"Living Wage" fee on receipts?

[KAZSoliloquy]

You guys startinv to see these bullshits in your receipts?

so an 18% tip? oh the humanity.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

They can just refuse service and cancel the transaction if you refuse the junk fees. The type of owners who set this shit up don't give staff at the checkout counter the ability to remove the fee.

A service fee that is not tipped out but goes to payroll is basically a mandatory tip to the owner instead of an optional tip to the staff.

There's nothing communist or pro worker about this at all.

Any food establishment that automatically adds a 18% 'living wage' surcharge is guaranteed to not be in business much longer.


Oh by the way, a 'living wage' act' what 'Democratic-Socialism' ....

...Bernie Sanders ran on in 2016 & 2020.





Yeah, a 'Living Wage' surcharge is so free-market.

 

[Spounman]

Hey @Law Talkin’ Guy

Isn't this technically illegal since there isn't a tangible transaction of goods and services?
Wouldn't there need to be a sign in place informing the customers ahead of time that this fee is there and continuing to patronize the establishment implies consent to be charged that fee?

Another thing I assume should be illegal. I went to a diner recently and they had a note on their counter stating that they charge 8% more if you don't use cash because they need to pay for their debit/cc reading service.

Since when did restaurants start charging each customer for their bills on top of their food/service.

 

[NoSmilez]

I think the living wage fee is fine unless they want you to tip on top of that. Tipping is like 20 percent minimum now. If they want to go to 18 then it's fine. It also depends what kind of restaurant it is. If it's a self serve spot then the mandatory tip is nonsense.

I never worked in a restaurant but I cringe every time I see young chicks being forced to flirt with old dudes for some tips. I just want my food and cup of water. I don't need some asshole to pretend that they like me so I tip them more.

 

[BoomStronk]

Wrong, it's capitalist bullshit.

It doesn't go into a bonus pool like tips that are paid on top of hourly wages, it's an 18% service charge that goes to the owner, then the owners says it's going to the payroll account.

It does not claim the staff is making above minimum wage.

You're just getting taxed by the owner to support the business.

It's like raising prices by 18% but putting lipstick on the pig.

Was gonna post this.

The dumber posters on here will definitely call this "socialist" or "communist" but as you've pointed out, this is 100% grade A capitalist bullshit.

Even if the money did go directly to the staff, it's still bullshit, and it's still capitalism.

A company exists in order to provide goods/services within the economy. If the company can't do that without tacking on additional charges with an associated sense of guilt - money that should be included in the wages they must pay their employees, then that is simply not a viable business.

 

[Sinister]

100%.

0%

100% the result of capitalism

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Lol a line item for begging. Hilarious

 

[Sinister]

Hey @Law Talkin’ Guy

Isn't this technically illegal since there isn't a tangible transaction of goods and services?
Wouldn't there need to be a sign in place informing the customers ahead of time that this fee is there and continuing to patronize the establishment implies consent to be charged that fee?

This administration overturned legislation against junk fees. Depending on how high this goes in Court, it will stand.

 

[Other]

This administration overturned legislation against junk fees. Depending on how high this goes in Court, it will stand.

Late-stage capitalism is looking more and more bleak.

 

[shunyata]

This administration overturned legislation against junk fees. Depending on how high this goes in Court, it will stand.

This is right out of the ticketmaster playbook, and with the overturning of regulations on junk fees and the CFPB getting shut down we can expect more junk fees in banking all over again too.

Low balance fee overdrafts you, then you get hit with the overdraft fees, so you can once again go from $45 in your checking account to negative $300 without spending a nickel because it'll be legal for your bank to rob you again.

 

[BoomStronk]

Any food establishment that automatically adds a 18% 'living wage' surcharge is guaranteed to not be in business much longer.


Oh by the way, a 'living wage' act' what 'Democratic-Socialism' ....

...Bernie Sanders ran on in 2016 & 2020.





Yeah, a 'Living Wage' surcharge is so free-market.

Gear... dude.... Come on man. Think a little bit.

You see the same words on a left wing political rally, printed on a receipt from a restaurant and you think, "these are the same thing!" ?

good lord man. You probably think the Nazis were socialist, right?

 

[Other]

Another thing I assume should be illegal. I went to a diner recently and they had a note on their counter stating that they charge 8% more if you don't use cash because they need to pay for their debit/cc reading service.

Since when did restaurants start charging each customer for their bills on top of their food/service.

I went back to cash to combat the rampant tipping culture. "Yes, I do want all my change back"

 

[nonoob]

Stealing tips and funneling them to the owner would normally be illegal but claiming you're a no tipping business with a service charge that goes to payroll is a totally legal way to pull it off.

Total Scumbag move. Servers ONLY Deserve the monetary tip, owner/mgrs swallow the rest.

Another thing I assume should be illegal. I went to a diner recently and they had a note on their counter stating that they charge 8% more if you don't use cash because they need to pay for their debit/cc reading service.

If this is Made Clear to patrons BEFORE their order is made, No issue IMHO at all - it's Not an Unreasonable request.

 

[shunyata]

Total Scumbag move. Servers ONLY Deserve the monetary tip, owner/mgrs swallow the rest.


If this is Made Clear to patrons BEFORE their order is made, No issue IMHO at all - it's Not an Unreasonable request.

I'm ok with tipping out the kitchen but yeah, managers should not be skimming tips.

 

[nonoob]

I'm ok with tipping out the kitchen but yeah, managers should not be skimming tips.

lol, like that POS manlet weenie banging Amy on chef Gordon's ABC show...

 

[UberHere]

Just a chicken shit way to raise the prices

Without compensating employees

 

[Fury]

If this is Made Clear to patrons BEFORE their order is made, No issue IMHO at all - it's Not an Unreasonable request.

I've never had this, living wage crap, on a bill. I've seen where restaurants add 18% gratuity for a party of 6 or more. Usually the not cheap but not quite high end restaurants.

In those cases it's generally on the menu and probably out front.

 

[Spounman]

If this is Made Clear to patrons BEFORE their order is made, No issue IMHO at all - it's Not an Unreasonable request.

It's not, it's posted next to the cash register. When people walk in they are seated, they don't go near the cash register until they're ready to leave.

 

[Sinister]

Lol a line item for begging. Hilarious

You think the staff did this?

This is a line item for private businesses to subsidize the wages of the labor they need

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

I've seen... If paying with cash , pay with the exact amount... we don't give back change.