Joe Rogan isnt sold on the Bing Bang theory finds Jesus resurrection more plausible

[Voodoo_Child906]

Well if on one end of the spectrum you have a lunatic flying an airplane into a building in the name of their religion, and on the other end of the spectrum you have some moron ridiculing the concept and using terms like "magical sky daddy", I'm definitely somewhere near the center (agnostic), but I choose to lean towards believing in creator a and a purpose to life because I firmly believe it makes for a better society and community.

Funny enough, if we're all honest about it we are absolutely all agnostics because none of us have any way of knowing one way or another so to take too strong of a stance on it in either directions seems pretty silly to me.

As for naturalism, again I don't know how you draw the conclusion that it's in any way more scientific when it gets you no close to the truth than faith does... I mean I get that it sounds like the more scientific approach, but if it gets you the same answer of "we don't have a clue" then it got you no further than just blind faith.

Well I don't think Naturalists are saying "We don't have a clue", they're saying that:

1) Abiogenesis - We are much closer and with more and more data coming in, we'll have a viable/empirical model of how life started on earth

2) Big Bang - We have empirical data that can bring us back to a few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang and can use that data to extrapolate back to a Planck time after the Big Bang. We also have unverified theoretical mathematical models that are candidates for a Theory of Everything, unifying all the fundamental forces.

I think these examples get the world much further than:

We don't know, so a God(s) did it.

 

[Deorum]

I actually went the other way. I was raised Catholic, but have distanced myself due to disagreements with the theology. Plus some of the more severe cases of child abuse makes me think the devil has infiltrated it. Now I find myself worshiping with Lutherans (Missouri Synod not the rainbow one). Which probably fits well with my family's German & Scot-Irish history of coming here and settling down in the mid-west.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I actually went the other way. I was raised Catholic, but have distanced myself due to disagreements with the theology. Plus some of the more severe cases of child abuse makes me think the devil has infiltrated it. Now I find myself worshiping with Lutherans (Missouri Synod not the rainbow one). Which probably fits well with my family's German & Scot-Irish history of coming here and settling down in the mid-west.

Pretty interesting. I was very Christian (but still a no good lefty liberal) and at one point was studying to be a pastor. I started asking some hard questions and not loving the answers I was getting from some very learned men and eventually lost my faith all together.
I did psilocybin therapy for my 40th birthday and one of my big take aways was doing more of my habits that were beneficial when I was a believer- journaling, prayer and meditating, studying the New Testament- all of these things made my life better even though there wasn’t a God pulling the strings to do so. I had thrown the immaculately concepted baby out with the holy water and it’s been pretty nice coming back to those rituals again.

 

[clutchCAT420]

Praise ALLAH!

 

[Deorum]

Mel Gibson Sets ‘Resurrection Of The Christ’ With Lionsgate; Follow-Up To Blockbuster ‘The Passion Of The Christ’

Mel Gibson has found a partner in Lionsgate for The Resurrection of the Christ, the follow-up to the 2004 hit The Passion of the Christ.

deadline.com

Mel Gibson has found a studio partner for The Resurrection of the Christ, the long awaited follow-up to the 2004 smash hit The Passion of the Christ. Lionsgate will join Gibson and Brucey Davey’s Icon Productions to mount a follow-up to the movie which long held the mark as the biggest domestic-grossing R-rated film of all time.

The announcement came Thursday from Adam Fogelson, chairman of Lionsgate Motion Picture Group, and Gibson. The Passion of the Christ debuted to an opening weekend of $83 million on its way to taking in $370 million in North American theaters and more than $610 million globally off a $30 million production budget.

“For many, many people across the globe, The Resurrection of the Christ is the most anticipated theatrical event in a generation. It is also an awe-inspiring and spectacularly epic theatrical film that is going to leave moviegoers worldwide breathless,” said Fogelson. “Mel is one of the greatest directors of our time, and this project is both deeply personal to him and the perfect showcase for his talents as a filmmaker. My relationship with Mel and Bruce dates back 30 years, and I am thrilled to be partnering with them once again on this landmark event for audiences.”

“Lionsgate’s brave, innovative spirit and nimble, can-do attitude have inspired me for a long time, and I couldn’t think of a more perfect distributor for The Resurrection of the Christ,” added Gibson. “I’ve enjoyed working with Adam and the team several times over recent years. I know the clever ingenuity, passion, and ambition the entire team commits to their projects and I’m confident they will bring everything they can to the release of this movie.”

 

[Cajun]

It's always a small delight to point out the language that the New Testament was originally written in. Just the other day, someone seemed to be under the assumption and impression that it was Aramaic and Hebrew. But it's not so. Koine Greek, actually. All 27 books.

Yup. Not sure the hostility from Rod over the matter. As I mentioned, there are nuances like the different words for love in Greek that arent present in English (agape, eros, philia, and storge). Its why the Greek is also studied by many when they are looking to dig down into exact meanings.

 

[Cajun]

Mel Gibson Sets ‘Resurrection Of The Christ’ With Lionsgate; Follow-Up To Blockbuster ‘The Passion Of The Christ’

Mel Gibson has found a partner in Lionsgate for The Resurrection of the Christ, the follow-up to the 2004 hit The Passion of the Christ.

deadline.com

Mel Gibson has found a studio partner for The Resurrection of the Christ, the long awaited follow-up to the 2004 smash hit The Passion of the Christ. Lionsgate will join Gibson and Brucey Davey’s Icon Productions to mount a follow-up to the movie which long held the mark as the biggest domestic-grossing R-rated film of all time.

The announcement came Thursday from Adam Fogelson, chairman of Lionsgate Motion Picture Group, and Gibson. The Passion of the Christ debuted to an opening weekend of $83 million on its way to taking in $370 million in North American theaters and more than $610 million globally off a $30 million production budget.

“For many, many people across the globe, The Resurrection of the Christ is the most anticipated theatrical event in a generation. It is also an awe-inspiring and spectacularly epic theatrical film that is going to leave moviegoers worldwide breathless,” said Fogelson. “Mel is one of the greatest directors of our time, and this project is both deeply personal to him and the perfect showcase for his talents as a filmmaker. My relationship with Mel and Bruce dates back 30 years, and I am thrilled to be partnering with them once again on this landmark event for audiences.”

“Lionsgate’s brave, innovative spirit and nimble, can-do attitude have inspired me for a long time, and I couldn’t think of a more perfect distributor for The Resurrection of the Christ,” added Gibson. “I’ve enjoyed working with Adam and the team several times over recent years. I know the clever ingenuity, passion, and ambition the entire team commits to their projects and I’m confident they will bring everything they can to the release of this movie.”

Interesting to see what he does with it.

 

[San Marino]

This Joe Rogan?

Still dumb after all these years.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Well if on one end of the spectrum you have a lunatic flying an airplane into a building in the name of their religion, and on the other end of the spectrum you have some moron ridiculing the concept and using terms like "magical sky daddy", I'm definitely somewhere near the center (agnostic), but I choose to lean towards believing in creator a and a purpose to life because I firmly believe it makes for a better society and community.

Funny enough, if we're all honest about it we are absolutely all agnostics because none of us have any way of knowing one way or another so to take too strong of a stance on it in either directions seems pretty silly to me.

As for naturalism, again I don't know how you draw the conclusion that it's in any way more scientific when it gets you no close to the truth than faith does... I mean I get that it sounds like the more scientific approach, but if it gets you the same answer of "we don't have a clue" then it got you no further than just blind faith.

Couldn't the purpose just be that through millennia of trial and error we have found that the most prosperous society (at least for us) is one where we have a society and laws which allow us to go about our business with an expectation of being safe?

 

[Phlog]

I think the big bang was the birth of the higher dimension black hole, upon which our universe exists as a holographic projection on its boundary.

Gravity is a distortion upon that event horizon caused by the interaction of the higher dimension upon it.

Black holes are computers, our existence is the encoding of the information of the higher dimensional universe.

Its possibly black holes all the way down and yes reality is often stranger than fiction. We have no reason to think our recently evolved meat minds could make head nor tail of it all.

 

[Koro_11]

Couldn't the purpose just be that through millennia of trial and error we have found that the most prosperous society (at least for us) is one where we have a society and laws which allow us to go about our business with an expectation of being safe?

That could be the purpose we made up just because it serves our interest.

The question is are there such things as morals and a purpose that transcends just the material world?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

That could be the purpose we made up just because it serves our interest.

The question is are there such things as morals and a purpose that transcends just the material world?

I can't really see how there can be to be honest. I think it's just what allows us to live more productively and more cooperatively.

 

[Koro_11]

Well I don't think Naturalists are saying "We don't have a clue", they're saying that:

1) Abiogenesis - We are much closer and with more and more data coming in, we'll have a viable/empirical model of how life started on earth

2) Big Bang - We have empirical data that can bring us back to a few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang and can use that data to extrapolate back to a Planck time after the Big Bang. We also have unverified theoretical mathematical models that are candidates for a Theory of Everything, unifying all the fundamental forces.

I think these examples get the world much further than:

We don't know, so a God(s) did it.

They get you nowhere on the creator vs no creator argument because you always end up with the question "ok, but what set that in motion", and "ok, but what created those forces".

 

[Koro_11]

I can't really see how there can be to be honest. I think it's just what allows us to live more productively and more cooperatively.

You're gonna die tomorrow and you know it, there is no way out of it... you have no family or loved ones, there is nothing to lose and no possible consequences for you to worry about... is it ok for you to commit theft, sexual assault, murder??

 

[Squarechoke]

"Magical guy in the sky" is also a pretty simple interpretation to be fair.

Take a stab at explaining where the energy came from that created the Big Bang to begin with.

You don't have to know the answer to every possible question to refute made up solutions that aren't based on any evidence (especially when they contradict available evidence). Only the unintelligent fail to realize that it's better to say that you don't know than to just make up an answer.

 

[Yehudim]

Well if on one end of the spectrum you have a lunatic flying an airplane into a building in the name of their religion, and on the other end of the spectrum you have some moron ridiculing the concept and using terms like "magical sky daddy", I'm definitely somewhere near the center (agnostic), but I choose to lean towards believing in creator a and a purpose to life because I firmly believe it makes for a better society and community.

Funny enough, if we're all honest about it we are absolutely all agnostics because none of us have any way of knowing one way or another so to take too strong of a stance on it in either directions seems pretty silly to me.

As for naturalism, again I don't know how you draw the conclusion that it's in any way more scientific when it gets you no close to the truth than faith does... I mean I get that it sounds like the more scientific approach, but if it gets you the same answer of "we don't have a clue" then it got you no further than just blind faith.

I like how you put 9/11 terrorists in the same world as atheist redditor edgelords saying cringy shit

 

[Koro_11]

I like how you put 9/11 terrorists in the same world as atheist redditor edgelords saying cringy shit

Did I put them in the same category? Or did I say they’re on completely opposite ends of the spectrum you fool.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I think the big bang was the birth of the higher dimension black hole, upon which our universe exists as a holographic projection on its boundary.

Gravity is a distortion upon that event horizon caused by the interaction of the higher dimension upon it.

Black holes are computers, our existence is the encoding of the information of the higher dimensional universe.

Its possibly black holes all the way down and yes reality is often stranger than fiction. We have no reason to think our recently evolved meat minds could make head nor tail of it all.

Or, and hear me out- it’s turtles all the way down

 

[DoctorTaco]

The question is are there such things as morals and a purpose that transcends just the material world?

In a sense, I suppose so. The legacy we leave behind transcends the material world and exists in the hearts and minds of people.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

This Joe Rogan?
View attachment 1096243
Still dumb after all these years.

Wait til he finds out all other nuts do grow on trees and that peanuts aren't nuts they're a legume

He's almost 60 , same as me , I remember being like Joe and being amazed learning this but it was back when I was a kid ...