Jones ducked Ngannou for years!

[tritestill]

I've never seen such an intellectual assessment in my life. Wow. You are the Alpha Sherbro. These allegations are heavy and original. Bless you amazing Scientist.

 

[AmonTobin]

Does anyone actually think Ngannou ducked Jones?
Ngannou was the champion of the HW division for years while Jones sat out "bulking". He had every opportunity over that time frame to fight him, but declined to do so. He did not return until Ngannou left the promotion. These are facts.

Just wanna set the record straight that Jon Jones is a duck. He ducked Ngannou and now he is ducking Aspinall. That is all.

Nobody stopped Jones from fighting Ngannou but Jones. Too scared of losing. It may have been murky back then but it's pretty clear today. The 3 years prep thing is hogwash. Do you think Alex Pereira would need 3 years to move to HW? I don't ever expect Jones to be honest about it, but maybe one day his ride or die fanatics can snap out of their denial, come to their senses and admit it's true.

 

[10000yearsold]

Correct.

Jon Jones is a can.

Not what I’m saying at all.

I think jones is great, but I don’t like the fake re-write narrative on what actually happened. UFC is constantly trying to pull this vullshit and I’m not letting this one stand if I can have any say in it.

 

[KO Shotz]

Does anyone actually think Ngannou ducked Jones?
Ngannou was the champion of the HW division for years while Jones sat out "bulking". He had every opportunity over that time frame to fight him, but declined to do so. He did not return until Ngannou left the promotion. These are facts.

Just wanna set the record straight that Jon Jones is a duck. He ducked Ngannou and now he is ducking Aspinall. That is all.

I mean it did look like Jon ducked Ngannou & it definitely looks like Jon is ducking Tom right now. I'm not a Jon Jones hater but I call it how I see it.

If it looks like a duck & quacks like a duck...

 

[JKS]

Francis said no? where did you see this? Francis was done with the promotion. He was no longer under contract and had a verbal agreement with Tyson Fury for a super fight that would pay him millions upon millions.
why are you supporting this revisionist history?

There was an official contract offer given to Francis to fight Jones, he didn't sign it and left the promotion. Those are facts dummy.

 

[JKS]

Does anyone actually think Ngannou ducked Jones?
Ngannou was the champion of the HW division for years while Jones sat out "bulking". He had every opportunity over that time frame to fight him, but declined to do so. He did not return until Ngannou left the promotion. These are facts.

Just wanna set the record straight that Jon Jones is a duck. He ducked Ngannou and now he is ducking Aspinall. That is all.

Jones never ducked the fight, this is just propaganda from Francis supporters and Jones haters. The only time there was an actual offer for this fight made, one guy was in and the other left. I am sure you know who is who.

The fact of the matter is that no one ducked anyone, they just didnt get the right terms and money to make this fight happen from both sides. Anyone who doesn't see this is just bias.

 

[JKS]

Jon had been “bulking” for about ten years, then as soon as Francis left he moved up. Such a crazy coincidence. He wasn’t afraid of Francis though, he’s not afraid of any fighter, that’s why he’s fighting old man Stipe and not Aspinall

Interesting! Fight offer and contract was offered to Francis for UFC285 to fight Jones. Jones is the one that ended up fighting on the same card vs a different opponent. But yet Jon fought once Francis left??? Something doesn't add up here.

 

[Simple Southerner]

Oh look another cope rent free thread.

 

[JKS]

Not what I’m saying at all.

I think jones is great, but I don’t like the fake re-write narrative on what actually happened. UFC is constantly trying to pull this vullshit and I’m not letting this one stand if I can have any say in it.

I don't think you really know what happened or have a rational assessment of the situation.

 

[Substance Abuse]

We're still arguing over this dumb shit? Lol.

 

[Goatenstein]

Ngannou ran away from the company in fear of Jon Jones.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

This Aspinall situation basically confirms who was ducking who when it came to Jones/Ngannou.

He went after Gane because Gane was super green, had unproven/untested grappling skills and lacked one hitter quitter power.

 

[Young Calf Kick]

Jones glazing squad out in full force doing everything in their revisionist history capabilities to defend their lowlife ducking overlord

 

[KO Shotz]

The fact of the matter is that no one ducked anyone, they just didnt get the right terms and money to make this fight happen from both sides. Anyone who doesn't see this is just bias.

It reminds me of Brock vs Fedor. Could've happened & would've been massive, but both sides were being unbelievably difficult.

It did look like Jon was ducking Ngannou tho with the narrative of him bulking up. It looked like that was his excuse for not fighting at HW right away.

 

[JKS]

Jones glazing squad out in full force doing everything in their revisionist history capabilities to defend their lowlife ducking overlord

Yet none of you can actual come up with a legitimate argument to support Jon ducking Francis. You hate the guy, I get it. I am not a fan either. But I don't let that get in the way of my perspective of what happened in this fight not being made.

 

[JKS]

It reminds me of Brock vs Fedor. Could've happened & would've been massive, but both sides were being unbelievably difficult.

It did look like Jon was ducking Ngannou tho with the narrative of him bulking up. It looked like that was his excuse for not fighting at HW right away.

It's exactly like Fedor vs Brock, two sides just couldn't get the deal done. Jon is too blame as well as he was being difficult in negotiating his contract and wanted a ton of money. And I don't blame Francis for leaving, he took the better deal for him somewhere else.

The thing about this fight is that people think there was a span of many years to make it. Fact is that the actual window for when this fight could have actually happened and made sense for both sides was small. The actual window was between April 21 to Dec 22 so about 1.5 years. It just didn't work out.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

It reminds me of Brock vs Fedor. Could've happened & would've been massive, but both sides were being unbelievably difficult.

As much as I like Fedor, it was all on him. Brock had no real reason to not want that fight, he was thrown to the wolves basically from jump. But a guy who had developed an aura and cult like following based around his undefeated record absolutely had a reason to avoid the UFC where he wasnt gonna get the same freedom to manage the risks he took.

As for Jon/Ngannou. Seems like Jon would have much more reason to avoid that fight than Ngannou would. Ngannou was less of a star and already had multiple losses, while Jon was the bigger star but the smaller man, and had the whole "undefeated" aura to protect. Also its not like Jon is some scary heavy hitting fighter that people are terrified of, whereas Ngannou was. I dont see why a guy who fought genuinely scary dudes like Reem and then went to boxing to fight friggin Anthony Joshua, would be afraid of a pillow fisted career LHW who was last seen getting a contentious decision over Dominick Reyes.

 

[Young Calf Kick]

Yet none of you can actual come up with a legitimate argument to support Jon ducking Francis. You hate the guy, I get it. I am not a fan either. But I don't let that get in the way of my perspective of what happened in this fight not being made.

I can actually, it’s asking for a guaranteed 20 million to fight Francis, which is more than 6x the amount (3 million if you exclude PPV points) the UFC’s biggest draw (Conor) asked for it’s biggest ever fight (Khabib)

Jones ducked Francis. better luck next time.

 

[10000yearsold]

I don't think you really know what happened or have a rational assessment of the situation.

You definitely do not know any better than I do, but we can both agree that Jon sat out for years making no money with an open offer to fight Ngannou.
Jones took no interest until Ngannou’s contract was done and he had an offer to fight for Hw boxing money.
One guy left to fight for millions the other sat out to make nothing. The man who made nothing avoiding this fight is the duck.

 

[JKS]

I can actually, it’s asking for a guaranteed 20 million to fight Francis, which is more than 6x the amount (3 million if you exclude PPV points) the UFC’s biggest draw (Conor) asked for it’s biggest ever fight (Khabib)

Jones ducked Francis. better luck next time.

That's a pretty shitty argument there sport, because Jon wanted to get paid large?? And I like that little curve ball you threw in there "if you exclude PPV points" that's where the money is for Conor and even tough he got a 3 mill base, with PPV he made over 28 mill (reported)

Your argument of Jon asking for big money and the fight not being made is the same as Francis demanding to box among other things and not getting what he wanted.

It just didn't work for both sides, no one ducked anyone. Get over it.