Crime Jeffrey Epstein Dead

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But this new wave of nuts have been formed almost as the polar extreme to them

Think of it in terms of being a proactive strategy, rather than a reactive solution and I think you'll understand it better...

 

[MikeMcMann]

Yeah, I don’t really understand what’s happening here. Why NOT ask questions? I’m not saying it wasn’t a suicide, but the circumstances are at least unusual. Typically in cases like this, people demonstrate what I consider a healthy dose of institutional distrust. But not in this instance. And I’m not sure why.

As i said. I can only assume we have nuts on one side rising up to counter the nuts on the CT side. Balance in the Force, as they say.

I think some people have got frustrated by CTers (rightly) who try to pretend questions still exist about, say, the earths shape and that they can provide a whole bunch of questions that people avoid or will not answer. If you go down the rabbit hole with the CTers, you end up easily showing them they are wrong on the thousand questions they ask but they don' even address your facts. They just keep throwing up more and more questions, moving on and continuing to say there is doubt. And then they cut and paste it all the next time. An endless circle jerk that goes no where as the CTers do not truly want answers they just want to create doubt and a belief there are questions.


That is NOT what is being done here. No conclusions have yet been found and this is very much an open investigation. The question here are the ones the AG and others are rightly investigating.

But I think these anti-Cters who are as nuts as the CTers are assuming that regardless of the findings at the end of this investigation the CT tactic will still apply and they are wrongly and stupidly lashing out under that assumption.

This is a discussion forum. Its purpose is to foster us into exactly this type of discussion while we await conclusions.

 

[SBJJ]

Nope. Radio silence. Only report I read was that it was "unlikely" any footage from inside his cell was captured. Absolutely nothing on where cameras are located in the prison, if they were functional, or whatever.

Just more of nothing to see here.

This is why I fucking hate our media

Frank Drevin from the Naked Gun could figure this out. There had to be enough functional cameras in this place to piece together where people were in vicinity of his cell during this time.

Media just buys this shit without demanding answers.

 

[The Merchant]

She has several vids up with different outlets.

Her reporting is waaaaay beyond anything anyone else is doing.

That part about Carbyne blows my mind. Might be the creepiest part of this whole story

Heard a lot about her but havent actually heard her myself. Thanks for the video.

Any idea if shes suicidal? Addicted to drugs? Think she makes it out of this unscathed?

According to another person who was posted on here earlier (Ryan Dawson) she has been copy pasting his research, which has been on his website for ages.

I'm not sure if you guys have heard of the cartographer's trick called a "trap street".

"In cartography, a trap street is a fictitious entry in the form of a misrepresented street on a map, often outside the area the map nominally covers, for the purpose of "trapping" potential copyright violators of the map who, if caught, would be unable to explain the inclusion of the "trap street" on their map as innocent. On maps that are not of streets, other "copyright trap" features (such as nonexistent towns, or mountains with the wrong elevations) may be inserted or altered for the same purpose"

Well Dawson had a false number in his reports, that folk would only notice if they went to the source material. He claims Webb's "own work" has that false number and has shown the original documents showing the number to be false. so it looks like she copied his work and never worked from the original documents.

I've not looked that deeply into it, as don't use either for information anyway, however that's a smart trick from Dawson and on face value seems he is right, so perhaps her getting a big push while dawson languishes in obscurity means something.

I have no idea.

 

[Bamboozled]

 

[The Merchant]

That's a creepy comment. Thanks for unnerving me.

Dont you think it always feels that way? If we cant talk about this, then what are we talking about?

You got an international financier running a honeypot that has some of the world's most prominent people involved, connections to heavily influential people, is the money behind Ehud Barak's software.

That is the story.

You got this guy in full position to blackmail highly important people and you got him funding software that directly ties your phone into emergency response centers.

The software is being developed by a foreign company staffed mainly with intelligence operatives from that foreign country. It has full potential to gather all kinds of data on you.

Like a cleaver dangling over a baby, it should be obvious to anyone this ain't right.

Don't worry. We have an activist here reading out the names and trying the phone numbers of folk in the black book, while doing 30 minute podcasts about Prince Andrew's involvement too.

You guys are way down the list of priorities.

https://www.youtube.com/user/derickatt/videos

 

[Bamboozled]

"Just asking questions"

Example

"How did steel beams melt to jet fuel?"

"Oh steel loses its structural integrity at the temperature jet fuel burns at? Well why does the twin towers collapse look like a controlled demolition?"

"Oh the beams gave out and the floors collapsed top down? Well why did people report hearing explosions?"

"Oh its plausible that was just air moving from fires? Well what about the fact that the buildings owner got terrorist insurance?"

"Look man I'm just asking questions"

Basically it's someone who pretends they are not arguing from the stance that an event was a conspiracy, and then proceeding to finding the evidence to support their theory.

Whenever they get a question answered, they come up with new questions.

Maybe because single factor analysis isn't fucking reasonable for such big problems?

 

[The Merchant]

I assure you that when the military officials come to your house to investigate your Sherdog post history, they are quite nice and understanding.

I thought you all lived in the land of the free, i'm not worried about anyone coming to my door, or anything like that.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

They let Epstein go home and get laid while he was supposed to be in jail. <45>

This fucker had to be intelligence, there's no way they'd let a regular rich pervert off that lightly. He was living better in jail than almost anyone living free.

Officials let Jeffrey Epstein spend time at Palm Beach mansion during jail sentence

Jeffrey Epstein’s controversial plea deal in Florida was even more lenient than initially believed — thanks to sheriff’s officials who allowed the convicted sex offender to return to his Palm Beach mansion for hours at a time.

Officials with the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office approved Epstein leaving his office each day to return to his home in July 2009 while on a post-conviction work-release program, according to internal emails obtained by WPBF 25 News.

Logs show that deputies who were paid to oversee Epstein remained in his driveway for two to three hours while he was inside — leaving him free to allegedly continue sexually abusing young women.

Epstein was accused in a 53-page, 2007 federal indictment of grooming underage girls to have sex with him — but cut a wrist-slap deal that allowed him to plead guilty to a state charge of soliciting prostitution with one minor under the age of 18.

He was let off the hook in the federal case and served 13 months of an 18-month jail sentence during which he was permitted to leave the lockup for 12 hours a day, six days a week under a work-release program.

Two women, Katlyn Doe and Priscilla Doe, who filed suit against Epstein and his estate this week claimed they had sex with him while he was on work-release.

The sheriff’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment from WPBF.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/22/offic...e-at-palm-beach-mansion-during-jail-sentence/

 

[SBJJ]

Honestly, is there anyone at this point that still believes this guy was not intelligence

 

[The Merchant]

Can someone explain the charge soliciting prostitution from a minor or whatever it is called.

In my country you can't consent as a minor so you cannot be a prostitute it's just called rape of minor.

How did this work in the US legal system? Children can legally sell sex in the US?

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Jeffrey Epstein’s Intellectual Enabler

How did Epstein meet so many luminaries in the worlds of science and technology? It all might trace back to literary agent John Brockman.

If you are an accomplished science or technology writer, your books are probably handled by the most powerful literary agency in the field: the famous Brockman Inc., started by John Brockman and now run by Max Brockman, his son. As it happens, Max is also my agent—and has been since my first book was sold in 2009. As agencies go, I only have positive things to report: The Brockmans fight for their authors and get us very handsome advances. That’s what agents are for.

Lately, John has been in the news for other reasons, namely because of his troubling connections to Jeffrey Epstein, the so-called financier who reportedly hanged himself earlier this month while facing federal charges of sex-trafficking. Epstein participated in the Edge Foundation’s annual questions, and attended its “billionaires’ dinners.” Brockman may also be the reason why so many prominent academics—from Steven Pinker to Daniel Dennett—have found themselves answering awkward questions about their associations with Epstein; they are clients of Brockman. Marvin Minsky, the prominent MIT scientist who surfaced as one of Epstein’s island buddies? A client of Brockman’s. Joi Ito, the director of the elite research facility MIT Media Lab, who has recently acknowledgedextensive ties to Epstein? Also, a client of Brockman’s.

Knowing that Brockman likes to brag about all the famous people he has met and befriended—you can easily count the seconds until he name-checks “Marshall” (McLuhan) or “Andy” (Warhol) or “Gregory“ (Bateson) in a casual conversation—I decided to look over our correspondence over the past decade and see if he might have name-dropped Epstein somewhere. And, of course, he did. Browsing through our email correspondence, I stumbled upon a most peculiar email from September 12, 2013.


It was very laconic: “JE, FYI, JB”—followed by my short bio and some media clippings. (You can check the entire PDF of the correspondence here.) Strangely, it was sent to me and had no other contacts in cc. Perhaps he wanted to send it to “JE” but put my email there by mistake. When I commented on the meaning of this cryptic message, he responded with the following message, reproduced here in full:

I missed that one.

Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire science philanthropist showed up at this weekend’s event by helicopter (with his beautiful young assistant from Belarus). He’ll be in Cambridge in a couple of weeks asked me who he should meet. You are one of the people I suggested and I told him I would send some links.

He’s the guy who gave Harvard #30m to set up Martin Nowak. He’s been extremely generous in funding projects of many of our friends and clients. He also got into trouble and spent a year in jail in Florida.

If he contacts you it’s probably worth your time to meet him as he’s extremely bright and interesting.

Last time I visited his house (the largest private residence in NYC), I walked in to find him in a sweatsuit and a British guy in a suit with suspenders, getting foot massages from two young well-dressed Russian women. After grilling me for a while about cyber-security, the Brit, named Andy, was commenting on the Swedish authorities and the charges against Julian Assange.

“We think they’re liberal in Sweden, but its more like Northern England as opposed to Southern Europe,” he said. “In Monaco, Albert works 12 hours a day but at 9pm, when he goes out, he does whatever he wants, and nobody cares. But, if I do it, I’m in big trouble.” At that point I realized that the recipient of Irina’s foot massage was his Royal Highness, Prince Andrew, the Duke of York.

Indeed, a week later, on a slow news day, the cover of the NYpost had a full-page photo of Jeffrey and Andrew walking in Central Park under the headline: “The Prince and the Perv.” (That was the end of Andrew’s role at the UK trade ambassador.)

https://newrepublic.com/article/154826/jeffrey-epsteins-intellectual-enabler

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Are you this active talking shit to conservative posters grasping at any straw to defend sexual abusers in the Girls Do Porn thread?

Or are you just trying to grab a "gotcha" against a guy who likes good comedy and happens to be liberal?

Sexual abusers? Explain.

 

[The Merchant]

Jeffrey Epstein’s Intellectual Enabler

How did Epstein meet so many luminaries in the worlds of science and technology? It all might trace back to literary agent John Brockman.

If you are an accomplished science or technology writer, your books are probably handled by the most powerful literary agency in the field: the famous Brockman Inc., started by John Brockman and now run by Max Brockman, his son. As it happens, Max is also my agent—and has been since my first book was sold in 2009. As agencies go, I only have positive things to report: The Brockmans fight for their authors and get us very handsome advances. That’s what agents are for.

Lately, John has been in the news for other reasons, namely because of his troubling connections to Jeffrey Epstein, the so-called financier who reportedly hanged himself earlier this month while facing federal charges of sex-trafficking. Epstein participated in the Edge Foundation’s annual questions, and attended its “billionaires’ dinners.” Brockman may also be the reason why so many prominent academics—from Steven Pinker to Daniel Dennett—have found themselves answering awkward questions about their associations with Epstein; they are clients of Brockman. Marvin Minsky, the prominent MIT scientist who surfaced as one of Epstein’s island buddies? A client of Brockman’s. Joi Ito, the director of the elite research facility MIT Media Lab, who has recently acknowledgedextensive ties to Epstein? Also, a client of Brockman’s.

Knowing that Brockman likes to brag about all the famous people he has met and befriended—you can easily count the seconds until he name-checks “Marshall” (McLuhan) or “Andy” (Warhol) or “Gregory“ (Bateson) in a casual conversation—I decided to look over our correspondence over the past decade and see if he might have name-dropped Epstein somewhere. And, of course, he did. Browsing through our email correspondence, I stumbled upon a most peculiar email from September 12, 2013.


It was very laconic: “JE, FYI, JB”—followed by my short bio and some media clippings. (You can check the entire PDF of the correspondence here.) Strangely, it was sent to me and had no other contacts in cc. Perhaps he wanted to send it to “JE” but put my email there by mistake. When I commented on the meaning of this cryptic message, he responded with the following message, reproduced here in full:

I missed that one.

Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire science philanthropist showed up at this weekend’s event by helicopter (with his beautiful young assistant from Belarus). He’ll be in Cambridge in a couple of weeks asked me who he should meet. You are one of the people I suggested and I told him I would send some links.

He’s the guy who gave Harvard #30m to set up Martin Nowak. He’s been extremely generous in funding projects of many of our friends and clients. He also got into trouble and spent a year in jail in Florida.

If he contacts you it’s probably worth your time to meet him as he’s extremely bright and interesting.

Last time I visited his house (the largest private residence in NYC), I walked in to find him in a sweatsuit and a British guy in a suit with suspenders, getting foot massages from two young well-dressed Russian women. After grilling me for a while about cyber-security, the Brit, named Andy, was commenting on the Swedish authorities and the charges against Julian Assange.

“We think they’re liberal in Sweden, but its more like Northern England as opposed to Southern Europe,” he said. “In Monaco, Albert works 12 hours a day but at 9pm, when he goes out, he does whatever he wants, and nobody cares. But, if I do it, I’m in big trouble.” At that point I realized that the recipient of Irina’s foot massage was his Royal Highness, Prince Andrew, the Duke of York.

Indeed, a week later, on a slow news day, the cover of the NYpost had a full-page photo of Jeffrey and Andrew walking in Central Park under the headline: “The Prince and the Perv.” (That was the end of Andrew’s role at the UK trade ambassador.

https://newrepublic.com/article/154826/jeffrey-epsteins-intellectual-enabler

Wait Prince Andrew is meant to have a foot fetish, this shite is getting wild lol

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Yeah, I don’t really understand what’s happening here. Why NOT ask questions? I’m not saying it wasn’t a suicide, but the circumstances are at least unusual. Typically in cases like this, people demonstrate what I consider a healthy dose of institutional distrust. But not in this instance. And I’m not sure why.

Are you not sure why or do you not want to admit you know why?

The same people who Rage Against The MachineTM in every cop thread, are suddenly towing the line on this.

The only reason being they are scared that 'their side' is involved somehow.

 

[therealdope]

So no details about how Epstein amassed $570m+. Within a day of the recent indictment CNBC and the WSJ quickly came up with information that show there is no evidence that he was an active trader ... ever. He 'handled Wexler's portfolio' - whatever that means.

The secretive trust and will that Epstein set up two weeks ago should be easy to unseal and/or block because all the feds have to do is claim 'illegally gotten gains' and that shit is locked up. let's see if they do it.

 

[newerest]

Maybe because single factor analysis isn't fucking reasonable for such big problems?

Dude Jaqing off isnt having lots of questions that you want answers to . Jaqing is either assuming that because you can keep inventing a million questions that you can reject a really strong evidence based conclusion, or it is purposefully muddying of the waters by just asking a shitload of questions and hoping you can cause doubt.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Dude Jaqing off isnt having lots of questions that you want answers to . Jaqing is either assuming that because you can keep inventing a million questions that you can reject a really strong evidence based conclusion, or it is purposefully muddying of the waters by just asking a shitload of questions and hoping you can cause doubt.

ya, there is a lot of ignorance to the concept ITT, ironically the biggest offender is the guy who is accusing the people the most. He said 'literally asking questions is JAQ'ing' suggesting no questions are valid and all contribute to CT's.

there are certain questions that MUST be asked and answered in any high profile case. Doing so is necessary and not JAQing.

 

[JabToucher]

You might find this interesting.

 

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From an episode from the Simpson's....