Social Thoughts on "Heritage" Americans/Canadians?

[Koro_11]

I recently watched a fascinating segment on the concept of "Heritage Americans" - a term used to to describe people who trace their roots to the founding generations or descend from cultures that are predominantly white and Christian (the "original" settlers of the United States).

In a nutshell, if you weren't white and Christian, you could never truly be American (or Canadian). There was a funny section of the video that described social medias response to Kash Patel when he wished people "Happy Diwali". People told him to go back to India and worship his sand gods, despite the fact that Kash was born and raised in the United States.

I have encountered something similar (although not with a racist intent). When people ask me where I am from, it is never good enough to say "Canada". The follow up question is always "Where are you really from (lineage)?", despite the fact that I was born in Toronto. I am also acutely aware that I will always belong as an "Other" in Canada - I used to do a lot of research in rural northern communities, and I was always viewed differently because of my skin color. Not necessarily in a bad way, but it felt like there was a performative aspect to prove that I was "one of the good ones", because I spoke like them and shared similar values/interests.

I was curious to get people's thoughts on how they feel about the concept of "Heritage American". Is a Buddhist Chinese guy from San Francisco as American as a anglo-white church goer from Nebraska?

Just flip the script and ask the question the other way and see what answer you come up with.

Do you think a white guy who was born in in African country and lives in an African country is just as African as the black guy living there?

An even better question is why you give a shit and why are you so obsessed with being seen as Canadian anyway. I’m a white Christian guy, but I was not born in Canada and I came here as a child so I have no accent and I could definitely pass for a heritage Canadian if I wanted to claim it but when people ask me where I’m from I tell them my country of origin first and then I say, but I’ve lived in Canada most of my life.

 

[Sinister]

Their definition of white is probably based on the "one drop rule".

It is strictly exclusionary.

100%

O wait, 99%

 

[Sinister]

Just flip the script and ask the question the other way and see what answer you come up with.

Do you think a white guy who was born in in African country and lives in an African country is just as African as the black guy living there?

Yes he is, dipsh*t

 

[Koro_11]

Yes he is, dipsh*t

Ok cool, as long as you’re consistent with it, most of your kind are not.

 

[Sinister]

Ok cool, as long as you’re consistent with it, most of your kind are not.

You just think that the World is a racist or ignorant as you are.

"My kind" know the difference between a Nationality and an ethnicity. Africa is a place that is way more ethnically diverse than Europe could ever hope of being, but all you "Western Culture" dingbats see is "black"...or when politicall convenient "African." Afrikaaners go by that moniker to distinguish themselves from black South Africans, of whom there are more than one tribe. Moroccans can look European but are still African.

When I first got to Vegas I hung out with a lot of Ghanaians. The majority were from the Ga tribe, which have a Warrior culture, the Clottey Brothers were from this tribe:



But the closest one to me was this guy:



(Boy do I wish that was a different Marco Rubio)

Anyway, Kofi is Asante, completely different tribe and ethnicity. Now I know you probably just see two buff black dudes, but they're from the same City and would have little to do with each other. When Kofi won the African Championship the Ga were so offended to be defeated by someone of a non-Warrior tribe they almost rioted, and his tribe all left. The Military had to protect him.

And you can bet the Europeans exploited these differences when it came to the slave trade, but then erased those differences in transit so they could all become cattle.

Ya know, to use unpaid labor to build this superior world or something.

 

[Sinister]

what, you're telling me that only 100 years ago, people now considered to be 'whites' in America were referred to by people named Smith (who were the real 'white men' of the time) as 'bohunks' or 'wops' or 'Polacks' or whatever depending on whether they were of Bohemian or Italian or Polish background***, but you're telling me that now considering them all to have homogenous backgrounds and cultures is some kind of thin, artificial construct that elides literally centuries of diverse cultural differences between them?


*** I mean they certainly weren't white men, for god's sake, they were catholic for a start which was an instant disqualifier even for the pastiest-skinned Mick

Did you say....CATHOLICS!!!

 

[Koro_11]

You just think that the World is a racist or ignorant as you are.

"My kind" know the difference between a Nationality and an ethnicity. Africa is a place that is way more ethnically diverse than Europe could ever hope of being, but all you "Western Culture" dingbats see is "black"...or when politicall convenient "African." Afrikaaners go by that moniker to distinguish themselves from black South Africans, of whom there are more than one tribe. Moroccans can look European but are still African.

When I first got to Vegas I hung out with a lot of Ghanaians. The majority were from the Ga tribe, which have a Warrior culture, the Clottey Brothers were from this tribe:



But the closest one to me was this guy:



(Boy do I wish that was a different Marco Rubio)

Anyway, Kofi is Asante, completely different tribe and ethnicity. Now I know you probably just see two buff black dudes, but they're from the same City and would have little to do with each other. When Kofi won the African Championship the Ga were so offended to be defeated by someone of a non-Warrior tribe they almost rioted, and his tribe all left. The Military had to protect him.

And you can bet the Europeans exploited these differences when it came to the slave trade, but then erased those differences in transit so they could all become cattle.

Ya know, to use unpaid labor to build this superior world or something.

I think you give "your kind" too much credit because I remember when Dricus DuPlessis claimed to be an African UFC champion a lot of leftie snowflakes lost their shit.

Anyway I'm not sure why you felt the need to write all that, I wasn't making the case one way of the other, the dude who made the thread wanted to know how people of different ethnic backgrounds should be considered when born in countries like US and Canada, and I just told him to use whatever metric he uses for people who are in the same position in other places.

Africa is just one example, but you can use any... like is a white kid born in Japan just as Japanese as the rest of the population of Japan that was born there? If his answer is yes, then there's no problem with applying the same logic to North American children of immigrants. If the answer is no, again it's fine as long as he's consistent and he applies it consistently everywhere.

The problem with "your kind", by which I mean lefties, will have no problem with a country like Zimbabwe or Pakistan saying they want to preserve their culture and don't want it degraded by too many foreigners, in fact a lot of lefties will celebrate them and laugh at some white guy that got himself killed going there. Meanwhile the same lefties will call you racist if you're a European or North American talking about preserving your culture etc.... it's the double standard that makes most of the left's position's so absurd.