Just re-watched GSP vs Hendricks:

[FloydMayweatherMMA]

I barely remember it because GSP fights put me to sleep.

As for #5..... Johnny may have won BUT, the old rule of, “You must beat the champ”. applies.

Yoel beat Robert the 2nd time but unfortunately it wasn’t enough to take a belt away.

A fair rule in my opinion.

It's a shame they didn't apply that to DJ vs CCC

 

[Straatblaffer]

Slow down brother!
Scoring and judging is subjective.... It shouldn’t be but the fact that 2 professional judges score a fight exactly the opposite says it is subjective.

It merely says the judges are bad. Cris Lee for instance is horrific. He's the one that gave Felder the win v RDA and is responsible for the majority of crazy split desicions lately. It's open for interpretation sometimes, but calling it subjective means the rules don't matter

 

[sampuncher]

He had excellent leg kick and punch combinations. He was also extremely strong in the clinch. He had some of the best dirty boxing in the UFC at the time. Self discipline has nothing to do with his fighting skills in the octagon

Youve just said a load of things he was good at, im not saying he was a bad fighter but most complete WW ever is a bit of a stretch and self discipline is of course an aspect which makes you a fighter, if he couldnt be disciplined it would have effected his cardio for starters.

Like I said he never used his BJJ, he was also quite hittable, he was a great fighter but I dont think he was the most complete ever. He definitely had flaws and it was evident in some of his losses, good point with the dirty boxing, I forgot how good he was at that though

Its hard to say he was the most complete WW ever when he was never the best at anything.

 

[mirko>anyone]

ur last sentence makes u sound dumb and ignorant, and basically makes all ur points invalid....

and back to the thread

either guy could have won that night. i thought hendricks deserved the win, but its no robbery. i was on the verge on calling it a robbery that night, but i knew it wasnt. its just that we never seen gsp meet his match so closely ever before really.. hughes and serra losses arent very good examples.

man, i like gsp more overall, but when rigg was in his prime i think i was rooting for him to the win that night. gsp might the best ever, despite his losses, although jones might be ahead of him at this point and if khabib keeps going he could easily surpass him

What a coincidence. Your inability to spell out words correctly and improper and grammatical misuse of ellipsis makes me think you may be ignorant as well.

Media scoring for Hendricks: 22
Media scoring for GSP: 3, and that includes one outlet giving him round 4 (lol)

 

[sampuncher]

What a coincidence. Your inability to spell out words correctly and improper and grammatical misuse of ellipsis makes me think you may be ignorant as well.

Media scoring for Hendricks: 22
Media scoring for GSP: 3, and that includes one outlet giving him round 4 (lol)

I get your point but im always a bit meh about the media scores, may aswell have asked a bunch of Sherdoggers. Just as qualified.

 

[mmathurbator]

I used to think Hendricks was a culprit, now i just think it was the IV ban that fucked him more.

I never thought of that but it makes sense. he had some crazy tough weight cuts.

 

[TrueTemper]

I may be wrong but I remember Hendricks being weirdly uncomfortable with wanting to agree to stricter drug testing per GSPs request, I found it kinda weird then.

Scar Tissue is a legit excuse, look at any Nate, Bisping fight, sometimes guys just get opened up by anything, it doesnt have any correlation to how a fight should be scored.

I think that Hendricks' camp wanted WADA, and GSP's wanted VADA.

 

[Ridgeback]

GSP won and I know this because if he was hurt EVEN A LITTLE that Canadian nerd would have been tapping furiously...
<Lmaoo>

 

[revoltub]

Ive never seen people go so hard trying to defend a decision that their guy ended up getting. Reeks of doubt.

It is a robbery that was never in question until the last few years in which gsp fans have hiveminded their way into a false memory.

 

[HP_Nut]

I'm Canadian, was in a fully packed bar in Toronto Canada, we (everyone in the bar) all thought he lost that night. However, even though I believe he lost that fight, I still have him as the overall GOAT. A loss to prime Hendricks doesn't change my overall opinion of GSP as the overall GOAT. His overall resume & how he dominated/performed in the bulk of his career more than makes up for that loss IMO

 

[mirko>anyone]

I get your point but im always a bit meh about the media scores, may aswell have asked a bunch of Sherdoggers. Just as qualified.

It's been argued endlessly for 7 years. At this point, we all have our opinions and they won't change now. The majority of fans and media felt Hendricks won, and that's why we still talk about it today. I've seen the fight countless times and think Hendricks won each time. Like a said, I'm a big Georges fan, and in the grand scheme of things, this fight doesn't define his legacy or anything like that. I also don't feel sorry for Hendricks because he decided to coast the final round, even though I don't think he needed it to win 3 rounds.

 

[mirko>anyone]

Ive never seen people go so hard trying to defend a decision that their guy ended up getting. Reeks of doubt.

It is a robbery that was never in question until the last few years in which gsp fans have hiveminded their way into a false memory.

Wanted to bring this up as well, but I didn't feel like tackling that shit storm. Just read a bunch of threads from 2013 and they paint an entirely different picture.

 

[Liquid Samurai]

I remember watching it with an old friend who was a huge GSP fan. Didn't have a dog in the fight, didn't really care who won, I didn't like Hendricks, and GSP just wasn't my cup of tea. I remember thinking after the fight that GSP had just lost, but I didn't want to say anything to my friend, who also had a serious look of concern on his face. When the decision came down, I remember thinking what a bunch of bullshit, and my friend was acting like he knew GSP had won all along, which I knew was even more BS.

 

[revoltub]

Wanted to bring this up as well, but I didn't feel like tackling that shit storm. Just read a bunch of threads from 2013 and they paint an entirely different picture.

Here is a good article that goes through how other fighters reacted to the result.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2013/11...core-controversial-georges-st-pierre-vs-johny

 

[mirko>anyone]

Here is a good article that goes through how other fighters reacted to the result.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2013/11...core-controversial-georges-st-pierre-vs-johny

To a lesser extent, Machida/Shogun 1 experienced a similar aging shift. I actually have watched it without audio, still think Shogun won. I won't refute the biased commentary though.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Slow down, I know this thread has been done a 100 times. But 99 times out of those 100, its full of useless shit talking about if GSP is the GOAT or not. Looking for actual talk about the fight. Specifically:

1) There's been talk of GSP lacking power, especially in that fight. Do you buy that?

2) GSP face looked much worse than Hendricks. I heard old scar tissue can cause that. What are your thoughts?

3) I thought Hendricks had been popped by USADA, but looking I cant find any records stating he has. Since speculation is illegal, ill ask it this way: Do you think the guys were on an even playing field supplement wise?

Finally, to discern a bit of bias, do you like Hendricks or GSP more?


Hoping to have an actual answers here and not 10 pages of memes.

1- GSP has power but not "I'll take your head off" kind of power. At least, if he has it, he doesn't use it often

2- GSP always bruised easily. Against Diaz, he looked like shit, but still kicked Nick Diaz's ass for 25 minutes. Go figure.

3- He never officially got caught, but I think it's pretty clear that he was on something. Look at his record before and after GSP's fight...

GSP is my favorite fighter ever, I have him as the GOAT.

As far as the fight goes: It's pretty equal: both fighter have 2 rounds (Hendricks has 2-4 and GSP 3-5). It depends to who you give the 1st. I'm less shocked by GSP's victory than by Jones victory over Reyes.

 

[revoltub]

To a lesser extent, Machida/Shogun 1 experienced a similar aging shift.

Definitely. At least the rematch was conclusive enough that you don't see as many threads on it.

 

[Usurper123]

GSP fan, GSP doesn't throw power, unless given the opportunity he doesn't go looking for it. In many of his fights he dominates so much his opponents tend to fight more defensive which leave less openings.

By looking at both of them you would think it was a blowout for Hendricks, but if you rewatch the fight scoring rounds, GSP clearly won 3 and 5. Round 1 is debatable but having rewatched it I would have given it to the long time champ.

I find some people cut easily others don't GSP bruises and cuts easily. Another fighter who cuts easily as an example is Fedor, a fighter who dons't cut easily is Anderson Silva

Hendricks was probably on roids, given how he was smashing everyone before and couldn't win a fight after? but who knows.

 

[sampuncher]

I think that Hendricks' camp wanted WADA, and GSP's wanted VADA.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...t-pierre-johny-hendricks-drug-testing-gsp-ufc

Good memory. Interesting GSP also pushed for USADA yet GSP haters try and say USADA is why he stayed away for so long at the same time.

That article is an interesting read from both sides though.

 

[EVIL WAR GOD]

I was a massive GSP hater and I thought he won that fight at the time. I don’t mind him now. Don’t ask, it’s a Canadian thing.