Elections Jesse Ventura calls JD Vance's criticism of Walz's military record ‘despicable’

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Pete Buttigieg reacts to Vance's comments on Walz's military service​








Military service​




Walz during Army Basic Training, 1981
With his father's encouragement, Walz enlisted in the Army National Guard the day after he turned 17.[4][13] His father had served in the Korean War and paid for his education degree with the G.I. Bill,[13] and he wanted his son to have the same opportunity.[13]

Walz served in the National Guard for 24 years after enlisting in 1981.[32] During his military career, he had postings in Arkansas, Texas, the Arctic Circle, New Ulm, Minnesota, Italy, and elsewhere.[32] He trained in heavy artillery.[32] During his service, he worked in disaster response postings following floods and tornadoes and was deployed overseas.[32] In 1989, he earned the title of Nebraska Citizen-Soldier of the Year.[33][34][35]

In 2001, Walz completed the 20 years of service needed for retirement from the Guard, but he reenlisted after the September 11, 2001 attacks.[36] In August 2003, Walz deployed with the Minnesota National Guard to Vicenza, Italy, for nine months to serve with the European Security Force as part of Operation Enduring Freedom.[37][38][39] Walz attained the rank of command sergeant major near the end of his service[40] and briefly was the senior enlisted soldier of 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery Regiment.[41] His decorations included the Army Commendation Medal and two Army Achievement Medals.[42][43]

In February 2005, Walz submitted official documents to run for the U.S. House of Representatives.[44] In March, the National Guard announced a possible deployment to Iraq within the next two years for Walz's battalion.[45] Walz publicly said he would deploy if called upon.[46] He retired from military service in May 2005, and Fox News reported that the Minnesota National Guard told them Walz had submitted his retirement papers five to seven months before he retired.[37][45][47] He later explained that he wanted to focus on his campaign for Congress and did not want to violate the Hatch Act, which forbids some political activities by federal government employees.[44][45]

During his political career, Republicans, notably Donald Trump Jr., Charlie Kirk, and Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance, have used the timing of his military retirement as a smear campaign that has been compared to swiftboating.[45][48][49] A National Guard colleague, Joe Eustice, recalled that at the time Walz retired, his unit's deployment was only a "rumor" and not yet confirmed, while his enlisted superior, Doug Julin, said that Walz bypassed his retirement approval, instead receiving retirement approval from two higher-ranked officers.[50][51][52] The Minnesota National Guard confirmed that Walz retired two months before his unit was officially notified in July 2005 of its future deployment to Iraq; it deployed in March 2006.[36][53]

Walz was trained on, carried, and used weapons of war when the U.S. was at war, but he did not deploy to an active combat zone during his service.[54] At a meeting about reducing gun violence in 2018, Walz argued for some kinds of reform and said "We can make sure that those weapons of war, that I carried in war, is the only place where those weapons are at."[55] Responding to the phrase "carried in war", Vance noted that Walz hadn't served in combat and accused him of “stolen valor”.[36][56] The Harris campaign responded that Walz “misspoke”.[55]

Though he was a command sergeant major at the time of his retirement, Walz's final military rank for retirement benefit purposes is master sergeant, as he had not completed the required academic coursework to remain a command sergeant major by his final day of service. The downgrade of one rank was effective from the day before his military retirement.[32][44] A public affairs officer for the Minnesota National Guard in 2018 said it was "legitimate for Walz to say he served as a command sergeant major", while Walz's former battalion commander, John Kolb, described his usage of the title as "frocking".[57] A reference to Walz on his official campaign website as a "retired command sergeant major" was later updated to read he "once served at the command sergeant major rank".[5
 
I'm a Navy veteran. I have no problem with Walz's service or with him deciding to retire before deploying. It was his personal choice to make after years of service. I was a non-combatant and can't judge him through the lense of anyone who served in a similar role to his.

Walz was free to decide that he was needed at home more than his unit might have needed him overseas. That's his prerogative. Vance deployed to Iraq in a non-combative role of which he's been candid about from what I've seen.

Walz was less candid about his service; having told the whopper of a lie that he "carried a weapon in war". What war? What weapon? Did he carry Ozempic during his own personal war on obesity?

Vance is entitled to his opinion as a Marine who deployed to Iraq holding judgement on a fellow soldier who could have deployed but chose not to. I wouldn't bag on Walz myself concerning this; I'd solely focus on the lie of carrying a weapon in war.

When MSNBC, CBS, CNN, WaPo or such have to label your lie as a "He misspoke about being in combat" to cover for you you know you f*cked up. Walz f*cked up and told a lie that is a bit of a kick in the teeth to those who actually deployed while he sat around abroad.
 
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Walz is a complete fraud. From lying about carrying a weapon in a war, to wearing a hat with badges he did not earn.

This guy is a snake, just like the Godless fools that support him.
You're not wrong but you still love and watch the movie Bloodsport.
 
I'm a Navy veteran. I have no problem with Walz's service or with him deciding to retire before deploying. It was his personal choice to make after years of service. I was a non-combatant and can't judge him through the lense of anyone who served in a similar role to his.

Walz was free to decide that he was needed at home more than his unit might have needed him overseas. That's his prerogative. Vance deployed to Iraq in a non-combative role of which he's been candid about from what I've seen.

Walz was less candid about his service; having told the whopper of a lie that he "carried a weapon in war". What war? What weapon? Did he carry Ozempic during his own personal war on obesity?

Vance is entitled to his opinion as a Marine who deployed to Iraq holding judgement on a fellow soldier who could have deployed but chose not to. I wouldn't bag on Walz myself concerning this; I'd solely focus on the lie of carrying a weapon in war.

When MSNBC, CBS, CNN, WaPo or such have to label your lie as a "He misspoke about being in combat" to cover for you you know you f*cked up. Walz f*cked up and told a lie that is a bit of a kick in the teeth to those who actually deployed while he sat around abroad.

Walz may have misspoke but did you watch Pete Buttigieg response to that? It's one thing to say that comment that Walz which he lied about. But how many times has Trump lied about things? The guy is a lying machine.

You can't be critical with one guy lying, when you have the guy your supporting lying almost all the time. Every time he speaks. For some reason it's ok for Trump to bullshit his way to the White House.
 
Other service make fun of eachother all the time. National Guard is low man on totem pole. But he did lie so being called out on it is not wrong from someone that did serve. We are sick of lying politicians. Biden did it and was called out on so many things--his education, civil rights march, political record etc..Only fair Walz gets it too.
 
Walz may have misspoke but did you watch Pete Buttigieg response to that? It's one thing to say that comment that Walz which he lied about. But how many times has Trump lied about things? The guy is a lying machine.

You can't be critical with one guy lying, when you have the guy your supporting lying almost all the time. Every time he speaks. For some reason it's ok for Trump to bullshit his way to the White House.
Wait... all politicians lie and millions of retards keep voting for them?
 
Wait... all politicians lie and millions of retards keep voting for them?

No one lies like Trump, he's the worst. And he's a convicted criminal to. He's a shit person. I don't know how people even like the guy or think he's fit to be President again. Tell me how many lies does Harris and Walz compared to Trump?
 
I get some bad vibes off Walz. He's clearly a worm willing to lie if he thinks he can get away with it. But I sense something more, something very dark with this guy...

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...and if you ask me, I believe the man is into scat activities, possibly consumption... Juss sayin...

People aren't criticizing his years in the guard or wherever he worked, rather his use of titles he didn't hold, right?
 
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Walz may have misspoke but did you watch Pete Buttigieg response to that? It's one thing to say that comment that Walz which he lied about. But how many times has Trump lied about things? The guy is a lying machine.

You can't be critical with one guy lying, when you have the guy your supporting lying almost all the time. Every time he speaks. For some reason it's ok for Trump to bullshit his way to the White House.

They're all liars to some extent. Biden, Kamala, Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc.

A huge difference is how the media treats them. One politician gets a "He misspoke". Another gets a "He lied". I'm not a Republican and I largely hate the two party system but I hate the political bias of our news organizations more.

If lying is bad and Walz lied then hold him accountable. Hold them all accountable. It shouldn't be a "But the other guy...." thing to anyone who isn't a hypocrite or won't flip flop on beliefs because of party affiliation or bias.
 
They're all liars to some extent. Biden, Kamala, Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc.

A huge difference is how the media treats them. One politician gets a "He misspoke". Another gets a "He lied". I'm not a Republican and I largely hate the two party system but I hate the political bias of our news organizations more.

If lying is bad and Walz lied then hold him accountable. Hold them all accountable. It shouldn't be a "But the other guy...." thing to anyone who isn't a hypocrite or won't flip flop on beliefs because of party affiliation or bias.

Yes they are all liars to a degree indeed. I'm not saying any of them are perfect human beings. Yes hold Walz accountable about lying about what he did in the service. But come on that's nothing compared to what Donald Trump has done for many years. The guy is a joke. He lies more than anyone out there, no redeeming qualities at all imo.

But thanks for your civil response.
 
I get some bad vibes off Walz. He's clearly a worm willing to lie if he thinks he can get away with it. But I sense something more, something very dark with this guy...

People aren't criticizing his years in the guard or wherever he worked, rather his use of titles he didn't hold, right?

No, literally held all of the titles he claimed.

The only minor caveat is that he did not retire at his highest rank because he did not hold it for 3 years lol.
 
No, literally held all of the titles he claimed.

The only minor caveat is that he did not retire at his highest rank because he did not hold it for 3 years lol.
I don't make the rules, it's not that he didn't hold the rank it's that he falsely defined himself with the title and allowed others to praise him as if he held said title(s). It doesn't move the needle for me either way, his socialist justifications and myopic deviance sympathy is enough for me not to vote for him...

He's probably just a distraction from the complete dumpster fire Harris is, but only so much a distraction as to still be put over with the ignorant emotion voters...
 
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