Jon Jones is gonna reality check alot of people who assume Aspinall will be a threat

[JKS]

A very reasonable and accurate take. I mostly agree. I think this is why Jones is very hesitant because it doesn’t do a lot for his legacy right now. If Tom loses it to Jones and then goes on a massive run in the next few years and is killing everybody, then it greatly adds to Jones Legacy. But right now I don’t think it does much of anything. If Tom loses, he’s just another guy that Jones beat.

The thing is, all these reasons for taking the fight and not taking are gonna be irrelevant once the all might dollar kicks in. Jon is gonna fight again, if Jon was going to retire he would have done it already. So Jon will fight again and it's gonna be against Aspinal. The UFC will offer a very generous pay day to the point where it over compensates in case Jon loses or any thoughts of not fighting. One loss late in his career will not affect his legacy much. He's the goat and he was the goat before he even went up to HW.

Jon is in prime position now to make huge money per fight, one pay day now is like 2-3 from a few years ago or even more. Jon will continue to fight cause the money is just too good.

 

[mkess101]

Well, I think he fights Tom or he retires. Dana seems pretty adamant that’s the fight he wants and the only fight he’s going to give him. I think it’s 60/40 we get it. Fingers crossed.

Hopefully. Reports are Jon wants $30m. My guess is he'd agree to $20m and retire afterward win or lose.

 

[Dionysian]

While Jon Jones may well have been avoiding Ngannou before the Ngannou vs. Gane fight, the notion that after that fight Jon Jones wasn't champing at the beat to beat the ever-loving-fuck out of Ngannou is patently stupid. No one who actually watched that fight thinks that Jon Jones was in any way wary of facing Ngannou afterwards.

Why? Why would Jon be super excited about his prospects vs Fracnis after watching Francis out-grapple white belt Cyril? Just because Francis didn't finish him on the ground? Or am I missing another point?

And if he was chomping at the bit... then why didn't the fight happen?

 

[SuperAlly]

I’ll try to keep this short since you are so lazy beyond about two sentences you check out mentally completely. Tom is not an all-time great fighter right now. You can hang onto my up-and-coming line until you are blue in the face. It changes nothing. If Tom loses this fight, he will be disregarded as an overrated heavyweight opponent. That’s a fact.

You talk about how he’s been on a roll knocking out top 10 opponents. Congratulations name the fighter he’s fought that has a legacy? Name the fighter he’s defeated that has a legacy? What’s his name?

This is partially why Jones doesn’t want the fight. He’s not facing a fellow legend or somebody that would really elevate his legacy. Everything about Tom is about can he defeat Jones? You know it, I know it, and anybody without a nasty hangover also knows it. Let me ask you this if Jones wins will you be saying it greatly elevated his legacy? Like he’s without question the goat with no other possible fighters being in contention?

My only point of contention with you is that it is retarded to call a champ, even an interim champ, who has starched most the top 10 in his division an "up and comer".

It is a retarded thing to say

 

[Dbreiden83080]

My only point of contention with you is that it is retarded to call a champ, even an interim champ, who has starched most the top 10 in his division an "up and comer".

It is a retarded thing to say

So sorry to disappoint you sweetheart.

Have a great week.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Hopefully. Reports are Jon wants $30m. My guess is he'd agree to $20m and retire afterward win or lose.

If the fight is going to happen, it probably happens this summer or fall at the very latest.

 

[fzoid4454]

Tom's cardio is untested and likely to not last into later rounds, but we don't really know and, unlike Gane, Tom might be smart enough to train for a Jones fight with a focus on improving skills needed to win the fight.

Also, Tom's blitz is good enough that it's dangerous even if Jones doesn't make any egregious mistakes.

Also, Tom has the option, unlike Gane, of gameplanning for Jones and changing up his usual strategy.

If they fight I have Jones as the slight-to-moderate favorite, but there's really high variance in how the fight might play out and Aspinall is much, much more dangerous for Jones than Gane ever was.

It will be interesting. The big wild card is that Jones doesn't get credit for his beard. Cormier, Stipe and other have touched his chin, and while Jones will retreat and scramble to get back out of range when that happens, he's never been wobbled. He seems to have a very good chin, albeit one that doesn't get tested very often. But it's the heavyweights. No one's chin is strong enough if hit flush.

Hope the fight happens.

 

[Juzie]

Reminds me of what the Tyson Fury fan base used to say about Usyk.

Just tired of hearing about Jon at this point. He's a fake champ.. his belt is 3rd in line after Ngannou and Tom. We don't need to hear about this guy all the time. He's a nobody at heavyweight. Lets give the real belt to Tom already and strip Jones.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

It will be interesting. The big wild card is that Jones doesn't get credit for his beard. Cormier, Stipe and other have touched his chin, and while Jones will retreat and scramble to get back out of range when that happens, he's never been wobbled. He seems to have a very good chin, albeit one that doesn't get tested very often. But it's the heavyweights. No one's chin is strong enough if hit flush.

Hope the fight happens.

Of course, and Tom obviously hits extremely hard. I think you may see a lot of clinch work against the cage from Jones kind of like what GSP did to BJ Penn in that rematch. Make those shoulders and arms, tired and fatigued, and the power gets less and less as the rounds go on. Could be a very boring fight, but it would be an effective strategy.

 

[JonnyBonesPharmacist]

Good win, but Jones still ducking big Francis.

The big Francis that went life or death for 5 rounds against Gane? The Gane that Bones smoked in less than 1 round?

 

[mkess101]

Of course, and Tom obviously hits extremely hard. I think you may see a lot of clinch work against the cage from Jones kind of like what GSP did to BJ Penn in that rematch. Make those shoulders and arms, tired and fatigued, and the power gets less and less as the rounds go on. Could be a very boring fight, but it would be an effective strategy.

GSP was the bigger guy, where Jones is the smaller guy. Way harder to try to lean on a guy who's 25 lbs heavier than you. I don't disagree it may be the correct strategy, but there's just a mass difference between Aspinall and Jones that will make that a bigger challenge for Jon.

 

[Captain Herb]

Jones could reality check a lot of people by just taking the fight

 

[muaythaibeast]

Imagine if Jon Jones gets ease takedowns on Aspinall.. Fight is over! The ref will pull Jon of Aspinall 1st round but with striking battle I see Jon finishing Aspinall in 3rd or 4th round due to collecting to many damage

Possibly, but he has zero chance if he can't get easy takedowns. There's no way he can dance on the outside for 5 rounds, especially not with how slow he is now

 

[Trabaho]

Jon exposed Cyrils lack of grapung, Gane openly avoids Blaydes and Almeida. Than Jon beat a retired fighter who is old. All you say abour Jon is from his career at LHW. Tom is a big well rounded HW.

 

[shorinryu86]

Jones is old. He will get exposed.

 

[Pious Augustus]

I will say it right now! Tom Aspinall has a punchers chance and his window of winning the fight closes in the first round heck not even first round but first minutes of first round where he has his explosiveness. Jon Jones is to smart to get caught by a one shoot he has fought gazilions of guys with one punch KO power etc etc.

The Amount of arsenal Jon Jones has is to great for Aspinall. Heck I won´t even be surprised if Jones finishes him in the first round.

Jones knows that Aspinall is same level as Ciryl Gane and past first round he is done. Tom Aspinall has never taken any of the shoots Jones is gonna throw at him and fighting chinny slow HWs is nothing compared to Jon Jones which is completely different world of difference. Throwing some haymakers at random heavyweights who have no IQ is nothing comparable to sharing an octagon with Jon Jones.

I don´t think Aspinall is ready because he has never seen adversary in his career aside from his knee injury and fight was stopped. Jon is intelligent, fast and lethal. He is experienced and has been thru wars and extremely elusive this will frustrate Aspinall from first few mins when he realize holyshxt this guy is elusive and he is hitting me everytime with something big. This will be the beginning of the end Aspinall will feel like a fish out of water..

Are you trying to channel your wishes into reality?

 

[nonoob]

Jones could reality check a lot of people by just taking the fight

Legacy of Jones ducking has been set in stone since the hiding from Francis.
Inspired by realistic self-doubt and cowardice, Jon knows Tom isn't his babymama.​

Jones is going to go to work

Legacy.
​

 

[jeff7b9]

Well this aged like milk.

 

[drphil]

I will say it right now! Tom Aspinall has a punchers chance and his window of winning the fight closes in the first round heck not even first round but first minutes of first round where he has his explosiveness. Jon Jones is to smart to get caught by a one shoot he has fought gazilions of guys with one punch KO power etc etc.

The Amount of arsenal Jon Jones has is to great for Aspinall. Heck I won´t even be surprised if Jones finishes him in the first round.

Jones knows that Aspinall is same level as Ciryl Gane and past first round he is done. Tom Aspinall has never taken any of the shoots Jones is gonna throw at him and fighting chinny slow HWs is nothing compared to Jon Jones which is completely different world of difference. Throwing some haymakers at random heavyweights who have no IQ is nothing comparable to sharing an octagon with Jon Jones.

I don´t think Aspinall is ready because he has never seen adversary in his career aside from his knee injury and fight was stopped. Jon is intelligent, fast and lethal. He is experienced and has been thru wars and extremely elusive this will frustrate Aspinall from first few mins when he realize holyshxt this guy is elusive and he is hitting me everytime with something big. This will be the beginning of the end Aspinall will feel like a fish out of water..

I don't believe that.
But at this point idc I just wanna see the damn fight!

 

[hymn]

Well this aged like milk.

"Jon Jones is to smart to get caught"
"Throwing some haymakers at random heavyweights who have no IQ is nothing comparable to sharing an octagon with Jon Jones."
"extremely elusive this will frustrate Aspinall from first few mins when he realize holyshxt this guy is elusive"

he had some good predictions tbh