Some of us set a precedence where we praise fighters more for not losing than for taking a chance and seeing how far they can go at the risk of failing. Khabib is a great example and Jon paid close attention to this.
Right, there's just so little to gain against Tom and Sergei and like I said before, there's a precedence now where NOT losing is even more emphasized, sometimes overshadowing a greater list of accomplishments in exchange for a few losses.
Losses used to not weigh in as heavily. This is the "protect your legacy" approach. I can't help but think that how much praise Khabib got played a part in all of this. I know that's not gonna be a popular opinion and I'm likely to get some shit for it, but oh well. When you objectively look at the whole picture from a distance, you can see it.
The fans are partially at fault here.
Some of us set a precedence where we praise fighters more for not losing than for taking a chance and seeing how far they can go at the risk of failing. Khabib is a great example and Jon paid close attention to this.
Why would fighters wanna take that chance then if it's gonna be so costly.
Yes. Because in retrospect the win should have aged better, but did it? Nope, still more "he's too green for the win to matter". Had someone beat Jones early in his career (Hamill doesn't count), people would respect that win. I'm just saying how fickle people are with prospects with Gane as example and Aspinall or Pav wouldn't be different in aftermath. It's just strange how people twist everything once someone loses. Beating Ngannou is the only name that matters on Jones resume after Stipe. Although I guess if Jones broke Stipe's defense record the resume doesn't matter and Jones could fight both back to back and tie it.Really? You are really gonna suggest that when Overeem beat Pav at his debut would be the same as if Jon would beat him after Pav has gone on an insane winning streak full of KOs, in the UFC, and that if Jon would beat Aspinall, it would be the same as Blaydes winning by freak injury?
And people are still praising Overeem retroactively over that win, BTW.
Jones and Dana are pushing that narrative hard. Jones even went to a PFL event to face off with Ngannou and pretend like he wanted that fight. Where was that energy while Ngannou was still in the UFC?LOL and Jones' fans want others to believe that he would have definitely fought Francis.
LOL and Jones' fans want others to believe that he would have definitely fought Francis.
Francis also had insane power.Francis had the belt, was regarded as #1 and had questionable Grappling.
Yeah it makes sense for Jones to pick the easiest opponent, just like it makes sense for MMA fans to call out his blatant ducking.Pav and Aspinall are both legit contenders but to the average fan they don't have much name value compared to Stipe and when you add in the fact that at this point Stipe is arguably the easiest fight of the three for Jones why would he take anything else?
Was also clearly highly faded during the encounter.Jones and Dana are pushing that narrative hard. Jones even went to a PFL event to face off with Ngannou and pretend like he wanted that fight. Where was that energy while Ngannou was still in the UFC?
Sounds like Champ talk. Uncle Chael even mentioned that Bones was going to fight PavSounds like duck talk to me.
Well said! Couldn’t agree more!I think Jones would fight either guy, but lets be real. When Pavlovich lost, Overeem isn't looked up to because of the win. When Aspinall lost, Blaydes isn't considered top tier either. They are fights that if Jones wins can be dismissed as beating nobodies. He beat Gane yet now Gane was a white belt. If he beats Stipe, he's beat the best UFC HW with about the same mileage as himself.
Lol at ducking. Seems like you don’t understand what a business is about. The UFC makes his decisions!Francis also had insane power.
Yeah it makes sense for Jones to pick the easiest opponent, just like it makes sense for MMA fans to call out his blatant ducking.
LOL Jones called out Stipe much before the UFC made the decision.The UFC makes his decisions!
i’m convinced he would have beaten nggano, easily, just like he beat cyrille. he would probably beat aspinall and pav too. fwiw, stipe has a great shot against either of those guys as well.Can't call yourself the heavyweight GOAT then, and people think he would have fought Ngannou lol