elite-on look bad.
My favorite part is Elon, telling Bibi he is the unofficial President.
 
So, it's ok to bring in massive numbers of foreigners who will undercut American born wage earners as long as they're brought in by elites using legal systems they can game, but struggling farmers hiring migrant workers for lack of anyone else to do the job are destroying the country?

Silly bitches.

Where I live, all the migrant workers that come to work on farms are from South Africa.
Why? Because it's cheap labor that can be exploited.

The last farmer I worked for had South Africans, great guys. During harvest, we worked for 1.5 months straight, 7 days a week, 16-hour days with no breaks. Canola needs to be swathed at night, so there were a couple of times we were up 72 hours straight.
Most Americans aren't willing to put in that amount of hours, and they shouldn't have to. I'm never going to do that shit again, the mental toll is too much.

I happened to "come across" one of their pay stubs, and they were getting paid 1/4 of what I was getting paid. And they knew if they complained, they'd get sent back. They were getting taken advantage of.

When it comes to fruit picking, like watermelons, farmers aren't willing to pay them a liveable wage. Offer a liveable wage, and you'll get Americans to apply. But I sure as shit, and I'm sure you wouldn't either, pick fruit for $2ish an hour.
 
LOLLL WHO CARES you libtards will be upset over anything
Wait till MAGA finds out employers hiring preferences are nearly identical in every industry and it's not just "skilled tech labor", but all industries that require labor, skilled or unskilled.


tell me retard what's gonna happen... you libtards are so dumb... the earth is gonna keep spinning

sucks to lose eh??
 
This type of thing always happens to dominate nations. The success and wealth is so great no one needs to try much to live a comfortable life.

This was a part of the downfall of the Mongols for instance. The founding generations of the Mongol empire were some of the hardest ruthless mother fuckers that ever existed that grew up in the saddle and engaged in all types of hunting and warfare since childhood, but within two generations that had become so soft from the literal endless caravans of tribute being brought to their capitols their children and grandchildren were basically a bunch of drunken losers and any battlefield edge they had was gone.
age old wisdom like “soft times creates soft men” is viewed by historians as being meaningless and just a way to explain decline that people could not explain, but at this point it’s just so obvious that is what’s happening.

Obviously not the way that our ancestors meant it, where it is all about traditional gender roles and warrior ethos, but culture changes rapidly and what lead to success for a culture can disappear with those cultural changes.
 
LOLLL WHO CARES you libtards will be upset over anythign



tell me retard what's gonna happen... you libtards are so dumb... the earth is gonna keep spinning

sucks to lose eh??

Nothing is going to happen because you are shameless no talent losers, you'll let your elected leaders publicly shit all over you and ask for more because you are too dumb to even admit you're wrong about something.
 
“It’s easier to bring in skilled laborers who will work for a fraction of the cost that are happy to be here at all”

I can’t say I disagree
Sad AF fact.​

Once again, I mean Still, Corporations legally stealing tax dollars to kill off small businesses while constantly eliminating American jobs.

America's greatest generation would be disgusted with Conservatives worshipping 3 rich trust fund Beta's. John Wayne would have put all 3 of them down, before he even had to flick the ash off his Marlboro Red.
Zero Doubt.

I hadn’t thought much about h1b visas before, but hearing them talk and being up the Disney story reminded me that one of my best buds worked for Wells Fargo and basically was sent to India for 2 months to train the people who would be replacing him.

Not because they were more qualified than my friend as he was indeed training them, but because they were cheaper, can be treated worse, etc.
What may be even worse, our US workers had to "temporarily" move out of country, train new workers there, then move all of our factory equipment there. There was nothing temporary except our jobs - when the plant was shut down.
 
Where I live, all the migrant workers that come to work on farms are from South Africa.
Why? Because it's cheap labor that can be exploited.

The last farmer I worked for had South Africans, great guys. During harvest, we worked for 1.5 months straight, 7 days a week, 16-hour days with no breaks. Canola needs to be swathed at night, so there were a couple of times we were up 72 hours straight.
Most Americans aren't willing to put in that amount of hours, and they shouldn't have to. I'm never going to do that shit again, the mental toll is too much.

I happened to "come across" one of their pay stubs, and they were getting paid 1/4 of what I was getting paid. And they knew if they complained, they'd get sent back. They were getting taken advantage of.

When it comes to fruit picking, like watermelons, farmers aren't willing to pay them a liveable wage. Offer a liveable wage, and you'll get Americans to apply. But I sure as shit, and I'm sure you wouldn't either, pick fruit for $2ish an hour.
We use backpackers for cheap labour for the farms arpund here. 25$ aud a hour ( give or take ) so around 15.50 usd.

Exploitation still happens tho
 
age old wisdom like “soft times creates soft men” is viewed by historians as being meaningless and just a way to explain decline that people could not explain, but at this point it’s just so obvious that is what’s happening.

Obviously not the way that our ancestors meant it, where it is all about traditional gender roles and warrior ethos, but culture changes rapidly and what lead to success for a culture can disappear with those cultural changes.

Yeah I would generally agree with historians on that as well, it's a lot more complicated for sure. Obviously in general even the toughest American during its peak is softer than pretty much any medieval steppe peasant, and the phenomena is more to do with how abundance and technology impacts culture, especially exponential increases in either over a relative short period of time, and lack of domestic and/or external competition.

Even today, America has no real competition except our own quarterly earnings.
 
I used to do a bit about this- immigrants will move here with no money and a tentative grasp on the English language and within 5 years they own their own business, drive a nicer car and have more money than me. I was born on third and told to run home and these mother fuckers are still beating me around the bases

Some immigrants pull this off.

I think the massively different levels of education between immigrant subgroups is tragically underappreciated, under-mentioned, under everything. Basically, Asian immigrants are highly educated, much more so than even American whites, so this is the biggest reason why they're the model minority, why they have the lowest rates of crime, are highly accomplished, etc.

Even the few Asians that only have a HS education or less have an easier time climbing socially because the overall immigrant community of their group is so high achieving. So a Chinese taxi driver migrates here and is lowly paid, but all the other Chinese immigrants around him own businesses and are successful so they help each other materially, serve as role models for his kids, etc.

Latin American immigrants- especially Mexicans and Central Americans- have very little of this.
 
I think Americans want these jobs to go to highly skilled Americans.

I used to do a bit about this- immigrants will move here with no money and a tentative grasp on the English language and within 5 years they own their own business, drive a nicer car and have more money than me. I was born on third and told to run home and these mother fuckers are still beating me around the bases

America's success has always depended on bringing in talent from all over the world and giving them a chance to do what they do best, which is not made possible in many of the more restrictive countries.

The issue in more recent years has been, as Trump put it, that they weren't being sent the best. In some cases they were actually being sent the worst dregs of society, gang members and such.
 
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