Crime Joe pardons Hunter

[SKYNET]

This thread is about Biden pardoning his son. It's a terrible look for Joe and Dems considering he said he wouldn't.

It's pretty fucked up.

What Trump did doesn't mitigate that. This is the time to be consistent and condemn this. It's not a time to whatabout Trump.

 

[UberHere]

It's oddly specific.

It's hypocritical. It gives ammo to the side we are supposed to have moral superiority over. It looks bad optically. It totally fails to address the pivotal times we live in and the real battle that is taking place between an admittedly corrupted government and an entirely new dimension of degradation, corruption and divisive hatred that trump represents and is the figurehead of.

You’re really struggling to come to terms accepting that the Dems are not morally superior to the arch villain who is Trump. You’ll get there eventually

 

[Sakuraba'sEar]

This thread is about Biden pardoning his son. It's a terrible look for Joe and Dems considering he said he wouldn't.

It's pretty fucked up.

What Trump did doesn't mitigate that. This is the time to be consistent and condemn this. It's not a time to whatabout Trump.

Agreed, but Trump whataboutism makes up roughly 80% of the wr left's banter. I didn't expect that would change, even with the landslide victory and obvious establishment dem corruption

 

[ChosenOne]

you mean the statute of limitations on bribery and corruption from the Burisma and China money right? The things you claimed never happened.

Yes that is what Trump and Kash Patel have vowed to weaponize and use against the Bidens.

We have seen the play book thru endless years of investigations by Jim Jordan and James Comer resulting in nothing. And before that the Obama, and Hillary Clinton ones for more than 8 years.

Trump knows he cannot get any of these people legitimately, as they committed no crimes but he recognizes he can make their lives hell with investigations and if they, so much as have a relative who stumbled in life, and they can dig up any crimes on them, settled or not, they can revive them and at least get some degree of revenge by going after family members.

So absolutely Joe Biden, any father with the power, would pardon his son in that situation.

 

[Source]

This thread is about Biden pardoning his son. It's a terrible look for Joe and Dems considering he said he wouldn't.

It's pretty fucked up.

What Trump did doesn't mitigate that. This is the time to be consistent and condemn this. It's not a time to whatabout Trump.

Just straight up plagiarism? At least you should credit the author. TBF there have been quite a few posts from righties here trying to strawman if Trump did this. Responding to those kinds of posts is fair game.

 

[terrapin]

You’re really struggling to come to terms accepting that the Dems are not morally superior to the arch villain who is Trump. You’ll get there eventually

No I'm not man. I have sherdog to remind me me daily that the Republicans are much MUCH worse in every single way. There is a thread actually celebrating Trump' mean tweets on here man
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You guys elected trump, a uniquely dastardly villain and amoral character. You guys can never have the moral high ground with trump at the head of your party and it's not even close.

 

[UberHere]

No I'm not man. I have sherdog to remind me me daily that the Republicans are much MUCH worse in every single way. There is a thread actually celebrating Trump' mean tweets on here man
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You guys elected trump, a uniquely dastardly villain and amoral character. You guys can never have the moral high ground with trump at the head of your party and it's not even close.

I think your first problem is selective reading of Sherdog threads.

The other one is thinking mean tweets and toxic engagements are worse than censuring public exchange of ideas.

But hey at least he’s not the Antichrist

 

[White Whale]

Stephen A is jumping on the right wing bandwagon. His show is irrelevant now and he knows what gets clicks

The blatant hypocrisy of Democrats is so bad everyone with a following has to call them out.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Yes that is what Trump and Kash Patel have vowed to weaponize and use against the Bidens.

We have seen the play book thru endless years of investigations by Jim Jordan and James Comer resulting in nothing. And before that the Obama, and Hillary Clinton ones for more than 8 years.

Trump knows he cannot get any of these people legitimately, as they committed no crimes but he recognizes he can make their lives hell with investigations and if they, so much as have a relative who stumbled in life, and they can dig up any crimes on them, settled or not, they can revive them and at least get some degree of revenge by going after family members.

So absolutely Joe Biden, any father with the power, would pardon his son in that situation.

so you still believe it never happened...gotcha. Never change...keep losing

 

[terrapin]

Yes that is what Trump and Kash Patel have vowed to weaponize and use against the Bidens.

We have seen the play book thru endless years of investigations by Jim Jordan and James Comer resulting in nothing. And before that the Obama, and Hillary Clinton ones for more than 8 years.

Trump knows he cannot get any of these people legitimately, as they committed no crimes but he recognizes he can make their lives hell with investigations and if they, so much as have a relative who stumbled in life, and they can dig up any crimes on them, settled or not, they can revive them and at least get some degree of revenge by going after family members.

So absolutely Joe Biden, any father with the power, would pardon his son in that situation.

It is not true that everyone who is a father would pardon their son. My father was an alcoholic and so I spent a number of years in Al-Anon, which is a program that helps you to deal with alcoholism in a loved one. It is very often the case that not saving your son or father or relative from the consequences of their addiction is the very thing that heals them and causes them to turn their lives around.


Enabling your child is especially damaging and getting them out of the troubles that they create only helps them maintain the illusion that they can continue to live the way they do. It can be the height of selfishness and weakness to save a loved one from the consequences of their actions.

Detaching with love and allowing your child or loved one to experience the full consequences of their behavior is often the very best route for helping them.

Not to mention that is gives the right further cause to claim we arenas corrupt as they are in a time where the only weapon we have that trump doesn't have is truth and integrity.

In a race to the bottom trump wins. If we fight his fight trump wins every time.

 

[ChosenOne]

This thread is about Biden pardoning his son. It's a terrible look for Joe and Dems considering he said he wouldn't.

It's pretty fucked up.

What Trump did doesn't mitigate that. This is the time to be consistent and condemn this. It's not a time to whatabout Trump.

I disagree.

Politics creates certain untenable, no win positions and this is one of them.

Lets say when the Hunter investigations began Joe preempted them with a pardon. That would ACTUALLY be denying justice being done.

Joe allowed the process to go forward. He allowed society to judge his son's actions, and if he had answered the press questions of 'will you pardon your son if convicted', with either 'yes' or 'i refuse to say what i will do', it would have created not just a media frenzy but it would have inserted him in to the trials as a hanging spectre that whatever is done may be made moot.


I think it was the right thing to do, to allow the process and the judgement. Hunter, like Kushner's father, is now an adjudicated criminal and that does not go away.

A POTUS does not relinquish his right to deliver mercy thru the pardon, as Trump did, CLinton did, Carter did, and now Joe did.

This 'you must let your son go to jail for the greater good', to me is simply naive thinking, and unless you can resolve the issue i point out at the beginning, i think Joe really did this the only way he could.

 

[terrapin]

I think your first problem is selective reading of Sherdog threads.

The other one is thinking mean tweets and toxic engagements are worse than censuring public exchange of ideas.

But hey at least he’s not the Antichrist

If you can back any of those slanderous lies up with data id be happy to listen. Otherwise it's just your opinion man.

 

[ChosenOne]

so you still believe it never happened...gotcha. Never change...keep losing

I am sure James Comer and Jim Jordan committees will expose it soon, along with Benghazi and the other things they talked about reviving.

Because... you know... the magats are convinced if you just keep investigating you will eventually prove it.

 

[Source]

@BFoe is the dumbest poster I’ve come across on here here and that’s actually saying a lot.

You must have missed Rocco when he was here. That guy was a real mouth breathing water-head along with being a terrible human being.

 

[Scerpi]

This thread is about Biden pardoning his son. It's a terrible look for Joe and Dems considering he said he wouldn't.

It's pretty fucked up.

What Trump did doesn't mitigate that. This is the time to be consistent and condemn this. It's not a time to whatabout Trump.

A major symptom of terminal TDS is that every thread must be derailed and blamed on Trump

lol

 

[USA!USA!]

Never fully trust or deify politicians. They and their administration will lie to your face.

Every time.

Without fail.

 

[jimjamjammer]

It's oddly specific.

It's hypocritical. It gives ammo to the side we are supposed to have moral superiority over. It looks bad optically. It totally fails to address the pivotal times we live in and the real battle that is taking place between an admittedly corrupted government and an entirely new dimension of degradation, corruption and divisive hatred that trump represents and is the figurehead of. It's bad strategy. It discredits democrats

It's an opportunity for all Democrats to speak out against what he has just done and condemn it and thus separate the Democratic party from its figurehead and retain its integrity.

Some are speaking out against it thankfully. Unfortunately some are still trying to justify it.

It is very specific time wise and odd that it covers crimes he may have committed.

 

[UberHere]

so you still believe it never happened...gotcha. Never change...keep losing

Remember this thread? That was awesome.

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[ChosenOne]

It is not true that everyone who is a father would pardon their son. My father was an alcoholic and so I spent a number of years in Al-Anon, which is a program that helps you to deal with alcoholism in a loved one. It is very often the case that not saving your son or father or relative from the consequences of their addiction is the very thing that heals them and causes them to turn their lives around.


Enabling your child is especially damaging and getting them out of the troubles that they create only helps them maintain the illusion that they can continue to live the way they do. It can be the height of selfishness and weakness to save a loved one from the consequences of their actions.

Detaching with love and allowing your child or loved one to experience the full consequences of their behavior is often the very best route for helping them.

Not to mention that is gives the right further cause to claim we arenas corrupt as they are in a time where the only weapon we have that trump doesn't have is truth and integrity.

In a race to the bottom trump wins. If we fight his fight trump wins every time.

You make my point. thanks.

Yes if your father is in the throws of his alcoholism, then rescuing him from consequences can do more harm than good and a tough love parent would recognize that.

Similarly, if your father had escaped his alcoholism dependency for a decade, reformed his life, made amends for his crimes, but the system wanted to open them up and put him in jail for them, a good father would pardon his son, knowing that this rehash and secondary punishment would be the thing likely to tip him back into addiction.

 

[UberHere]

If you can back any of those slanderous lies up with data id be happy to listen. Otherwise it's just your opinion man.

Dude….. it’s already been exposed that the DNC colluded with social media to censor anything that went against the “official narrative”. Not to mention Kamala Harris argued on national television that Trump should remain banned from Twitter. Cmon man, pull your head out of the sand.