Just re-watched GSP vs Hendricks:

[campbecc]

Round 1 could go either way. GSP deserved the win because he dug deep to win round 5 in a close fight, Hendricks was lazy despite the fact his corner told him to go and win the championship.

 

[The Accuser]

Do you think the guys were on an even playing field supplement wise?

GSP voluntarily underwent enhanced WADA testing before the UFC introduced it for all fighters. Hendricks said he would do the same thing but then chickened out once GSP had started his testing program. Hendricks then had the fight of his life. Soon after the UFC introduced USADA and Hendricks couldn't make weight anymore and became a punching bag who couldn't win a round.

 

[mirko>anyone]

Definitely. At least the rematch was conclusive enough that you don't see as many threads on it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...t-pierre-johny-hendricks-drug-testing-gsp-ufc

Good memory. Interesting GSP also pushed for USADA yet GSP haters try and say USADA is why he stayed away for so long at the same time.

That article is an interesting read from both sides though.

I never bought that narrative either. GSP was clearly burnt out by 2013 and I think his performances, along with some serious injuries, reflected that. GSP is innocent until proven guilty. He's 40 years old now and still always looks the same. Just one of those guys with great genes, discipline, and an impeccable work ethic. I guess we will never know, but if you don't fail, you deserve the benefit of the doubt.

 

[acannxr]

1) There's been talk of GSP lacking power, especially in that fight. Do you buy that?

GSP has never really been a power puncher.

2) GSP face looked much worse than Hendricks. I heard old scar tissue can cause that. What are your thoughts?

GSP's face after he dominated Diaz; does this mean we should score Diaz as the winner?

3) I thought Hendricks had been popped by USADA, but looking I cant find any records stating he has. Since speculation is illegal, ill ask it this way: Do you think the guys were on an even playing field supplement wise?

Are you trying to get Sherdoggers a yellow card with this question?

Finally, to discern a bit of bias, do you like Hendricks or GSP more?

I'm not a fan of either of them.

The fight comes down to how you score the first round as the remaining four are easy to score two a piece; I personally have the first round and fight itself as a draw, but anyone calling the decision a robbery doesn't know what "robbery" means.

 

[Nelly]

I barely remember it because GSP fights put me to sleep.

As for #5..... Johnny may have won BUT, the old rule of, “You must beat the champ”. applies.

Yoel beat Robert the 2nd time but unfortunately it wasn’t enough to take a belt away.

A fair rule in my opinion.

That's a stupid rule that came from boxing because of corruption from judges. Why didn't that rule apply to BJ/Edgar 1, MM/Cejudo 2, or many other fights where champions lost a close decision?

 

[OrigFan255]

That's a stupid rule that came from boxing because of corruption from judges. Why didn't that rule apply to BJ/Edgar 1, MM/Cejudo 2, or many other fights where champions lost a close decision?

I am a sherdogger ......I dunno

 

[shankmcgank]

I barely remember it because GSP fights put me to sleep.

As for #5..... Johnny may have won BUT, the old rule of, “You must beat the champ”. applies.

Yoel beat Robert the 2nd time but unfortunately it wasn’t enough to take a belt away.

A fair rule in my opinion.

But it's NOT a rule, and fights are scored on a round-by-round basis.



Orange circle was done by another poster in another thread, but as you can see "you must beat the champ" isn't a rule, and fights arent scored on the whole.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I like GSP better than Hendricks in pretty much every way possible, except sexually, because Bigg Rigg has that whole Leonidas thing going on. But Hendricks whooped his ass. People have spun it for years the other way, and along with the fact that the judges gave the fight to GSP, it has given the 1,3,5 crowd the upper hand. However, at the time, a large majority of people watching understood that Hendricks was robbed, and they were right.

GSP was a better fighter, seems to be a better person, probably runs a better restaurant, and was a better WW champ with a better MMA legacy. But he lost that fight on that night, judges notwithstanding.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

I believe Hendricks was on the gear the same way Weidman was on the gear.

 

[OrigFan255]

But it's NOT a rule, and fights are scored on a round-by-round basis.

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Orange circle was done by another poster in another thread, but as you can see "you must beat the champ" isn't a rule, and fights arent scored on the whole.

No need to get a rule list.
What I meant was, rule as in unwritten
The way we engage with others has many unwritten rules.... Usually referred to as common sense.

 

[SKITZADACTYL]

Hendricks retired GSP at the young age of 32

poor kid is still haunted by the fact that GSP is the GOAT, you gotta start feeling bad for your level of delusion eventually.

 

[markys00]

What a coincidence. Your inability to spell out words correctly and improper and grammatical misuse of ellipsis makes me think you may be ignorant as well.

Media scoring for Hendricks: 22
Media scoring for GSP: 3, and that includes one outlet giving him round 4 (lol)

lol ur dumb

 

[sampuncher]

because Bigg Rigg has that whole Leonidas thing going on.

 

[markys00]

To a lesser extent, Machida/Shogun 1 experienced a similar aging shift. I actually have watched it without audio, still think Shogun won. I won't refute the biased commentary though.

i was there live. too much goes into the booing. most of the crowd thought it was too close to call. most seemed to be pissed that it was a ud instead of split (which doesnnt make sense either, but different crowd at the time iguess) but u also cant really go by that either...

 

[Masturbin]

Hendricks is just as clean and failled as many drug test as Gsp aka 0

 

[sampuncher]

I never thought of that but it makes sense. he had some crazy tough weight cuts.

https://www.mmamania.com/2018/9/24/...da-didnt-allow-me-be-best-as-welterweight-mma

Literally what we were talking about yesterday. Hendricks got tested 26 times and never popped he's very open about how much he relied on IV's.

Dude walks around 210 and was trying to drop 40 pounds, no wonder he never made weight.

 

[omawho402]

GSP won the MMA match, but Hendricks won the fight. Ergo GSP is the winner, war GSP

 

[GutterSniper]

I’m Canadian, so obviously I’m biased.

Big Rigg beat GSP up and would have won under Pride rules, but GSP won rounds 1,3,5 to keep the belt.

That being said, Hendricks was clearly saucy. Ridiculous power, speed, stamina and durability, and dropped off the charts after USADA. He was nothing without his advantages from IVs and your guess is as good as mine as to what else he was taking. I will note that steroids tend to give people amazing chins...think about what that does for your confidence along with the rest of it.

 

[mirko>anyone]

i was there live. too much goes into the booing. most of the crowd thought it was too close to call. most seemed to be pissed that it was a ud instead of split (which doesnnt make sense either, but different crowd at the time iguess) but u also cant really go by that either...

Oh. So most of the crowd was pissed because it was a unanimous decision instead of a split decision? That’s why they were pissed?

I can see why it doesn’t make sense to you. I can see why most things don’t quite add up for you.

 

[suffersystem]

GSP looked very human in this fight, and Hendricks won his rounds obviously where GSP won them slightly.

Two things though:

1) The first round was extremely close and could have gone to either guy

2) Had Hendricks not taken the fifth round off he would have won the fight.

Personally I think GSP won the first round, and therefore the fight, though I completely udnerstand those who would say Hendricks won the first, so it was extremely close and noweher near a robbery. Had Hendricks kept it up in the fifth he would have beaten him though I think, he just took his foot off the gas and let GSP steal that round and therefore the fight.

People forget this isn't judged as a whole, it is like 5 mini fights, and you get the ebst out of 5. GSP just happened to pull it off a bit more, while like I said Hendrick won his rounds by a much lager margin, he just didn't win enough rounds.