Karate blackbelt Jesse Enkamp demonstrates why BJJ does not work

[Cpt Migraine]

God damn some people are sensitive..

He showed himself getting rag dolled by higher level belts, being warned by the ref and then applying bjj to win..

It might just be me.. but what if it's not that serious.. maybe even a bit of irony?

 

[Wilmer Digreux]

lol at him bridging a rock in the training sequence <45>

 

[Osculater]

I wonder why they'd allow him in that comp to make his video. I used to have a "Sifu" (chinese for master) who claimed he had a way to beat the gracies, I think he said he'd pinch them or something. He was like 70 at the time too.

Pressure points! LOL

 

[mixmastermo]

God damn some people are sensitive..

He showed himself getting rag dolled by higher level belts, being warned by the ref and then applying bjj to win..

It might just be me.. but what if it's not that serious.. maybe even a bit of irony?

Shoosh don't spoil the fun and give it away. Let's keep arguing over theoretical matchups that will never happen.

 

[mixmastermo]

I'll see your Simpsons reference and raise you 1 Shinya Aoki

Not sure why Mario stepped in.. I don't see Gilbert doing anything wrong.

 

[Osculater]

Cro Cop vs. Takada worked the same way. Takada couldn't take him down so he just spread his legs and nothing happened.

Worst porn ever!

 

[NoSmilez]

lol at him bridging a rock in the training sequence <45>

The cone got me

 

[mozfonky]

Pressure points! LOL

sensie gary dillman can do it.

I've met several people in the old martial arts who claim things like this are real, maybe in fact the majority of them.

 

[Osculater]

sensie gary dillman can do it.

I've met several people in the old martial arts who claim things like this are real, maybe in fact the majority of them.

 

[Da Speeit]

I'm not really familiar with BJJ scoring system. Is the table below correct? Back control does not seem to be a great striking position until you establish back mount compared to knee on belly.

Yeah that’s accurate. It’s the IBJJF ruleset and most tourneys use this format.

Back is the most dominant position to control/choke. If you get your back taken in a jiu jitsu match at any level above white you’re probably done for. Very hard to get out and very hard to not be finished. For the rest, based on striking.

knee on belly shouldnt score imo

 

[Da Speeit]

What happens when both butt scoot at the same time? Will both get dq’d

Buttscooting doesnt exist in IBJJF without establishing grips first. What happens often is a double-pull where both competitors sit at the same time. From there they have 20 seconds (i believe) to progress, or they’re both given penalties.

after 3 penalties they’re both dq’d.

in rulesets where sitting to guard is allowed, the onus is on the person standing to engage and they will be penalized if not

 

[mixmastermo]

sensie gary dillman can do it.

I've met several people in the old martial arts who claim things like this are real, maybe in fact the majority of them.

Whoa this video even has medical advice. Thanks!!

 

[Prefect]

Tournament scoring is based on the best positions to strike someone.

the scoring is fine, it’s the selective “rules” within the rules that are the issue. Most refs are terrible too, even at the highest level.

The ref in the video should have dq’d the karate guy way before he even gave him a penalty.

DQ'ing the karate guy only proves the point that BJJ tournaments are artificial. What is the point of a BJJ tournment when it is rendered pointless when one party doesn't want to get taken down or refuses to get on top of the buttscooter?

 

[Da Speeit]

DQ'ing the karate guy only proves the point that BJJ tournaments are artificial. What is the point of a BJJ tournment when it is rendered pointless when one party doesn't want to get taken down or refuses to get on top of the buttscooter?

Dq’ing someone who isn’t engaging in combat in a combat sport is a good decision.

If you dont want to get taken down or do jiu jitsu then you shouldnt sign up for a jiu jitsu competition.

 

[mixmastermo]

Dq’ing someone who isn’t engaging in combat in a combat sport is a good decision.

If you dont want to get taken down or do jiu jitsu then you shouldnt sign up for a jiu jitsu competition.

I'll challenge you on that 2nd point. You shouldn't want to be the one being taken down. Also, his tactic worked, whether intentional or not. He frustrated his opponent and when he finally played along he was able to surprise him and submit him.

 

[Prefect]

sensie gary dillman can do it.

I've met several people in the old martial arts who claim things like this are real, maybe in fact the majority of them.

I have felt pressure points and I think I would describe them as being extremely painful when done correctly but I don't know how easy they are to do when you have a wild animal trying to punch you in the face.

 

[Prefect]

Dq’ing someone who isn’t engaging in combat in a combat sport is a good decision.

If you dont want to get taken down or do jiu jitsu then you shouldnt sign up for a jiu jitsu competition.

You are basically agreeing that BJJ tournaments carve out an artificial world. You basically force someone to jump on top of someone buttscooting or be taken down.

 

[mozfonky]

I have felt pressure points and I think I would describe them as being extremely painful when done correctly but I don't know how easy they are to do when you have a wild animal trying to punch you in the face.

I don't see how realistic those are, no ones going to let you just apply some touch like that, just the same as no one is gonna let you punch or put a lock on them without some resistance and it just doesn't seem realistic at all. Especially when you add in the dramatics that some of them do, falling over and shit. I do know several people who insist some wu wu shit is real but then why don't they go and do it in comp? Maybe it's just brainwashing and suggestion, they seem pretty gullible. As far as the sifu who claimed all he'd have to do is pinch gracie, it's not that you cannot do things to them, it's that it probably won't be nearly enough to beat them, more like annoy them or make them mad. Of course, we all know about the nuts/eyes/ears but if it's anything like sports, no one wants to see that kind of shit and you'll have your career ruined if you do those things. If it's still sport, and it is, then there should be some honor. Still, many martial artists claim they'd win "in the streets" it's just talk most of the time but yes, there are cases of ears getting ripped off, eyes getting plucked, nuts being bitten during a triangle. All for ego...,

 

[Da Speeit]

I'll challenge you on that 2nd point. You shouldn't want to be the one being taken down. Also, his tactic worked, whether intentional or not. He frustrated his opponent and when he finally played along he was able to surprise him and submit him.

Tbf his opponent absolutely sucks and is like a BEGINNER beginner. I’d honestly feel bad posting that if I beat him.

 

[Da Speeit]

You are basically agreeing that BJJ tournaments carve out an artificial world. You basically force someone to jump on top of someone buttscooting or be taken down.

No, im admitting that, in a fight where you and i have mutually agreed to fight, me not fighting would be punished.

If their match were an actual fight, he’d be doing the equivalent of running away, coming back, running away, coming back. He was penalized for it.

Buddy, i have boxed, kickboxed, done karate i teach jiu jitsu, have been in dozens of altercations in “da streetz” and nothing feels more like a street fight than someone grabbing hold of you and trying to slam your fucking chest through the mat. BJJ’s rules have their flaws, but the actual scoring criteria has never bothered me. It’s the closest thing to MMA you’re going to get with numerical scoring, and even then you’ve got successful promotions who don’t use that