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Jones has no chance against Gane

He certainly has a better chance than you and I, Shermano.
PEDs or not
 
Gane is better than Jones in standup, but nowhere else, Jones better in clinch, grappling, gnp and Submission.

I am not sure if Jones wins but he for sure has a good chance to win.
 
Ah 10 years later, sherbros still latching on "insert name will beat Jones".
GOAT Jones is GOAT.
Even if he loses, like Fedor, legacy is already cemented.
 
Jones is of course one of the GOATs but I think top-level HWs (Francis, Ciryl, and possible even Stipe) will be too big against him.

MWs can go up to LHW and find success (Anderson, Santos, Smith), but LHW to HW is too big a hurdle for most (see Maldonado v Miocic - granted worst Jones is still lightyears better than Maldonado on his best day ever).
 
and there's lots of reasons to assume gane's TDD is so improved without actually seeing it. nice try slick, not exactly too 'insightful' there either.

jones beat guys everywhere the fight went. like i said, not a fan, but he would figure gane out as well.

Have you seen Jones' last 2 fights? Apparently not.
 
No, he doesn't not. At least not a very good one.

But that is why Jon is campaigning hard to fight.....Stipe, lol.
 
Jones could barely hold Reyes down, who knows how his strength will be when he has to wrestle full on heavyweights? If you think Jon can improve in certain areas in his move to heavyweight, you should give the same chance to Gane to improve his wrestling after Ngannou taught him a lesson. I'm pretty sure he's put serious work into improving after he got handled there.
Jones at his absolute dire in need of dick pills state is a better wrestler than Big Frank. He has infinitely more trips and throws and offensive in your constant head tactics. Trying to erase the fact Jones has been a proven wrestler his whole career due to mediocre wrestling against Reyes which actually won him the fight is plain ol hate
 
Jones at his absolute dire in need of dick pills state is a better wrestler than Big Frank. He has infinitely more trips and throws and offensive in your constant head tactics. Trying to erase the fact Jones has been a proven wrestler his whole career due to mediocre wrestling against Reyes which actually won him the fight is plain ol hate

Of course Jones is a great wrestler over his whole career but we still don't know if that will scale up to heavyweight. For example just look at how Khabib ragdolled people at lightweight, he wouldn't have been able to do that at welterweight to Usman.

Everyone has their limits so let's see how Jones does fighting at heavyweight, I certainly don't think he's going to have all the advantages he had at light heavyweight. Remains to be seen.
 
I’ll be amazed if John ever fights again n if he does I will be double amazed if his opponent is younger than 39.

wouldn’t be surprised if this bulk up of his was for dubya dubya E all along. I think Conor might be building up dat WWE bod too.
 
Of course Jones is a great wrestler over his whole career but we still don't know if that will scale up to heavyweight. For example just look at how Khabib ragdolled people at lightweight, he wouldn't have been able to do that at welterweight to Usman.

Everyone has their limits so let's see how Jones does fighting at heavyweight, I certainly don't think he's going to have all the advantages he had at light heavyweight. Remains to be seen.
So your honest take is Frank is probably a better wrestler than Jones lol?
 
If Jones does actually come back there is no way he sticks around long enough to do a Gane fight. Jones is in for 1 or 2 fights tops.
 
So your honest take is Frank is probably a better wrestler than Jones lol?

No but he was 30+ lbs bigger in the fight vs Gane than you've ever seen Jones fight at, that counts for something.
 
Unless Cyril becomes champ

Jones has nothing to Gane in taking that fight
 
No but he was 30+ lbs bigger in the fight vs Gane than you've ever seen Jones fight at, that counts for something.
Yeah he will be a tad slower which Gane was never as fast as Jones so that’s negotiable. He will also be older so not as spectacular. He will most certainly gameplan the hell out of Gane and fight an extremely smart fight showing Gane sme things that will absolutely make him think twice
 
He outstrikes the guy who drinks beer out of his shoes and tried zero grappling and now he can beat Jones ?
 
A newbie wrestler in Ngannou did some damage don't be ridiculous...Jones would take him down with ease. Only Ngannou would stand a chance in the stand up vs Gane, i think Jon knows that aswell so he will utilize the wrestling.
Jones was taking people down in the beginning of his career. You know why he stopped? He has a shitty top game. He would waste a lot of energy for nothing, most guys would immediately get up, he was in the risk of getting subbed. There is a reason why Jones is mostly a striker with great wrestling defense and not an offesnive wrestler. Where was this offensive wrestling when he was getting pierced up by Gus?

I think Gane beats Jones btw
 
Gane will probably fight Ngannou if he is ready. If not, then I would expect Blaydes. Jon hasn't fought in almost 3 years. I don't really care who wins against him until he signs to fight and then steps in the ring.
 
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