Law Judge Rules Everyone in the Country Illegally Must Register with the Government by Friday

[Andy Capp]

News flash, but provisions Republicans demanded in the ACA, and their unwillingness to participate, is what made the ACA bad. For example, this stuff:


To the other issue, I didn’t say Reagan, I said trickle down economics. Regan did it, Bush did it, Trump did it (and is about to do it again).

50 years of tax cuts for the rich failed to trickle down, economics study says

Tax cuts for the wealthy didn't boost the economies of the U.S. and 17 other countries — but they did worsen income inequality.

www.cbsnews.com

Trickle down economics has caused massive income inequality.
“Per capita gross domestic product and unemployment rates were nearly identical after five years in countries that slashed taxes on the rich and in those that didn't, the study found.

But the analysis discovered one major change: The incomes of the rich grew much faster in countries where tax rates were lowered. Instead of trickling down to the middle class, tax cuts for the rich may not accomplish much more than help the rich keep more of their riches and exacerbate income inequality, the research indicates.”

It never makes sense to vote for this if you are a middle class or poor person. It never made sense to vote for tariffs if you want lower prices lmao, but you still can’t wrap your head around that either.

And in my country, the right wing turnip heads want to do the same--cut taxes for the wealthy and cut programs for the poor. It's nauseating how people eat that shit with a grin.

 

[deviake]

And in my country, the right wing turnip heads want to do the same--cut taxes for the wealthy and cut programs for the poor. It's nauseating how people eat that shit with a grin.

It seems to be a worldwide phenomenon from what I gather.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Don’t you think MAGA acts like the victim more than anyone else though? Whining how every country is mean to us, saying there’s a war on Christmas despite it being celebrated by the vast majority of Americans, acting like whites have it bad when they probably still have it better than anyone else, etc. It’s so annoying watching the group that holds more power than ever still complaining about everything.

Come on man; that's a shit take.

They were annoyed when academia started saying CE instead of AD and the schools started saying winter break instead of Christmas, but working class whites got tired of being told that they were racist and have privilege. They got mad at being told it wasn't a big deal for their daughters to change in a room full of swinging dicks and being brow-beat into pretending little boys were actually little girls.

MAGA whines about letting other countries take advantage of us - they don't care who is "mean" to us.

 

[kflo]

Why isn't Trump making child molesters and rapist turn themselves in?

Anyone who has done something illegal please register. Just so we know…….

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Yeah so they'd know where they're all living and come round them up

- It's a pretty smart plan actually!

 

[LeonardoBjj]

So, they would need to hunt down Trump?

- Or Lesnar, Vince Mac, Tyson and Mctapper!

 

[avenue94]

They wanted the voters to stay dumb enough to buy that immigration is good for the working class forever. Fair play to them, the shit worked out longer than it should have. People are finally starting to realize that bringing a bunch of people over that are conditioned to accept low pay and poor working conditions isn't a good thing. It's a tool they've used constantly for decades to keep wages and benefits for the working class criminally low.


Oh no who's going to clean toilets or do landscaping for $5 an hour now! Maybe nobody. Maybe we shouldn't fucking have anyone working for wages that are criminally below the already abysmal minimum wage. If a job can't even pay a worker minimum wage that job can go away. We don't need to import people to "do the jobs nobody wants to do"

There are no jobs nobody wants to do, just wages nobody wants to work for because they would like to be able to pay rent and eat without having 14 roommates.

This has been studied extensively, natives and immigrants don't usually compete for the same jobs. You can also see this reflected in how tight the labor market is, there are millions of Americans trying to work jobs that America has used immigrants for historically.

 

[avenue94]

Man, you can't keep blaming Reagan. Reagan isn't the guy who raised my taxes. Reagan isn't the guy who made my health care unaffordable. Reagan isn't the guy who removed the property tax cap in my state. We have had 6 presidential admins since Reagan, most of them 2 termers. You're telling me that even if Reagan were to blame for this, there's literally nothing any admin can do to make things easier for the working man? You're telling me Reagan is responsible for the massive mismanagement of our tax dollars on 2025? Come on.
The Reagan era was an era of great prosperity for the US. NAFTA, Obamacare etc did more to fuck over the working man than anything Reagan could have dreamed of.

Why are you whining about presidents when discussing property taxes and immigrants? Neither has anything to do with setting those rates.

 

[Seano]

I come from working class roots and at the end of the day I'm a relatively simple man. I work hard, I'm honest I show up on time etc. When times get bad my only idea usually is to double down, work more. Work harder. When I moved here in 2018 I thought I was finally gonna get my life back on track. Lots of jobs paying a living wage, easy to get because they're unpleasant. Until Covid it was actually going pretty good. Got my credit cleaned up, bought a car. Started seeing a man when I looked in the mirror again. I put in the effort, and it was paying off and I could even feel pride because it was all due to my own hard work and sacrifices. Even got sober.

But ever since Covid it's like being a rat in a maze. Wages keep going up but my buying power doesn't. And I have to keep doing worse and more difficult work, and for longer hours and at night. All I do is work and drink. Big chunks of the year I never see the sun. Sometimes I get so depressed I think fuck it I'm just going to quit. But then I remember I've spent the last 2 years trying to get economically back on track after spending just 6 months working at a non labor job. It just isn't possible to make it unless I run myself through a woodchipper every day. I thought this was gonna be my chance to start over. Have something just for me. That working so hard and so tirelessly was finally gonna get me somewhere.


But my quality of life is only going down, and I doubt what I'm doing to myself is even sustainable in the long term.

I'm getting by but its a lot harder than it was just a few years ago. My entire raise last year was eaten up by increase in health and dental. I take home a few dollars less than I did the same time last year.

 

[BFoe]

Well I think that's the point. They want to deter future illegal immigration.

No problem with legal immigrants.

This just isn’t true though. Everyone who used the CBP One app to schedule an appointment to enter the country at a designated port of entry did so legally—and Trump has just revoked their legal status. In fact, he’s had his administration list thousands of them (who are very much alive) as dead, cancelling their social security numbers to drive them out of the country. He revoked the TPS status of Cubans, Haitians, and Venezuelans.

This whole party line about how they’re A-OK with legal immigrants is an outright lie. The MAGA movement is a racist, white nationalist movement that envisions America with no room for immigrants or minorities.

Yeah sure 2018 and 2019 were good years for me. It was all going well until Covid but ever since every year just gets worse and worse. I haven't seen any signs life is ever going to go back to how it was. This appears to be the new normal.

I definitely agree that COVID was one of those events that fundamentally changed our society, like 9/11, or the Vietnam War.
I have seen some signs that things are better, mainly in the form of lowered prices and increased availability on some imported things—well, before the Trump tariffs of course. Prices will never drop to what they were, and you can run into real problems if you attack the issue from the price side instead of the worker wage side.

Anyhow, whether we vote R, D, or some other thing, trickle down economics should never be allowed to happen. It’s destroyed the middle class.

This is absolutely true however the Dems stemming the bleeding and keeping the train on the tracks isn't enough and has clearly not shown to motivate their base enough to show up for them consistently and the lesson they seem to be taking from that is that they need to move further right. It's still been getting harder for the average person regardless of who's in power. Every time Republicans are in power they step on the gas and ratchet the country to the right and we never seem to get back to the original starting position. Trump is the result of decades of neoliberal politics and that wasn't all Republicans (not to mention Obama once said by the standards of the 80s he'd be a moderate Republican).

I mean shit -- the biggest healthcare reform we've had in modern times was Romneycare and Biden said he'd veto universal healthcare if it hit his desk. UHC is a basic function in every other developed nation on earth and it's too left for the Democrats. That is insane.

As an aside, I also don't think our traditional metrics for measuring economic health are terribly relevant for how the average person is doing in a country, mentally nor materially.

Agreed. Neither side does nearly enough for healthcare, and I haven’t even seen a reasonable idea from the Republican side. I really liked Pete’s Medicare For All Who Want It plan, I hope we revisit that at some point. The DNC has a real problem letting go of old, geriatric establishment type candidates. Hopefully they are on the way out.

It’s definitely a frustrating time. Progress is never a straight line, but we have really lost the information war, and conservative Americans have really been conditioned for regressive, authoritarian leadership. Very tough to break through that.

 

[Hog-train]

This just isn’t true though. Everyone who used the CBP One app to schedule an appointment to enter the country at a designated port of entry did so legally—and Trump has just revoked their legal status. In fact, he’s had his administration list thousands of them (who are very much alive) as dead, cancelling their social security numbers to drive them out of the country. He revoked the TPS status of Cubans, Haitians, and Venezuelans.

Why isn't the administration allowed to revoke the TEMPORARY status of these individuals?

Key word: temporary. There was never any promise to allow them a green card. Biden's more open border policies allowed this to happen and Trump just wants to reverse it.

And for the record, the majority of Venezuelans still came here ILLEGALLY and not at legal ports of entry.

 

[BFoe]

Why isn't the administration allowed to revoke the TEMPORARY status of these individuals?

Key word: temporary. There was never any promise to allow them a green card. Biden's more open border policies allowed this to happen and Trump just wants to reverse it.

And for the record, the majority of Venezuelans still came here ILLEGALLY and not at legal ports of entry.

The administration may be *allowed to, but then they shouldn’t act like they value legal immigration when they clearly don’t. They don’t even value birthright citizenship as defined in the Constitution. Let’s just drop that bullshit pretense.

 

[badascan]

Mass deportation! When's that happening?...

And why would illegals sign up for this? Unless it allows them to be vetted more quickly and given some kind of slightly expedited path to becoming a citizen?

 

[Crazy Source]

The administration may be *allowed to, but then they shouldn’t act like they value legal immigration when they clearly don’t. They don’t even value birthright citizenship as defined in the Constitution. Let’s just drop that bullshit pretense.

Tough on, eh?

 

[Siver!]

This should count as -1 on the yellow card count IMO

 

[Mr Holmes]

Mass deportation! When's that happening?...

And why would illegals sign up for this? Unless it allows them to be vetted more quickly and given some kind of slightly expedited path to becoming a citizen?

Hopefully there's an expedited process for removing the ones that don't register.

 

[Mike]

Yeah the idea that the economy truly recovered after Covid is insane. It didn't and you can tell from the fact all food and retail products now cost about 30% more, and housing is like 40% more. People have terrible memory or they never bothered looking at their receipts before.

The issue was the money printing. The Fed printed about $4.5 trillion out of thin air during the scamdemic, devaluing the currency. If you had hard assets like property, you saw your assets go "up" in value to match inflation. If someone didn't have any assets, there was nothing to insulate them from it. The gap between rich and poor grew from that alone and we're not getting into everything else that happened.

Wages since Covid are most definitely up, for some people lucky enough to be in industries where Covid actually lead to increased profit and demand. People like myself. I'm part of the blue collar demographic in the shipping/manufacturing sector that "rode the wave" during and post Covid. We were on some Littlefinger "chaos is a ladder" kind of shit. Taking the jobs nobody wants to do that were seeing record level demand, and as a result raising their wage and benefits packages. We tried to use this as an opportunity to move a rung up the ladder, into the lower middle class. We took all the bootstraps shit to heart, and actually went and did what everyone said you're supposed to do.


I've met many people here that migrated out here like I did around the same time I did. People moving thousands of miles on word that there are jobs and opportunities here. Now nearly a decade later, we've seen wave after wave of inflation just destroy all the progress we made by moving out here. I look around and rent prices are about 50% higher than they were when I got here. Food prices are much higher. Gas prices and the prices of nearly all goods and services really. I'm having to redo the math every year. Ok we got a 10% raise company wide again this year and we hit the targets for both of our bonuses. Fuck yeah!


Did the combined price of my rent and everything else I need to pay for go up more than ten percent this year? Oh it did? Am I doing physical and mental damage to myself on a daily basis just to maintain the quality of life I do have? Oh I am? Are wages in other sectors improving enough for me to get out of this situation? Not even a little? Well fuck. And it's much worse for the people that didn't see regular boosts to their income to go along with the inflation. It's wild to me that people have these talking points they want to spin that we're doing better economically now. I guess that's why all these young people are making videos on social media sobbing in their cars once they realize they're stuck working 60 hours a week to live in a tiny apartment for the rest of their lives.

 

[Mike]

This just isn’t true though. Everyone who used the CBP One app to schedule an appointment to enter the country at a designated port of entry did so legally—and Trump has just revoked their legal status. In fact, he’s had his administration list thousands of them (who are very much alive) as dead, cancelling their social security numbers to drive them out of the country. He revoked the TPS status of Cubans, Haitians, and Venezuelans.

This whole party line about how they’re A-OK with legal immigrants is an outright lie. The MAGA movement is a racist, white nationalist movement that envisions America with no room for immigrants or minorities.



I definitely agree that COVID was one of those events that fundamentally changed our society, like 9/11, or the Vietnam War.
I have seen some signs that things are better, mainly in the form of lowered prices and increased availability on some imported things—well, before the Trump tariffs of course. Prices will never drop to what they were, and you can run into real problems if you attack the issue from the price side instead of the worker wage side.

Anyhow, whether we vote R, D, or some other thing, trickle down economics should never be allowed to happen. It’s destroyed the middle class.


Agreed. Neither side does nearly enough for healthcare, and I haven’t even seen a reasonable idea from the Republican side. I really liked Pete’s Medicare For All Who Want It plan, I hope we revisit that at some point. The DNC has a real problem letting go of old, geriatric establishment type candidates. Hopefully they are on the way out.

It’s definitely a frustrating time. Progress is never a straight line, but we have really lost the information war, and conservative Americans have really been conditioned for regressive, authoritarian leadership. Very tough to break through that.

The problem is the cover and corporations aren't in it for the well being of the people. Every crisis is manipulated and used as an opportunity to further the wage gap. Just look at how they did what they always do with covid. Bunch of corporations swooped in and bought up a lot of the housing. They got the workforce used to a higher base pay, but with 25 to 50% more worked hours being mandatory for the increased wage in many fields.

Housing proces have people moving back in with their parents or getting roommates despite already being overworked. They use this shit as an opportunity to tighten the noose a little more. I wonder how many people grinded their ass off for most of the last decade like I did, just to wake up one day and realize it's all a big fucking game and we're on a hamster wheel not going anywhere.


The people that aren't strongly attached to either party really feel like there's no point. Both parties seem to want to manipulate these situations to make themselves and their corporate backers rich at our expense. Who do I vote in to "fix this mess" We just had Dems in power and it doesn't feel like things improved at all under their leadership imo. A lot of these stats that show things are better are heavily manipulated and there is a LOT of civil unrest that is being swept under the rug.

 

[Mike]

I'm getting by but its a lot harder than it was just a few years ago. My entire raise last year was eaten up by increase in health and dental. I take home a few dollars less than I did the same time last year.

Literally everything is more expensive for me now than pre covid, but housing is the worst. I know housing prices are bad everywhere, but it feels particularly bad in Reno.

That's one issue that doesn't get talked about enough, is all the companies buying up housing during covid. And using it as an opportunity to piece gouge the shit out of people. Out here, a lot of people are living in extended stays, motel rooms, "studios" that are just motel rooms etc.
Part of the reason I took the shitty job I have now is I was in debt and living in a motel room someone renovated into a studio. Paying over $1100 a month to live in a tiny room with no oven, just a fridge and microwave.


The apartment I'm in now is slightly further from the very worst part of the ghetto, and is $1250 a month for a one bedroom. Getting a place that's actually out of the hood seems like it's closer to the 2k range, which is just insane to me. I don't want to get trapped paying 50 or 60% of my income for rent again

 

[Mike]

This has been studied extensively, natives and immigrants don't usually compete for the same jobs. You can also see this reflected in how tight the labor market is, there are millions of Americans trying to work jobs that America has used immigrants for historically.

Maybe for you they don't. I've literally lived next to them my entire life and they've always been competition for work. Often illegal, under the table competition I can't reasonably compete with.

Having an abundant source of illegal labor lowers wages and benefits for legal workers. And it's a bit elitist to say oh Americans don't want these jobs. Yeah man there are Americans that need entry level work. Always have been and always will be. Constantly flooding the market with people that will work for a ham sandwich isn't really helping us out.

As someone that's been working class my entire life, I can tell you we've also been out working these jobs historically too lmao. I'm tired of this who will do the crap jobs for low pay argument. Maybe nobody will if we stop importing the third world to do it, and acting like that's a necessity or something that's good for the economy.

It's good for the corporations that are still making record profits while working class people are getting held down and gang banged, sure lmao. Not everyone thinks having a serf subclass is this amazing thing or that it's vital that we keep doing it because we have been doing it.