Joe Rogan isnt sold on the Bing Bang theory finds Jesus resurrection more plausible

I haven't trashed catholics and actually pointed out good things.
I think people always understate how offensive they are when talking about Catholicism but yeah, i may have taken offense because I'm certainly a very anti-religion due to personal stuff.

Im sorry if i was a little too hostile to your beliefs.
 
But there is a simplicity as well. Its why a person with down syndrome can still be a Christian.

Yeah, i agree you don't need to be a theologian expert to be a Christian, but you kind of do need to be a theologian if you are going to levy a theological criticism of Catholicism.
 
Yeah, i agree you don't need to be a theologian expert to be a Christian, but you kind of do need to be a theologian if you are going to levy a theological criticism of Catholicism.
We can disagree and still be fine. All Catholic priests don't agree on every aspect and interpretation. I have never had issue debating theology and find it a good thing. Either it solidifies what I know or gives me a new perspective.
 
I think people always understate how offensive they are when talking about Catholicism but yeah, i may have taken offense because I'm certainly a very anti-religion due to personal stuff.

Im sorry if i was a little too hostile to your beliefs.
No worries bud. We are good.
 
Or, and hear me out- it’s turtles all the way down
Turtles, black holes, it's all the same eventually! 😂

So time goes forward towards entropy, entropy describes the centre of the singularity, time is the physical dimension of the 4D universe our black hole is in. We can't travel backwards through time because that's escaping the black hole we exist within.
 
Its called having an open mind and he isn't so big on himself that he cant admit hes wrong and change. Not that hes right here in either case but just to have this quality is respectable to me.

There are so many more boneheaded stubborn AF idiots out there who aren't willing to do this.


Ive been watching more JRE lately, sporadically but more than usual. Hes' been having a lot of Christian evangelists and supporters on lately. He's likely going to become born again some time soon.



First Trump, Now Jesus. Praise god hallelujah
 
You're gonna die tomorrow and you know it, there is no way out of it... you have no family or loved ones, there is nothing to lose and no possible consequences for you to worry about... is it ok for you to commit theft, sexual assault, murder??
No because I have empathy and would feel the suffering I am causing as it were my own.

If someone came and lobotomized me to remove that part of my brain and make me a psychopath then yeah it would feel ok and I probably would commit those acts. And so would you
 
the smelling salts did that to Joe
 
Yup. Not sure the hostility from Rod over the matter. As I mentioned, there are nuances like the different words for love in Greek that arent present in English (agape, eros, philia, and storge). Its why the Greek is also studied by many when they are looking to dig down into exact meanings.
Indeed, but its kind of weird to think the people that actually chose which books were canon were somehow god inspired to pick the right books, not not god inspired to ensure the books had the correct message in the first place.

They did a great job, largest religion on earth.



 
It's wrong in my opinion but it's not objectively wrong.
Ok, so your position at the end of the day is that there’s no such thing as right and wrong and any idea is as valid as the next, Nazis, slave owners, child molesters, all just as good as the Good Samaritan?
 
That only matters to some. One or 2 generations and that's forgotten.
I was always partial to the Buddhist idea using your life to throw a pebble in the pond. The act in and of itself doesn’t account for much but if everybody does it for long enough then eventually you’ve created a walkway across the water.
 
Ok, so your position at the end of the day is that there’s no such thing as right and wrong and any idea is as valid as the next, Nazis, slave owners, child molesters, all just as good as the Good Samaritan?

I think as a society we have decided what is right and wrong and I think those things make sense for our society and I agree with them but I don't think anything like that can be 100% objective.
 
Funny.... im reaching the age where im forgetting basic crap. How many simple words I have to google now.
About to turn 57 , I still play words with friends at a pretty high level although it takes me longer and I'm still pretty solid at jeopardy But fuck me it takes me forever to get through a book and if I put it down for too long (which I usually do) I forget what happened
 
About to turn 57 , I still play words with friends at a pretty high level although it takes me longer and I'm still pretty solid at jeopardy But fuck me it takes me forever to get through a book and if I put it down for too long (which I usually do) I forget what happened
Hahaha. Im 51. I feel ya brother.
 
I think people always understate how offensive they are when talking about Catholicism but yeah, i may have taken offense because I'm certainly a very anti-religion due to personal stuff.

Im sorry if i was a little too hostile to your beliefs.
Also thanks for saying this bud. I was going wheels up on a plane and couldn't correct my words.
 
They did a great job, largest religion on earth.



They plagiarized more than Led Zeppelin did.

The virgin birth/mutilation/resurrection shtick alone was exhaustive in the ancient world. Bacchus, Osiris, Adonis, etc, etc.

Paul never even mentions the Virgin birth. That didn't get added until later, with the Gospels of Luke and Matthew, and their accounts don't even agree with each other.
 
I think as a society we have decided what is right and wrong and I think those things make sense for our society and I agree with them but I don't think anything like that can be 100% objective.
Agreed. Basically, slavery was considered socially acceptable before the 19th century all over the world, and we would in all likelihood think it was OK if born back then. Morals are socialized.
 
I think as a society we have decided what is right and wrong and I think those things make sense for our society and I agree with them but I don't think anything like that can be 100% objective.

The Morality debate is far closer aligned to the nature vs nurture debate than a religious one imo.. religion has done extremely well to insert itself as a cause for morality and into the debate. But its got sweet f all to do with morality.

While the precise extent of innate morality is debated, there's growing evidence suggesting that humans have a predisposition to moral behavior, even at a young age. This doesn't mean morality is solely predetermined; social learning and cultural influences are also crucial in shaping moral development.
    • Neural Basis:
      Brain imaging studies have linked specific brain regions to moral decision-making, suggesting a biological foundation.
Influence of Social and Cultural Factors:



Morality likely involves a combination of innate predispositions and learned behaviors. Humans may be born with a capacity for moral judgment, but this capacity is refined and shaped by social experiences and cultural norms. The debate continues, but the consensus is that morality is not solely determined by genetics, nor is it entirely shaped by external factors; it is a complex interaction between the two.


  • Moral Development:
    While a basic moral sense may be present at birth, it continues to develop through social interactions, learning from parents, peers, and cultural norms.
 
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