Joe Rogan isnt sold on the Bing Bang theory finds Jesus resurrection more plausible

terrapin said:
are you unaware of what many mathematicians say the odds are that the universe was NOT created by something? its pretty crazy math man and in part is why so many quantum physicists are asking other quantum physicists to stop using the many worlds fabrication/mythology to explain it away.


just so you know... I don't put any stock one way or another in the latest science because I know it can and indeed may change but as it stands now the odds are for a creator.
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you just totally contradicted yourself sherbro

"many mathematicians say the odds are that the universe was NOT created by something?"

followed by-

"but as it stands now the odds are for a creator."


A "creator" is not, something????
 
Koro_11 said:
But it’s related, woke-ism is the religion of the secular liberal, and it borrows most of Christianity’s ideals, they just exclude the whole redemption, forgiveness, and kindness thing.

As for Rogan, I mean most of his cultural and political views are basically like those of a plain vanilla 90’s liberal democrat. Is he a bit obnoxious and overplayed at this point? Sure, but I think his overall message and stance is fairly well meaning and he doesn’t deserve all that hate just cause he’s a bit of a meathead.
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I don't think people on here hate Joe (with the possible exception of the guy who made the kids comment earlier), I think people just think he's become a bit of a grifter and worse a really bad MMA commentator.
 
ermac88 said:
you just totally contradicted yourself sherbro

"many mathematicians say the odds are that the universe was NOT created by something?"

followed by-

"but as it stands now the odds are for a creator."


A "creator" is not, something????
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I've been over this with a few religious people before and the best they can come up with was that god just somehow always existed or that he created himself somehow.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
I don't think even the bible says Christ created the heavens and earth does it?
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Not in the christian mythology.

In the prequel, Old testament, the big daddy in the sky created it, I believe in seven days.

The sequel, New Testament, set thousands of years later, the christ god walked the earth as something of a demi god.

His super powers were quite limited compared to his father in the sky. Infact his power were limited beyond those of other demigods such as Achilles, Arjuna or the mighty Hercules.
 
ermac88 said:
Not in the christian mythology.

In the prequel, Old testament, the big daddy in the sky created it, I believe in seven days.

The sequel, New Testament, set thousands of years later, the christ god walked the earth as something of a demi god.

His super powers were quite limited compared to his father in the sky. Infact his power were limited beyond those of other demigods such as Achilles, Arjuna or the mighty Hercules.
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Yeah if the bible was Game of Thrones I believe fans of season one would have found season two a bit soft.
 
Andy Capp said:
Well, to be fair, they didn't have the money compared to the Catholics, and when you think about why, you see they are not without shameful behavior of their own, of course. Are you familiar with the connection between the printing press and "indulgences"?

Even so, I agree they're pretty amazing accomplishments. Mind you, the reason for the plain nature of protestant places of worship may simply be their preachers stuffing their own pockets instead.

Back when I was a teenager, we lived next to a Pentecostal church. Next to it was a home provided to their pastor by the church, which was, in turn, owned by the attendees. Buddy had an RV like the one given to that tool on the supreme court as well. And wadda ya know, the flock woke up one day to find they'd been completely fleeced by this ram a lam a ding dong and the next thing you know, he's gone, the church is a daycare, and the pastor's house has been picked up on the cheap by some rando.
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Unfortunately, there is a lot of that is some churches.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
I don't think people on here hate Joe (with the possible exception of the guy who made the kids comment earlier), I think people just think he's become a bit of a grifter and worse a really bad MMA commentator.
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actually his standup, and what he and his legion of shitty podcast no-technique, no-writing crowd has done to comedy in general, is far more reason to hate him

watching Burn the Boats is like injecting pure AIDS into your every bodily receptacle. And he directly spawned The Gringo Papi, he literally pushed that dude. I mean, that verged on animal cruelty.
 
TheMaster said:
Needs to be evaluated more tbh because he has vacilated a lot on this. If its true that he has gone full on Jesus then what you say above is absolutely true. However he has argued against them in the past




Timing is suspicious, probably affraid he was too edgy so might be cancelled so wants to bring in an orthodox sheen onto things.


Even Joel Osteen is open to there being other paths if ones heart is good




This.
You dont need religion especially Abrahamic ones with their strange narratives in order to accept some form of "God".
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Joe is likely searching at this point, as a lot of people are. His views change over time. He likely is partly agnostic. I believe he used to be a hard atheist when younger.

Joel Osteen is not considered a Christian or good example by many in the Christian community. He is looked at as a fraud and what is called a "false teacher."

 
Hellowhosthat said:
I've been over this with a few religious people before and the best they can come up with was that god just somehow always existed or that he created himself somehow.
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That's the concept. God is uncreated: an eternal, immutable force existing outside (and simultaneously inside) of time itself.
 
It was a good read ~

THE BIG BANG NEVER HAPPENED​



Far ranging and provocative, THE BIG BANG NEVER HAPPENED is more than a critique of one of the primary theories of astronomy -- that the universe appeared out of nothingness in a single cataclysmic explosion ten to twenty billion years ago. Drawing on discoveries in particle physics and thermodynamics as well as on readings in history and philosophy, Eric J. Lerner confronts the values behind the Big Bang theory: the belief that mathematical formulae are superior to empirical observation; that the universe is finite and decaying; and that it could only come into being through some outside force. With inspiring boldness and scientific rigor, he offers a brilliantly orchestrated argument that generated explosive intellectual debate.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Sure, it's not a concept I can really get my head around though.
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Yet, somehow, you are able to get your head around the concept that everything around us came to existence from nothing in a second for no apparent reason or purpose?

You will accept the most unlikely and far fetched scenario of all, and you think that’s the more rational take?
 
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