Jones' final run - How he should go out....

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Jones fights Aspinall. In the meantime, Pereira fights Ankalaev. If both Jones and Pereira win, then they fight each other.

Seems like a great option for Jones' final two fights and it allows Alex to also work his way to potential Triple Champ status. Great story. But say Jones successfully beats Aspinall and then Pereira, that'd be a HELL of a way to go out. Imagine retiring on a Champ vs Champ fight. Wow!

Of course, this assumes Jones wins both of these fights. Seems pretty tough at this stage of his career, but it'd make for a hell of a final run. It's a great story either way. And it seems realistic as Jones definitely wants Alex. Perhaps Uncle Dana can work his magic and get the Aspinall fight to happen first, and then offer Pereira as the reward if Jones wins that.

If either guy loses their title defense then this is obviously moot. But there's potential for something cool, and a hell of a send off, if UFC plays its cards right and things unfold accordingly.
 
Jon's biggest challenge right now is to figure out how to get away clean without looking like a fraud, and while it seems easily dismissed based on his legacy fights... this current Jones era of "I'm too old to fight, unless I have all the advantages in which case I'm the greatest cherry-picker of all-time" is a fucking joke.

I get confidence and believing yourself, or marketing yourself and all that... but don't go out, claim you're the best and fight cans to prove it. That's the shit that is fucking irritating.

Jon can't beat Aspinall, and Jon did not like getting touched by Stipe. It didn't happen often, but when Stipe caught him, Jon would turn and run (slowly), then reset. Stipe was just too crippled and old to catch him. ANY other LHW or HW not fat as fuck would have ran him down in a split second and never given him the chance to recover.

Jon would be a heavy favourite against Alex and he should be. But Jon is not going to like when Alex connects with his jaw or those skinny little legs. Jon will win, but if he doesn't put Alex away fast, he's going to feel it, and the longer that fight goes, the more time works against Jon.

Jon can argue Alex is more worthy or deserving than Tom, but no real MMA fan is going buy that level of straight-up bullshit. HW Jon should (rightfully) be an underdog to Aspinall, and it's the only fight that doesn't make Jon look like a bitch. Any opponent not named Tom Aspinall is just going to be seen as Jones ducking, and it's not even just perception at this point, it's pretty much a fact.
 
He can leave anytime and any way he wants. He's the best to ever do it. He's the final boss in MMA.
I get the idea of feeling like Jon is the GOAT but why wonder many of his fans (Not Saying you) want to proclaim his glory but don't want to see him fight against the beggest challenges?

Jon is the LHW GOAT even with the PEDs and in cage cheating. He was so dominant it is undeniable. As a HW he is untested. He faced his perfect style match up for a vacant title and Gane was never even a former champion (Should have been Stipe back then) and then faces a 3 years retired 42 year old. His double champ status is dubious at best.

I get why Jon wants a big payday and why he is openly "Ducking" to stir up interest. He will get paid more playing the heel, just look at Jake Paul fightinng Mike Tyson.

But as a Jon Jones fan wouldn't you like to see him rattle off a Legit win against a true threat like Tom and then a few more HWs. Maybe set the defense record high like 5-6. Its only what??? Three consecutive. Him fighitng Alex is ridiculous. Its a forgone conclusion, Rock always beat scissors.

As a fan I would rather see Alex vs Gane, that is a much better fight.
 
stay another year at home

commit another felony.

comeback to face Logan Paul in a boxing match for 20 millions.
 
Jon's biggest challenge right now is to figure out how to get away clean without looking like a fraud, and while it seems easily dismissed based on his legacy fights... this current Jones era of "I'm too old to fight, unless I have all the advantages in which case I'm the greatest cherry-picker of all-time" is a fucking joke.

I get confidence and believing yourself, or marketing yourself and all that... but don't go out, claim you're the best and fight cans to prove it. That's the shit that is fucking irritating.

Jon can't beat Aspinall, and Jon did not like getting touched by Stipe. It didn't happen often, but when Stipe caught him, Jon would turn and run (slowly), then reset. Stipe was just too crippled and old to catch him. ANY other LHW or HW not fat as fuck would have ran him down in a split second and never given him the chance to recover.

Jon would be a heavy favourite against Alex and he should be. But Jon is not going to like when Alex connects with his jaw or those skinny little legs. Jon will win, but if he doesn't put Alex away fast, he's going to feel it, and the longer that fight goes, the more time works against Jon.

Jon can argue Alex is more worthy or deserving than Tom, but no real MMA fan is going buy that level of straight-up bullshit. HW Jon should (rightfully) be an underdog to Aspinall, and it's the only fight that doesn't make Jon look like a bitch. Any opponent not named Tom Aspinall is just going to be seen as Jones ducking, and it's not even just perception at this point, it's pretty much a fact.
No martial arts training plus dominated by emotion like a woman and the mental age of 15 is a potent combo for analysis.

Imagine saying that a fighter who is universally recognized as having the most impressive resume in mma history, who is also easily the most talented fighter as well, is a fraud.

You can ask a room full of the greatest fighters to ever live, the best analysts on the planet in boxing and MMA

Not a single one of them would repeat such nonsense.

As Ngannou said recently, Jon doesn't gain anything by fighting Aspinall.

DC also said Jones has beaten 3 generations of fighters. He doesn't need to fight aspinall.

The reason for them saying that is Jones resume was already set in stone before he even went to HW. Even If he retired after he fought Reyes, he would've went down as the goat by the vast majority of educated minds and trained athletes both in and outside of mma.

He went up in weight for one reason, big money fights. Whether he wins or loses to Tom, it doesn't change that reality.

So, this idea that he has something he still needs to prove to a couch warrior like yourself, he doesn't.

When you're 37, you've already reached the top of the food chain, you've paid your dues and accomplished everything you're going to accomplish, you've earned the right to pursue fights that truly get you excited to perform, during a time when motivation is waning and that also provide the most financial reward, during their last opportunity to truly make wealth for their families.

Ngannou left the ufc to box for the same reason. A bigger paycheck that made the most sense In terms of business.

When GSP came back, he was accused of dodging Woodley and took an easier fight against an aged bisping for the MW title.

Ngannou wasn't scared of Jones. Jones isn't scared of Tom. GSP wasn't scared of Woodley. But it's business. Welcome to combat sports.

There's countless examples of Floyd Mayweather making similar business minded decisions and many other fighters doing the exact same thing if you dig into the boxing archives.

At the end of the day, this is a business and that becomes all the more real when you only have one or two fights left.

As a fan of MMA, I hope it happens, but either way, whether you like him or not, his legacy is set in stone.
 
I get the idea of feeling like Jon is the GOAT but why wonder many of his fans (Not Saying you) want to proclaim his glory but don't want to see him fight against the beggest challenges?

Jon is the LHW GOAT even with the PEDs and in cage cheating. He was so dominant it is undeniable. As a HW he is untested. He faced his perfect style match up for a vacant title and Gane was never even a former champion (Should have been Stipe back then) and then faces a 3 years retired 42 year old. His double champ status is dubious at best.

I get why Jon wants a big payday and why he is openly "Ducking" to stir up interest. He will get paid more playing the heel, just look at Jake Paul fightinng Mike Tyson.

But as a Jon Jones fan wouldn't you like to see him rattle off a Legit win against a true threat like Tom and then a few more HWs. Maybe set the defense record high like 5-6. Its only what??? Three consecutive. Him fighitng Alex is ridiculous. Its a forgone conclusion, Rock always beat scissors.

As a fan I would rather see Alex vs Gane, that is a much better fight.
Who's to say that anyone at HW wouldn't be a perfect style matchup for Jones.

I've said it before and analyzed it in depth, Jones is a nightmare matchup for Frank. Diverse tools like Gane, elite distance management, with the best defense in mma history, elite wrestling and fight iq versus a boxing dominant, one dimensional style. Frank would have a punchers chance which goes down drastically after the first round.

With Aspinall, there's no real indication of how he handles the wrestling, top game and GNP of Jones, and again.

Aspinall has the best chance to beat Jones, but stylistically that could very well prove to be a bad fight for him as well. Boxing dominant styles will always have a hard time actually hitting Jones clean.

The caveat is his age. The youth and speed of Tom could allow him to penetrate that defense, but given that, presumably you'd see Jones go with a wrestling and grappling dominant strategy.

Overall, Jones is a nightmare style matchup for any of these guys, the only real glaring question mark is his age.
 
Honestly if Jones stayed and still felt the fire, after Aspinall HW is a breeze. That would be his 2nd defense. 1 more with Pereira he ties it. Then Gane/Volkov vs (whoever else is looking like a contender) winner and he breaks HW record. At his usual pace of 2 a year, that puts his last fight 2026 and he'd be 38. Which besides health issues is totally realistic. He just can't fight 1x a year like he has.
 
I came to terms with the fact that Jones will leave unbeaten. Imo there is no chance in hell that he takes the Tom fight. I think he will relinquish the belt and fight some bum a year from now to leave the gloves in the octagon or hell… even call it a career after the Mocic win.
 
I hope astralpanda is at least on the payroll for the supreme PR efforts he’s been making. Otherwise this is just sad.
 
by taking a heavy concussive force to the face and waking up asking Joe what happened ?
 
Fight both guys. Tom first to unify HW title. Win or lose he can fight Perreira next. Either HW or LHW
 
I agree with you that Jones should only be allowed to fight Pereira if they both defeat the #1 contenders in their division. Both guys (Aspinall and Ankalaev) are undeniably the #1 contenders in their division.

If Jones vs Pereira happens without either guy fighting their #1 contender, it will be the ultimate Ducking match.
 
He should go out from a right hand from Aspinall. Maybe some ground and pound if he's hanging on.
 
If Jones manages two more title defenses he really should stick around for one more to attempt to set the UFC heavyweight record for longest title reign.
 
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