Just re-watched GSP vs Hendricks:

IngaVovchanchyn said:
I like GSP better than Hendricks in pretty much every way possible, except sexually, because Bigg Rigg has that whole Leonidas thing going on. But Hendricks whooped his ass. People have spun it for years the other way, and along with the fact that the judges gave the fight to GSP, it has given the 1,3,5 crowd the upper hand. However, at the time, a large majority of people watching understood that Hendricks was robbed, and they were right.

GSP was a better fighter, seems to be a better person, probably runs a better restaurant, and was a better WW champ with a better MMA legacy. But he lost that fight on that night, judges notwithstanding.
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Hendricks did more damage in the rounds he won than gsp did. Thing is, they weren't 10-8 rounds and that's all that matters under the scoring system. It's pretty easy to score it two rounds each.

Its always come down to how you score round one. I can see why some have it to Hendricks, but people act like he dominated that round and he didn't. It was a close round, and easily the closest round of the fight.
 
FireKidWS said:
Slow down, I know this thread has been done a 100 times. But 99 times out of those 100, its full of useless shit talking about if GSP is the GOAT or not. Looking for actual talk about the fight. Specifically:

1) There's been talk of GSP lacking power, especially in that fight. Do you buy that?

2) GSP face looked much worse than Hendricks. I heard old scar tissue can cause that. What are your thoughts?

3) I thought Hendricks had been popped by USADA, but looking I cant find any records stating he has. Since speculation is illegal, ill ask it this way: Do you think the guys were on an even playing field supplement wise?

Finally, to discern a bit of bias, do you like Hendricks or GSP more?


Hoping to have an actual answers here and not 10 pages of memes.
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It comes entirely down to how you scored round 1. Rounds 2-4 were clear cut, each guy winning 2 rounds.
Round 1 was razor thin, one of the closest rounds you'll ever see in MMA. I personally scored it for GSP, but would not have been upset at all if Hendricks had gotten the nod.
 
sampuncher said:
I used to think Hendricks was a culprit, now i just think it was the IV ban that fucked him more.
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Yep, he honestly said the IV ban ruined him at WW, but he continued fighting under USADA and never got busted for anything, despite being tested for many fights.
 
1. GSP has never been known for KO power. That's not a surprise.

2. "How a fighter's face looks" is not part of judging criteria. You don't score a fight based on who looked worse at the end of it.

3. Hendricks is the epitome of a fighter going waaaaaaaaaaaaaay downhill after USADA. He went from champ at 170 to missing weight at 185. It's pretty obvious he was using before USADA and likely had been using since his highschool wrestling days. There will always be speculation over whether GSP was clean or not. He's always been vocal about his anti-doping stance, but some politicos who are the most homophobic turn out to be gay. Either way, there's nothing to prove he was clean or dirty. His career basically ended well before USADA was announced, and he did test clean his one fight under USADA, which he won. Even if they were both doping, you can't say it was an "even playing field" because you don't know what they were taking or how much they took.
 
Doug Money said:
Pig Rig is the poster boy for post usada downfalls. He most def was saucy for that fight and i think he started to come off whatever he was on during the Lawler bouts.
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There's zero evidence of that, just an opinion. It's just as likely that Usman is juicing now and just hasn't gotten caught.
 
mkt said:
Yep, he honestly said the IV ban ruined him at WW, but he continued fighting under USADA and never got busted for anything, despite being tested for many fights.
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Yeah somewhere in this thread I shared an article where he said he was tested 26 times in USADA and how much he relied on the IVs.

No doubt affected guys like Barao aswell probably, add that with TJ taking his soul aswell.
 
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sampuncher said:
I may be wrong but I remember Hendricks being weirdly uncomfortable with wanting to agree to stricter drug testing per GSPs request, I found it kinda weird then.

Scar Tissue is a legit excuse, look at any Nate, Bisping fight, sometimes guys just get opened up by anything, it doesnt have any correlation to how a fight should be scored.
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Any time your opponent is paying to have you tested, you better be super skeptical or you are a dumbass. It's why they have arms-length clauses typically used in contract law.
 
MMA compared to other sports is a much smaller circle. Fighters have themselves and training partners sometimes jump between gyms, trainers attend or run seminars and so on.
What I’m getting at is people talk, and word usually gets out about certain things - sometimes false speculation and sometimes truth.

I think that factored into GSP asking for stricter drug testing.
 
Mike said:
Gsp had decent power but not one shot ko power or anything. Facial damage is a pretty poor indicator of who won a fight. I think it's weird that people assume every single person that declined after usada was on roids. Dunno if Hendricks was or not.

Also, 1,3, 5 gsp AND STILL.
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I watched it a few times and thought giving GSP three rounds was fair. It was a close fight.
 
FireKidWS said:
Slow down, I know this thread has been done a 100 times. But 99 times out of those 100, its full of useless shit talking about if GSP is the GOAT or not. Looking for actual talk about the fight. Specifically:

1) There's been talk of GSP lacking power, especially in that fight. Do you buy that?

2) GSP face looked much worse than Hendricks. I heard old scar tissue can cause that. What are your thoughts?

3) I thought Hendricks had been popped by USADA, but looking I cant find any records stating he has. Since speculation is illegal, ill ask it this way: Do you think the guys were on an even playing field supplement wise?

Finally, to discern a bit of bias, do you like Hendricks or GSP more?


Hoping to have an actual answers here and not 10 pages of memes.
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in order:

1) hell no, lol. gsp has TONS of power. he has chosen to not punch with power, because the only way you can punch with power, is if you plant your feet long enough, for the power to transition from your feet, all the way through to your fists. the problem with this, is that it requires that you stay stationary in a certain position, which means you are susceptible to counters. that is one thing gsp wants to avoid at all costs, because he is scared to death of getting tko'd, post-serra.

2) it may be scar tissue, but more likely, it's because hendricks hit really fucking hard lol

3) i think both guys were clearly on something. gsp has been on something since his very first fight. i mean, come the fuck on. look at his physique, even when he fought menjivar. it wasn't normal then, and it isn't normal now.
 
1) I don't think GSP has a lot of power in his fists. It's probably average though because he's not pillow fisted.
2) Yup looks after the fight don't mean much. Look at my favourite guy Anderson Silva. Did he ever even bleed inside of the octagon? Just in the first Chael fight he received like 300+ punches and he still looked 10x better than GSP after the Hendricks fight.
3) Yeah I think they were on an even playing field. To quote Nate Diaz: "They're all on steroids".

Mike said:
Hendricks did more damage in the rounds he won than gsp did. Thing is, they weren't 10-8 rounds and that's all that matters under the scoring system. It's pretty easy to score it two rounds each.

Its always come down to how you score round one. I can see why some have it to Hendricks, but people act like he dominated that round and he didn't. It was a close round, and easily the closest round of the fight.
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It's the classic situation where Hendricks showed he was the better fighter that night, but going with the round based scoring system there's a stronger argument for a GSP win. Etching out 3 close rounds > winning two rounds convincingly. I'm not really a big fan of that but it is what it is.
 
sampuncher said:
Im not ruling it out purely because at least other guys in question like Weidman have got some wins since USADA.

It is a spectacular fall from grace to giving GSP his closest ever fight to getting KOd in BKFC ill give you that.
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KO by a gay pornstar
 
GSP's face was marked up against nick diaz as well. He has bad scar tissue. Nobody would say him being marked up made him lose the fight there.

Besides, we all know hendricks refused to do proper testing. We saw what happened when USADA came.
 
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