Jon Jones and Connor McGregor...

[Pious Augustus]

Cliffs pls

 

[TrueFightFan]

Thing is, Jones did the time, if Lesnar "pulses", then he would have to get suspended, Jones was suspended for an specific PED then he is still pulsing on the same thing, this cant be applied to whatever PED they test anyone imo.

I would that to be true if we weren't sitting here talking about "pulsing". Think about how stupid the whole pulsing conversation is. If you have PEDS in your system, you should not be fighting. Doesn't matter how they got there or if they are stored in your fat, your dick or your hair, you shouldn't be fighting, period. However, it is convenient that jones, who isn't really a big draw, has opened that door for Lesnar, who is a huge draw.

 

[TrueFightFan]

I actually couldn't recall. I thought it was twice outside of the medical issue fight but someone indicated it was 4 times.

Forgive me for asking a question ....

"I know there was the hospital incident but since he didn't actually compete he didn't technically weigh in for that fight."

 

[Dirge]

"I know there was the hospital incident but since he didn't actually compete he didn't technically weigh in for that fight."

And you bolded my statement for what? Are you that hard up for entertainment?

I asked how many times total that he failed to make weight. I thought it was maybe twice because I couldn't recall. Someone politely corrected me.

I'd suggest you get a life.

 

[kflo]

No, jones is pulsing what he was masking. Not the masking agent itself. Also, you are conveniently leaving out that his "dick pill" came in the same package that the Clomid came in. Lastly, there were 3 banned agents in the dick pill and he only popped for two.

again, you're conflating the first suspension, with the pulsing. he's not pulsing chlomiphene.

i'm not "leaving out" anything. you're free to read the first arbitration agreement which of course specifically addresses the pill and his test results. and concluded he took the dick pill and that he was "not a drug cheat". those are the specific words in the document.

you can have your own opinion but don't put out your opinion as fact.

and again, jones isn't "pulsing" chlomiphene. so it's really a dumb argument.

 

[91 seconds]

I can appreciate that sentiment because his mouth has done him no favors.

What about the jones/Lesnar connection.

I said kinda the same thing similar to you a few weeks ago. I don't know or not if Jones was the pawn all along but they are going to use that same arguement with Lesnar if there is left over metabolites in his system. They'll say it was too small to enhance his performance. Meanwhile he'll look purple and super jacked.

 

[TrueFightFan]

again, you're conflating the first suspension, with the pulsing. he's not pulsing chlomiphene.

i'm not "leaving out" anything. you're free to read the first arbitration agreement which of course specifically addresses the pill and his test results. and concluded he took the dick pill and that he was "not a drug cheat". those are the specific words in the document.

you can have your own opinion but don't put out your opinion as fact.

and again, jones isn't "pulsing" chlomiphene. so it's really a dumb argument.

You seem to not be able to read good so I will type slower...

He popped for the same masking agent as Lesnar, then popped for the "juice" and started the "pictogram pulsing". His arbitration rep put out a statement about dick pills but USADA didnt agree or disagree. There was no legitimate proof that the pills caused his positive test results so he received THE FULL SUSPENSION anyway. What you are doing is repeating the UFC's spin on the incident .

 

[TrueFightFan]

And you bolded my statement for what? Are you that hard up for entertainment?

I asked how many times total that he failed to make weight. I thought it was maybe twice because I couldn't recall. Someone politely corrected me.

I'd suggest you get a life.

You must have missed the part of my post that states that I have not been on Sherdog in quite some time. Probably because I have no life and was waiting quietly in my mother's basement, growing a neckbeard, to jump back in at the perfect opportunity to expose this embarrassing fact about myself.

 

[Octupus Samurai]

TS right now :

 

[kflo]

You seem to not be able to read good so I will type slower...

He popped for the same masking agent as Lesnar, then popped for the "juice" and started the "pictogram pulsing". His arbitration rep put out a statement about dick pills but USADA didnt agree or disagree. There was no legitimate proof that the pills caused his positive test results so he received THE FULL SUSPENSION anyway. What you are doing is repeating the UFC's spin on the incident .

Your problem is you’re too invested in your trolling.

What are you trying to argue? That lesnar can pulse m3 metabolites and not face suspension because he was suspended for chlomophene?

That masking agents can be used to mask long term m3 metabolites?

I didn’t repeat the “ufc spin”. I quoted the arbitration agreement.

I get that this started as you trolling but you can break character.

 

[Snowy1]

 

[Doughie99]

165 to 145 is a sizeable cut. That he was eating 5 times a day to get to 168 vs Nate Diaz probably shoots a small hole in that argument. However, if you can't acknowledge 200lb-210lb fighters holding 145lb, 155lb and 170lb belts as a little ridiculous, then I guess there is no reasoning with you.

No , this is false. McGregor lied that he was struggling to get up to 170lbs weight, its rubbish. He had to CUT WEIGHT for that fight, and he deliberately cut to 2lbs below the limit to make it look like he was undersized. The guy walks round around 177lbs or over, this is an ADMISSION by his own camp, and i've put out that quote and source in at least one previous post. I have even heard that Mcg when out of camp walks around 180 to 183lbs. He made a career out of cutting vast amounts of weight.

You need to stop being naive about these things, and look at all the facts and evidence and all that.

 

[Hotora86]

At least spell his name right...

 

[Ken Oath]

It still amazes me that supposed MMA fans still can’t spell the name of the most popular MMA fighter correctly.

 

[Doughie99]

Payne, good to see you!
I don't know how to "bump" threads but you may remember, a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, I told you that jones would NEVER fight clean. Well, a few pictograms later and here we are.

If the TS cannot even spell "Conor" correctly nor the fact that one trillionth of a gram is actually a "picogram" then how is anybody gonna believe you got any facts right if you cannot spell two key words? It was Jones who pronounced the word incorrectly in a press conference I believe, and that seems to have propagated itself...

 

[DirtyBadger]

Bummer, thought these guys were officially announcing their new podcast.

 

[TrueFightFan]

Your problem is you’re too invested in your trolling.

What are you trying to argue? That lesnar can pulse m3 metabolites and not face suspension because he was suspended for chlomophene?

That masking agents can be used to mask long term m3 metabolites?

I didn’t repeat the “ufc spin”. I quoted the arbitration agreement.

I get that this started as you trolling but you can break character.

Much more of a thought out response. Kudos to you.

No trolling here, just a precedent being set. This whole "pulsing" effect will reach new levels soon. Do you believe that only one type of chemical can stay in your "fat cells" long term? Pay attentiona and dont be so close minded about things that you have already made your mind up about.

As for thr arbitration statement, that was not what USADA concluded. They didn't believe the dick pills had anything to do with his test results and, therefore, gave him the FULL suspension. The UFC and jones' attorneys would have you believe differently.

 

[TrueFightFan]

No , this is false. McGregor lied that he was struggling to get up to 170lbs weight, its rubbish. He had to CUT WEIGHT for that fight, and he deliberately cut to 2lbs below the limit to make it look like he was undersized. The guy walks round around 177lbs or over, this is an ADMISSION by his own camp, and i've put out that quote and source in at least one previous post. I have even heard that Mcg when out of camp walks around 180 to 183lbs. He made a career out of cutting vast amounts of weight.

You need to stop being naive about these things, and look at all the facts and evidence and all that.

You just presented a whole lot of "he said / she said" and then asked me to stick to facts. He weighed in at 168 for a 170lb fight .

When im in shape, I walk around at 205-210. During the holidays I can get up to 225. I dont cut weight for my career, management, but if I did, I would get in shape first .

This being said, the "death cut" is what I'm referring to and if these guys are in shape and 205lbs, what the hell are they doing competing for 145,155 and 170lb titles?

 

[Credo]

GOOTS

 

[TrueFightFan]

If the TS cannot even spell "Conor" correctly nor the fact that one trillionth of a gram is actually a "picogram" then how is anybody gonna believe you got any facts right if you cannot spell two key words? It was Jones who pronounced the word incorrectly in a press conference I believe, and that seems to have propagated itself...

If you can't see the sarcasm, even when "pictogram" is in quotes, then I imagine that you are the typical Sherdogger: 6'4", a chiseled 220lbs, who never smiles and only bangs 10s after increasing his ever-growing undefeated streak, night after night. I'm sorry my humor is lost on you. As for Conor, Android autospell ko's me every time.