Jon Jones Likely Has Nothing For Ciryl Gane

[Chalky White]

It's hard to see Jon easily wrestling Ciryl, when he struggled to take down, nevermind control Dominic. Everyone is acting like Francis is a bum grappler, it's really weird... He easily outwrestled Stipe in their rematch, and he's probably much much stronger than Jon. Getting thrown around by Francis is nothing to be ashamed of, and it's not like Ciryl was helpless, he had his moments too.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ciryl gets a tko, similar to the Tuivasa fight, like an accumulation of bodyshots or something along those lines. If Jones wins, it would have to be through relentless pressure, like he did with Dominic, unless he comes out with some never before seen power in his strikes, or surprises me with his grappling. He's always looked super dominant on the ground, but that Reyes fight was a really bad look.

They’re also discounting that Gane left himself open partly due to the fear of getting his head caved in by the most powerful puncher in UFC history.

Jones has average power, he’s not going to scare Gane on the feet with his point-fighting.

 

[mmadeewana]

Jones can clinch him and hold him against the fence. Gane can use some leg kicks against Jones.

 

[magpie878]

Jon is a guy who can knock you out simply because you're just going to be worried about the grappling.

Outside of a KO win just over four years ago, it's been almost 10 years since Jones won by anything other than a decision. Not sure who exactly is worried about getting KO'd by Jones.

 

[GoGetSomeFansJon]

I wonder if Jones has been working on different things in his time off. He obviously has gone to Cejudo to tune up and refine his grappling game. Its not like hes been sitting around, eating, getting fat and lifting weights. Im sure hes been working new aspects to add to his game and we could be in for a surprise come fight night.

 

[Fight Professor]

Curious to see if Gane will have a more agressive approach since Jones is not known for his KO power.

It wasn't scary at LHW, imagine at HW and considering Gane has fought Lewis, Ngannou and Tuivasa in a row.

I feel like the takedown threat is going to play a big role, especially because of the Ngannou fight.

 

[SpamuraiSensei]

I'm sure Jones is absolutely terrified of a heavyweight with no ground game.

 

[true_fan]

Only 1 year ago Ciryl Gane fought and lost against a man that came into the cage partially crippled with 2 blown out knees and still Gane couldn't stop being taken down and held down. Even though I hate Jon Jones he's a going to easily take Gane down and smash him. You can't have 0 wrestling and TDD and think you are going to be great at TDD in 1 years time it just doesn't happen.

You forgot how Francis said he would KO Gane only to become a panic wrestler? It was actually Gane’s game to lose. Gane will beat Jon like a piñata to be totally honest because he is bigger and stronger and more athletic and will be ready for TDD since he is fighting Jones. Jon will be extremely lucky if he makes out of the first round since it’s HW and they’re all heavy hitters

 

[true_fan]

I agree that Jon isn't a top tier striker, but he throws unconventional strikes from weird angles, and then power takedowns... most of these heavies are not going to be able to get back up. Jon isn't an idiot and he's gonna wrastle-fuck the division most likely, but most people at that weight can get caught and put out, so it's definitely a step up in the 'danger zone'. Jon actually looked slow at LHW, but he's gonna look slick and fast at heavy... I'm optimistic.

Jon couldn’t even handle Reyes, you really think he will survive the most athletic HW Eva?

 

[Dionysian]

Gane is a novice on the ground. So yeah, if Jones is physically capable of still getting takedowns, there's a pretty damn clear path to victory here. The worst is that Gane, as a novice grappler, is a legit top 3 talent at HW. Man what a shitshow of a division.

 

[americanphenom]

I totally agree. Those who disagree seem to be in some alternate universe where they think Jones is still in his prime, when he is many years past it by now. He will look like Shogun did when Jones fought Shogun.....

Shogun was 29 lol idiot

 

[GearSolidMetal]

@UFCIsNOTRigged

You do know that this thread is going to get bumped repeatedly if Jones wins, right?

 

[XDeathClutchX]

You don't put on 40 pounds and have a bigger tank unless you're on drugs but then again we're talking about Jon. If Jon is clean his conditioning wont be as good as LHW when he weighed 40 pounds lighter

I doubt he put on 40 pounds, you have to remember, towards the end of his LHW days he was making a considerable weight cut.

If you don’t think cutting 20-30 pounds has a negative impact on your stamina I would say you are wrong.

In regards to steroids he has never looked like trt vitor. The guys with that shredded look are the ones who tend to gas the fastest.

Lastly I am not saying I know he will not have conditioning or stamina problems, I am saying anyone who claims to know he will is just speculating with zero proof.

 

[downthepines]

I am not sure if Jones can easily get the takedown, But I think he will. If Jones manages to take him down away from the cage, I think Jones can do some fight ending damage if he manages to keep Gane down which is especially likely away from cage.

 

[SkinnyClaw]

I feel like the takedown threat is going to play a big role, especially because of the Ngannou fight.

Jon doesn't have that kind of power in his takedowns, at least we haven't seen it, and is smaller and weaker than Francis. If Jon takes Ciryl down, I highly doubt its going to look like when Francis was doing it. I don't know if Ciryl will be afraid of that

 

[MuayThaiBX]

If Jones gets him down Gane is probably in trouble. But unless Jones' standup leveled up massively during his bulk up (I doubt it as I think he will be slower with a half decent increase in striking power) he won't have much to threaten Gane on the feet.

 

[BowserJr]

Lol volkov has 0 tdd and would be smashed on the ground

Everyone would have complained that jones cherry picked out of prime, old washed up heavyweights if he fought werdum or overeem (he beats both btw)

curtis is a difficult match up through for sure

Ya thats why I said would've.

If Jones moved to HW when Werdum was still in UFC he and Overeem beat him.

We've already heard that Reem bullied him in Training. Werdums striking is better than Jones and he's better at grappling. He's just old now with too many miles.

As far as volkov, jbj uses his height leverage as an advantage for takedowns. That's not there and Volkov has a decent enough grappling. He's a better striker than Jones and Jones wouldn't have enough reach advantage to make up for anything

 

[BowserJr]

Volkov the guy who got 50-45ed by Gane last year?

Oh I forgot that JBJ has the same striking acumen and speed as Gane so the fight would play put exactly the same

 

[ProfessorF8]

Jones has 8 limb striking, reach, and a strong AF clinch game. Unless Jones has lost a step and has serious cage rust, this fight is his to lose.

 

[ColombianFist]

i wouldn't rule out a jones victory, but the layoff, his past perfomances which were IMO loses and USADA testing his ass 24/7 makes me wonder if he's prepared to fight at HW. Also bear in mind the size advantage is gone and he won't dwarf anyone at HW, or use his freak reach; between Gane and jones there's just a 3 and a half difference and Gane is a much better striker. i think Gane wins this but i don't rule out Jones 100% but everything will depend on what Jones will appear.

 

[mkt]

The early Jones, all the way up to the Gustaffson rematch, would have a lot of potential at HW. But the Jones we saw in his last few LWH fights...not so much. Unless he's found some way to channel his 2009-2018 self, I don't like his chances.