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Movies JOKER v.3 (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen JOKER, how would you rate it?


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Update: November 15, 2019

JOKER Achieves Box Office Milestone as First R-Rated Movie to Cross $1 Billion

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Against all odds, Warner Bros. and Todd Phillips' R-rated Joker is about to join the billion dollar club at the worldwide box office. Its global grosses through Thursday stand at $999.1 million.

The subversive, R-rated superhero pic starring Joaquin Phoenix is also destined to generate profits of $600 million for Warners and partners Village Roadshow and Bron. The two partners each have a 25 percent stake in the film.

The movie's phenomenal run at the box office has exceeded all expectations, particularly in the U.S., where there were security concerns leading into the film's release. Domestically, it has grossed nearly $340 million, while it has cleared $820 million overseas.

Joker will be the fourth DC title to cross $1 billion, behind Aquaman ($1.15 billion), The Dark Knight Rises ($1.084 billion) and The Dark Knight ($1.005 billion), not adjusted for inflation.

And overall, it is becoming the 13th live-action comic book pic to collect $1 billion or more, even though it isn't billed as a traditional "superhero" movie. Marvel Studios/Disney titles command eight spots on the list (that doesn't include Spider-Man: Far From Home, which was produced by Marvel for Sony).

Joker had already passed up Deadpool ($783 million) to become the top-grossing R-rated pic of all time, not adjusted for inflation. (Deadpool 2's earnings were roughly $738 million before a PG-13 cut of the 2018 film brought the movie's total grosses to $785 million.)

Joker will become the sixth Warners film to lay claim to the billion-dollar milestone. In addition to Aquaman and the two Dark Knight pics, the other titles are the final Harry Potter movie ($1.34 billion) and The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ($1.02 billion), not adjusted for inflation. That number grows to seven if counting New Line's 2003 effort Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King ($1.13 billion). (New Line was a sister company at the time, prior to merging with Warner Bros. in 2008).

In terms of other DC titles in the post-Christopher Nolan era, Man of Steeltopped out at $668 million globally, followed by Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice ($873.6 million), Suicide Squad ($746.8 million), Wonder Woman ($821.8 million) and Justice League ($657.9 million).

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...one-joker-crossing-1-billion-globally-1254221
 
I hope the movie industry takes note

We need more straight white male leads in Hollywood
 
I hope the movie industry takes note

We need more straight white male leads in Hollywood

Hollywood was just being smart. After Black Panther was successful by being the first ever film with a black actor, Joker took a risk and made the first ever film with a white actor. I think we can expect to see more movies featuring both in the future. Who knows what they'll try next.
 
It's a tough one. Warners didn't want to do this in the first place. If they finance the whole thing next time, Phillips and Phoenix will probably angle for a percentage, which Warners would want to restrict way less than fifty, which is their own current split. But since the popularity of the film is 100% because of P&P, it'll be hard negotiations. Not to mention a strained relationship if Warners cooks the books.

Hollywood was just being smart. After Black Panther was successful by being the first ever film with a black actor, Joker took a risk and made the first ever film with a white actor. I think we can expect to see more movies featuring both in the future. Who knows what they'll try next.
Dare to believe in a good White man.
 
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Good.

Fuck Marvel
I'm not there (fk marvel) yet, but that phase of Marvel was a teens thing. 09-19. That was it's time. Some decent movies made in a particular style. As we approach the 20's it should become dated. If they want the same kind of thing but with more wokeness we need to have some fkn brains as consumers and drive it into the ground immediately.
 
What's hilarious is this guy made a billion dollar picture:

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Let commence the fucking.
 
I wanted to see this movie, but after not having time the first couple weekends, I had a couple people on social media kill my interest.

You know the type, self-sabatoging defeatists, who blame everyone else for their currently "unhappy" lives. Nevermind that they are only in their late 20's/early 30's and have plenty of time to turn their shit around. So I was subjected to plenty of memes/ posts quoting the movie, or talking about how they "have never been happy" or "I'll always be alone" .

Now I only think about those wankers, when I see anything about the film.
 
Joker is now the highest-grossing film ever to feature DC Comics’ “Clown Prince of Crime.” After this weekend, Joker’s worldwide box office total will climb to $1.017 billion. That’s enough for the Joaquin Phoenix-led film to surpass The Dark Knight ($1.004 billion), which starred Heath Ledger as the Joker.
 
Gave the movie a 9.

Phoenix acting is awesome. It was tense and awkward watching him. Felt bad for Joker but you can also tell he’ll kill without hesitation. Tense scene when his co workers visited.

Only thing I didn’t like was Thomas Wayne and Alfred. They were douchebags.

Last third of the movie felt like Jokers imagination. But I think he’s still going to start a riot because he thinks it’s the only way people can connect with him.
 
Joker> some idiot who actually thinks hes deadpool and cant act for shit
 
Update: November 20, 2019

JOKER Sequel in the Works as Director Todd Phillips Eyes More DC Origin Movies [Updated]

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On Oct. 7, Joker director Todd Phillips headed into Warner Bros. Pictures Group chairman Toby Emmerich's office, buoyed by the film's $96.2 million opening-weekend haul. Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter he proposed an outsized idea — the rights to develop a portfolio of DC characters' origin stories.

Emmerich balked. After all, Warner Bros. is very protective of the DC canon. And all other DC deals have been for one film, and one film only. But Phillips did emerge from the meeting with the rights to at least one other DC story, sources say. And now that Joker has crossed the $1 billion mark, a sequel is on the way. As the movie keeps raking in money overseas, Phillips is in talks to reprise his role as director for a second Joker outing (he and Scott Silver, who penned the gritty Joker screenplay, will write the follow-up), THR has learned.

Warners has sequel options in place for Joker star Joaquin Phoenix, who has emerged as a strong contender in the Oscar best actor race. The studio and Phillips' reps at CAA declined to comment.

Joker marks the fourth DC title to cross $1 billion, following in the footsteps of 2018's Aquaman ($1.15 billion), 2012's The Dark Knight Rises($1.08 billion) and 2008's The Dark Knight ($1 billion). But its $60 million budget is far less than those previous films, so it is almost assured of generating profits of more than $500 million (Warners has a 50 percent stake, while Village Roadshow and Bron Studios each have 25 percent).

The unexpected bounty also is generating a huge payday for Phillips, 48. Sources say the director will earn close to $100 million when the dust has settled (he deferred his upfront salary in exchange for a bigger slice of the adjusted gross). In fact, the deal is similar to one he struck with Warners before the first Hangover movie, which went on to earn a surprise $467.5 million worldwide in 2009 off a $35 million budget (the trilogy took in $1.42 billion).

With Joker, Phillips already toyed with the idea of Bruce Wayne's origins (a letter written by the mother of Arthur Fleck, aka Joker, implies that the two are half-brothers. But Penny Fleck might not have been telling the truth, given the Fleck family propensity to imagine things that haven't taken place).

Still, he won't be exploring Batman's backstory. That task is already in the hands of writer-director Matt Reeves, whose The Batman, starring Robert Pattinson, is coming to theaters June 25, 2021. Ditto Wonder Woman, whose adolescence on the hidden island of Themyscira was laid out by screenwriter Allan Heinberg in Patty Jenkins' 2017 film that grossed $821 million. (The sequel starring Gal Gadot, Wonder Woman 1984, is due out June 5, 2020.)

As for a DC villain origin story that could be mined next, Phillips would be well suited for either Darkseid, a tyrannical ruler who is worshipped by some as the god of evil, or Metropolis' power-mad one-percenter, Lex Luthor.

[Update: According to multiple inside sources from Deadline said that while a sequel to Joker is an obvious likely eventuality that makes all the financial sense in the world, at this point there are no deals for a sequel, nor even any negotiations with director Todd Phillips or his co-writer Scott Silver to craft one.

“Yeah that was written about today, and I have to be honest, it came out of nowhere. It referred to a meeting that was never had,” Phillips admitted to The Playlist, confirming Deadline’s story. “I thought it was anticipatory at best. Obviously, sequels have been discussed when a movie that cost $60 million made $1 billion, but we have not had any serious conversations about it.”

Phillips went on to describe the practicalities of negotiations that must be put into place before sequel talk can move beyond speculation. “We don’t have a deal with Joaquin, they don’t have a deal with me and the writer. I don’t know where that came from, honest to God,” Phillips professed. “It’s a hard thing to refute when you don’t have a Twitter account, and you’re not really out there. You just go, ‘Ok, this will disappear in 24 hours, let’s move on.’”]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...d-phillips-eyes-more-dc-origin-movies-1256255
 
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