Khamzat SMESH Everyone MEGATHREAD.

[Derousey]

Can we just call him khazmat? His name annoys me.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Machida is up there. 15-0 when he won the belt and brutally KOd Rashad. Maybe not quite as dominant? But he faces far higher level comp

 

[The Chosen]

Khamzat is probably the most dominant..

But Jones was the most talented prospect..

Khamzat steamrolls opponents in conventional ways, where as Jones was doing things we hadn't seen before, his creativity was off the charts..

Jones entered the sport when the skill level was primitive by today’s standards. That’s like saying Royce is the GOAT because he knew what a triangle was before the American public

 

[The Chosen]

Being this dominant is also a form of creativity. If you've absorbed just 2 strikes in 4 fights then you're doing something unique that nobody else ever has.

Khamzat is simply fast, very fast. Compare that to the slow, plodding Kamaru Usman and you can already see who the true champion is.

 

[GUY]

Adesanya isn’t bigger than Khamzat. I’m not sure he’s faster either. He has more tools as a striker that’s the only thing I’m sure Izzy has an advantage. It’s Izzy’s TDD is solid, but if Jan can get him down, Khamzat can do that as well.

Usman is definitely a harder fight for Khamzat than Izzy. Khamzat vs Usman will determine who’s the best WW of all time

eheh "if Jan can take him down Khamzat can as well"

 

[davidlemonparty]

A khamzat nutrider?
Sure you will be loving it if he can get down to 155 and show his throws there as well but it's all good "if he makes weight".

Hazmat is a muscular, lean build. Look at him. Don't let your hate blind you.

There are plenty of taller guys fighting in way smaller weight classes. Khamzat looks more suited to WW than Sandhagen to BW or Conor did to FW

 

[ExitLUPin]

He already had a loss and a draw by then though. He'd accomplished more than Khamzat at that point in his career, but he wasn't more dominant.


The only fighters you can really compare are previously mentioned Jones and also Ronda Rousey who was a world champion and 9-0 with 9 finishes and 8 first round finishes at that stage.

Cody Garbrandt. He went from unranked to the BW champ in a calendar year, in his 4th year as a pro. 2022 will be Khamzats 4th year. When 2016 started Cody was just a promising prospect out of TAM. When 2016 finished he ended Dominick Cruzs reign @ BW. KOd or dominated everyone en route to BW gold and didn't drop a round until the Cruz fight.

Weidman is a other worth mentioning. Short notice, broken rib against Sakara who was a top 20-25 MW on the best run of his career. He didn't "dominate" Maia but won every round and had one of the worst weight cuts ever. 32lbs in 10 days. Didn't lose a round until the Lyoto fight.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

about as dominant as jon jones so far. really impressive stuff.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Cody Garbrandt. He went from unranked to the BW champ in a calendar year, in his 4th year as a pro. 2022 will be Khamzats 4th year. When 2016 started Cody was just a promising prospect out of TAM. When 2016 finished he ended Dominick Cruzs reign @ BW. KOd or dominated everyone en route to BW gold and didn't drop a round until the Cruz fight.

Weidman is a other worth mentioning. Short notice, broken rib against Sakara who was a top 20-25 MW on the best run of his career. He didn't "dominate" Maia but won every round and had one of the worst weight cuts ever. 32lbs in 10 days. Didn't lose a round until the Lyoto fight.

Cody is a good shout. I think we're just talking up to 9 fights, Cody had been dominant in all his wins to that point and in his 9th fight smashed a well regarded Takeya Mizugaki.

Weidman I would say like BJ, more accomplished by 9 fights, but less dominant looking in those fights (but against better competition). I'd say the same for Joanna who I would have name dropped if it wasn't for the close Gadelha fight (but Gadelha was a lot better in the context of the division than anyone Khamzat has fought).

 

[The Chosen]

Kamaru’s best win is a kickboxing bout with Colby Covington who got bloodied by Damien Maia prior. It’s soon going to look foolish we ever considered Usman p4p #1

 

[Londonjitsu]

Gsp Jones etc fought way harder competition in their first ufc fights.
GSP had karo in his first fight

 

[The UFC Brander Collector]

This happened in 2011, the bigger kid had copped years of bullying and the school/s did nothing about it. Well until the over-weight kid fought back and the video went viral and the news did a report about it. The school principal and Vice Principal of the school were forced to resign and alot of heads rolled because of the incident. The kid had been bullied non stop for years and no matter how many times he's parents said stuff to the school nothing ever happened. The poor kid finally snapped and pulled a wwe move out, and the little shit of a bully paren'ts tried to sue the school and the bigger kids parents for the injury the kid got.

The bigger kid was a walking punching bag for years and he finally fought back and hasn't been hassled since.

The news report:>

He got to meet Bieber. All is good

 

[Xoleth]

His name is MARTY

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

Khamzat is new Erick Silva, what an incredible specimen

 

[ExitLUPin]

Cody is a good shout. I think we're just talking up to 9 fights, Cody had been dominant in all his wins to that point and in his 9th fight smashed a well regarded Takeya Mizugaki.

Weidman I would say like BJ, more accomplished by 9 fights, but less dominant looking in those fights (but against better competition). I'd say the same for Joanna who I would have name dropped if it wasn't for the close Gadelha fight (but Gadelha was a lot better in the context of the division than anyone Khamzat has fought).

Khamzat just had his 10th fight. Cody melted Mizugaki and Almeida by then. In his next fight he'd end Cruz's reign. Khamzat would have the usurp Usman next year to overtake Cody TBH.

Weidman wasn't pulverizing the same way as Khamzat mainly the fights that went to decision but like you said far better comp and he still didn't lose a round or was in any real trouble until the Lyoto fight.

 

[ExitLUPin]

I remember when GSP was coming up the ranks. He was great, but I don't think he looked half as dominant as Khamzat is right now, though GSP fought better competition.

Jones, Cain, Conor all looked pretty dominant, but I don't think not quite on Khamzat's level.

I wasn't following MMA in 2002~2003 when Fedor was more of a prospect, so I can't comment on that, but having watched his fights after the fact, he was mauling people. Khabib didn't look this dominant either. I mean he lost to Tibau let's be honest.

I know people love Cejudo and all, but not even close. Cormier was good, but he wasn't this dominant.

I have a very difficult time trying to remember someone who was as dominant as Khamzat is looking right now. I consider his win over Leech and his MW win legit wins.

The question is, is Khamzat the most dominant prospect of all time?

Fedor wasn't as highly touted as a prospect but in hindsight he should've been. Not at the time tho. The Japanese promoters thought Hodrigo would beat him and Hodrigo was a big star and Fedor was mainly this talented pudgy Russian dude. Fedor was actually the underdog against Heath Herring the fight before. The way he fucked him up and had him trying to escape via the ropes due to how scared he was in the fight is what got ppl to think okay this dude is a problem

Khamzat was even a sizable favorite against Leon Edwards FWIW. That should tell you how regarded he is. I don't think Khamzat would be the underdog against any WW in the UFC besides Usman.

 

[Dorkman]

I'd argue his best win at WW is actually Burns. Burns has just been juggernauting everyone else at WW not named Usman. And proved how dangerous he is even to Usman with how he stunned him round 1 in their fight. I respect Colby's ability to fight and think he's real good too. But slightly behind current day burns to me, who is the second most potent fighter at 170 outside of potential unproven prospects in my eyes. Since he stopped killing himself to make LW and moved up we've really seen how dangerous burns really is. And Usman put him down where almost everyone else in the division wilts to him. Burns bulldogs guys similarly to how Khamzat does.

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

Can we just call him khazmat? His name annoys me.

We can but that's not his name, Derourey

 

[ExitLUPin]

We don't know shit about Khamzats striking besides he hits like a truck

How do we know what happens if he can't get Kamaru down or KO him early? The technical parts of his striking are unknown.

We also haven't seen his heart or mental strength tested but we have seen that from Usman. It'd be foolish to be confident in Khamzat. We don't know about Khamzats cardio either while Kamaru has all-time cardio and can go 5 no problem and still have power in round 5

With that said Usman isn't p4p #1 or even top 3. Volk, Max, Yan is the top 3

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Khamzat just had his 10th fight. Cody melted Mizugaki and Almeida by then. In his next fight he'd end Cruz's reign. Khamzat would have the usurp Usman next year to overtake Cody TBH.

Weidman wasn't pulverizing the same way as Khamzat mainly the fights that went to decision but like you said far better comp and he still didn't lose a round or was in any real trouble until the Lyoto fight.

Yeah, I think optically in the way that Khamzat is just steamrolling everyone with absolutely no resistance looks like something else, but there are comparable ones when you look at it. I do think GM3, Ikram and Leech are competent fighters though and Khamzat made all three of them look like they had absolutely no business being in the cage with him.