Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

[Rob Battisti]

I don't need to be placated here, you're free to argue what you want in response to what I said if you disagree.

I want people, especially supposed centrists, to stop acting like Trump is a normal, respectable candidate instead of a unique threat to America's democratic institutions and norms in light of the fact that he tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. I want people to stop pretending that the radicals are a minority in the GOP when 2/3rds of the voters base believe the "Stop the Steal" conspiracy and Republican law makers and judges appointed by them have closed ranks behind Trump and shielded him from accountability. I want people to recognize that this series of events, Trump's attempted coup, the failed impeachment due to GOP partisanship, his dominant performance in the primary, and the immunity decision by the SCOTUS, collectively point to Trump becoming a uniquely powerful executive unrestrained by the other branches of government or his own voter base should he win reelection. And I want it recognized that in light of this there is nowhere near equal culpability for the insane polarization in the country right now.

Unlike all the nutty conspiracies that come out daily from the right this is virtually public record and isn't contested by the accused. This is an insanely unique moment in the history of American democracy that isn't getting anywhere near the attention it deserves from this angle. Saying the equivalent of "Trump should not have done that, it was the wrong thing to do" really doesn't cut it for me in light of the facts at hand.

This sounds like a case of TDS not gonna lie

 

[RoastBeast]

I like how you put it in quotes and qualified it by saying you won't vote for either, you just can't bare to flat out criticize Trump without some reference to "both sides" or some way to soften the criticism. That's how it comes off to me at least and why I don't buy your "centrism"

You couldn't bare to call the other side "evil" as well. Just "typical candidate". Lets not act like you're the moral authority here. You're just as partisan as the people you're criticizing.

 

[shockaholic12]

This was the DNC behavior then... was my point, whether you find it justified or not will both add up to how I feel about all of your opinions

Whether or not you find it justified to accuse the black candidate of being a lying secret African Muslim will add up to how democrats feel about your racism.

 

[SKYNET]

Whether or not you find it justified to accuse the black candidate of being a lying secret African Muslim will add up to how democrats feel about your racism.

You assigned this to me you imbecile

you are a fucking buffoon for tagging me gfys

 

[AmonTobin]

Question for US citizens. Can Harris bring in Sanders? I'm not from the states.

 

[Islam Imamate]

This sounds like a case of TDS not gonna lie

Why do you say that? What part do you disagree with? Earlier you didn't contest the timeline of events I laid out, that Trump organized a false slate of electors to try to overturn the 2020 election. Presumably I don't think you'd contest that Congressional Republicans refused to impeach Trump in the Senate or that the SCOTUS granted him immunity or that he handily won the GOP primary. If Congress won't hold him accountable after his coup attempt, SCOTUS has determined that he is largely above judicial review, and GOP voters happily granted him the nomination with zero resistance, who is there to hold Trump accountable should he win reelection?

You couldn't bare to call the other side "evil" as well. Just "typical candidate". Lets not act like you're the moral authority here. You're just as partisan as the people you're criticizing.

Because the other side did not try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power and overturn a free and fair election and therefore there is no comparison between Trump and any other candidate. I don't agree with the vast majority of Pence's beliefs and policy preferences but had the GOP vaulted him to the top of their nomination for putting country over party I could not be making any of the arguments I now am. Instead of picking the guy who stood up to his boss for the sake of democracy they chose the guy who tried to overturn a free and fair election and has talked about suspending the Constitution on the basis of his spurious claims of election fraud which numerous folks in his own admin repeatedly rebuked.

Spoiler

 

[Possum Jenkins]

You should put money on her since she's anywhere from 2-1 to 3-1 and post your betting slip. Sounds like easy money.

Nah, I've been saying that Trump has like a 60% chance of winning right now and that whoever wins, it'll be very tight.

I'm pointing out the positives of Kamala's campaign since the negatives are way too obvious and well-known (she was unpopular in the Dem primaries, she was unpopular as a VP, she's been handed a nomination she didn't earn, etc)

 

[Jacket time]

border czar

 

[Jacket time]

 

[Fluffernutter]

Question for US citizens. Can Harris bring in Sanders? I'm not from the states.

Can she? Yes. Will Sanders be her running mate? No.

With that said, there has been talk for years about Sanders being tabbed to run the Veterans' Administration.

 

[Lucas1980]

border czar

They no longer need to pander to the black voters so they are finding the new crop of "colored people" as they call them for future votes. Illegal Immigration hurts the minority communities the worse and they know it and don't care.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Hmmm only 1/3 of delegates have pledged for her. Gretchen bowing out sucks but kamala may have to do some politicking to get the nomination. Here's hoping someone challenges it

 

[Jacket time]

They no longer need to pander to the black voters so they are finding the new crop of "colored people" as they call them for future votes. Illegal Immigration hurts the minority communities the worse and they know it and don't care.

 

[heloder]

Harris/Kelly is the ticket to run with.

I like Pete more than Kelly but this isn’t the time.

Pete Buttigieg is charismatic, smart, and funny. He would body any of the corrupt retards the GOP has on the field.

 

[Lucas1980]

Pete Buttigieg is charismatic, smart, and funny. He would body any of the corrupt retards the GOP has on the field.

Jesus the fact that you said that and actually believe that is hysterical. Isn't Pete busy somewhere trying to chest feed "his" baby?

 

[Kingz]

Forgetting all the heels up Harris, Laffin Harris stuff.

Quite simply, she has no charisma and she is too far left.

She has supported open borders and giving services meant for citizens to illegals her entire career.

She supported and heloed bail out violent rioters. She is a race essentialist. Increasingly unpopular to be.

She supports abortion up until birth.

And most damning. She is a proponent of going full tilt into economy and Standard of living killing environmentalist policies.

She doesn’t have a mixed record of somewhat conservative stuff like Biden did to appeal to the states she needs to win. Her record is that of unabashed progressivism that is unpopular outside of a few fixed blue states.

and she can only get one VP to help her in one swing state..that’s not a guarantee to help her win that state as she’s still the top of the ticket and too far left.

The Biden admin is reeling because it was too far left.

 

[RoastBeast]

Why do you say that? What part do you disagree with? Earlier you didn't contest the timeline of events I laid out, that Trump organized a false slate of electors to try to overturn the 2020 election. Presumably I don't think you'd contest that Congressional Republicans refused to impeach Trump in the Senate or that the SCOTUS granted him immunity or that he handily won the GOP primary. If Congress won't hold him accountable after his coup attempt, SCOTUS has determined that he is largely above judicial review, and GOP voters happily granted him the nomination with zero resistance, who is there to hold Trump accountable should he win reelection?

Because the other side did not try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power and overturn a free and fair election and therefore there is no comparison between Trump and any other candidate. I don't agree with the vast majority of Pence's beliefs and policy preferences but had the GOP vaulted him to the top of their nomination for putting country over party I could not be making any of the arguments I now am. Instead of picking the guy who stood up to his boss for the sake of democracy they chose the guy who tried to overturn a free and fair election and has talked about suspending the Constitution on the basis of his spurious claims of election fraud which numerous folks in his own admin repeatedly rebuked.

Spoiler

That has nothing to do with my point. If you have two people, one is a murderer and the other is a child abuser, that doesn't mean that one person is evil and the other is just a run of the mill asshole. They're both evil.

Nearly all of our politicians are evil. They step on the necks of the people they are supposed to be working for in order to become rich and powerful.

 

[Lucas1980]

They're waking the hell up now and I hope its not to late for their sakes and we can close the borders ad start mass deportations of illegals soon enough.

 

[heloder]

Isn't Pete busy somewhere trying to chest feed "his" baby?

You're creepy...

 

[method115]

I’m surprised at how many people online are acting like this is good for the dems. The delusion/copium is real. They need to run goatsom

Of course this is good for the dems. They went from running with a dem that clearly has mental health issues to a person who can actually talk and form sentences without ending every sentence with "anyways".