Crime Jeffrey Epstein Dead

[LangfordBarrow]

This joke was made earlier.

When the thread is 84 pages long sometimes you have to skip a few.

 

[The Merchant]

You are very confused sir

Nah, I think he gets you. He's just saying that the guy who originally thought you were talking about Ted Bundy, and that he escaped twice in similar conditions, was also wrong about that.

Yeah that's correct. I went back to try and get the original quote but it was too far back and i gave up.

Someone stated Bundy had escaped twice though, but neither time was from the prison originally stated. Once it was from courthouse and once from a completely different jail.

Apologies for the confusion i should have kept going and got the original post but laziness drove me away.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Some of the articles of inmates who had been there said he couldn't kill himself because sheets were too thin, paper_like etc.

Some of the blankets look heavier than that, or even the clothes El Chapo are in.

But in all the pictures (ones I posted and more in the link) is that there is nothing to hang from.

My only thought is the picture with the top of the double bunk. And they said he was suppose to have had a cellmate, so prob had double bunk.

Eitherway, that would still be pretty hard to pull off. D'angelo from the Wire was staged to have hung himself from a door knob... so maybe.

Still think he was murdered tho, or given extra tools to assist in his suicide. Everything is too convenient, and would have had to have played out perfectly.

I was under the impression those descriptions were for a suicide watch cell. Apparently he was released back into a regular cell. That's the real head scratcher. As far as him getting away with it the fault might lie with a negligent guard. There should be enough cameras to determine if, despite the set protocol, if the guards were routinely negligent or if this lack of supervision was a one off case.

 

[nac386]

So, what’s the going conspiracy theory here? I see some people blaming Clinton and some people blaming Israel. Lol. Is there a perfect storm where the two overlap? The memes must be flowing like a river from moldy basements across the country right now.

So how does Bill Clinton control the prison? Does he call a guard on the telephone? Maybe the Warden is in on it?

Do you guys believe everybody is out to protect the Clintons, allowing them to get away with their, what..103rd murder? Bill couldn’t silence an intern, but he can infiltrate prisons to arrange murder?

Why are conspiracy theorists deflecting away from Trump while making equally far-fetched accusations against others almost as a statement of fact? Is this just meant to be a fun continuation of a favorite conspiracy theory (the mass murdering Clinton family)?

 

[bootsy]

Reminiscent of the death of James Forrestal.

 

[JonesBones]

So, what’s the going conspiracy theory here? I see some people blaming Clinton and some people blaming Israel. Lol. Is there a perfect storm where the two overlap? The memes must be flowing like a river from moldy basements across the country right now.

So how does Bill Clinton control the prison? Does he call a guard on the telephone? Maybe the Warden is in on it?

Do you guys believe everybody is out to protect the Clintons, allowing them to get away with their, what..103rd murder? Bill couldn’t silence an intern, but he can infiltrate prisons to arrange murder?

Why are conspiracy theorists deflecting away from Trump while making equally far-fetched accusations against others almost as a statement of fact? Is this just meant to be a fun continuation of a favorite conspiracy theory (the mass murdering Clinton family)?

Well this forum just leans right I guess. There are people blaming Trump for this but there is less of them. The Israel angle adds another layer of stupidity.

It is the idea that a powerful man can control all men, no matter how far. This is so not true. Napoleon couldn't control people from afar. Not even Putin can. Putin cannot control the will of every single commander and soldier on his command. Period.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Epstein was Mossad through and through, there's zero doubt about it. It's been already mentioned in the thread, his road to riches, lifestyle and the people he was surrounded with. You don't get to his level without being a part of high-level intelligence circles. Ehud Barak has publicly admitted trips to the island and his great friendship with Epstein, but refused any notion of participating in Epstein's parties. Barak was an Israeli commando, defense minister and Israel's PM. You don't get to be put in those positions without being high in Mossad's hierarchy. Epstein's "girlfriend" is a daughter of Robert Maxwell, Mossad's royalty. It will be interesting to see what happens to Ghislaine Maxwell assuming she's still alive.

The problem with this particular conspiracy is that half the foreign leaders (or hints at the country) named live in countries where age of consent is already 16. So not nearly the blackmail leverage that most are assuming.

 

[King of Fists]

Thread needs a new poll for the CTers, who killed him?

Bill Clinton
William Barr/Barr's dad
Deep state/illuminati

 

[HereticBD]

So, what’s the going conspiracy theory here? I see some people blaming Clinton and some people blaming Israel. Lol. Is there a perfect storm where the two overlap? The memes must be flowing like a river from moldy basements across the country right now.

So how does Bill Clinton control the prison? Does he call a guard on the telephone? Maybe the Warden is in on it?

Do you guys believe everybody is out to protect the Clintons, allowing them to get away with their, what..103rd murder? Bill couldn’t silence an intern, but he can infiltrate prisons to arrange murder?

Why are conspiracy theorists deflecting away from Trump while making equally far-fetched accusations against others almost as a statement of fact? Is this just meant to be a fun continuation of a favorite conspiracy theory (the mass murdering Clinton family)?

I'd actually argue that the majority of people haven't started pointing the finger at anyone in particular(there are exceptions of course). There are too many people that would want to silence him, so it's a little hard to pin on anyone in particular. I think the majority are just saying it smells fishy. Which it does.

I think you're also reading what you want, and are totally ignoring posts and theories related to Trump and Barr. There's been plenty of that going on too.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

FLOL.

Is there anything that demonstrated what a complete dupe Trump is and how completely stupid his devotees are than this tweet, real or not?

Trump literally believes KJU is his friend and they have this great relationship and he is incapable of seeing how completely he is being manipulated and even mocked as he just marches back in the door with a big smile the next day still assuming this guy is his pal, because he is too stupid to see it.

Not sure thst is a legit twitter handle - no check mark

 

[bad mojo]

The problem with this particular conspiracy is that half the foreign leaders (or hints at the country) named live in countries where age of consent is already 16. So not nearly the blackmail leverage that most are assuming.

This whole thing is so massive and interconnected with everything, it's impossible to get the entire picture. Secret services, royalty, political and cultural "elites", bankers, media...The thing is, this definitely has an occult background. And that's where the majority of folks simply give up. Having sex with a teenage girl is one thing, killing her and drinking her blood is something else. I've mentioned late Tracy Twyman earlier in the thread. Much of her work has been pulled off of Youtube, but there's still enough on the net to look at that aspect of this whole thing. I'd link it here, but don't want to fuel the whole "conspiracy nutjobs" narrative. But whoever killed Tracy didn't consider her a lunatic. If the truth ever comes out, the world will be shaking.

 

[SBJJ]

I'd actually argue that the majority of people haven't started pointing the finger at anyone in particular(there are exceptions of course). There are too many people that would want to silence him, so it's a little hard to pin on anyone in particular. I think the majority are just saying it smells fishy. Which it does.

I think you're also reading what you want, and are totally ignoring posts and theories related to Trump and Barr. There's been plenty of that going on too.

The partisans will filter out the other side. They only see 1 side as the CTers.

It is weird that by and large it does seem like leftists posters want this whole thing to just go away.

 

[Fawlty]

POLITICS
Why Conspiracy Theorists Will Never Believe the ‘Official’ Epstein Story


Trust in gatekeepers—from media to government—has eroded to the point of making an “official account” almost obsolete.


The reaction from the online fever swamps was predictable enough. Jeffrey Epstein, the well-connected financier accused of underage sex trafficking, was found dead in his Manhattan jail cell early this morning, just one day after unsealed court documents surfaced new allegations against him and his high-powered inner circle.

The reported cause of death was suicide—but the conspiracy-mongers were already springing into action.

Within hours, #EpsteinMurder was trending on Twitter, as was #TrumpBodyCount (where liberals speculated that the president had offed his former friend), and #ClintonCrimeFamily (where conservatives accused Bill and Hillary Clinton of orchestrating a murderous cover-up). But the speculation was not limited to the fringes—the president himself retweeted a video suggesting Epstein was now dead because he had information on the Clintons.

As the day went on, prominent commentators, journalists, and political figures used their platforms to broadcast conspiracy theories, implicate their ideological enemies, or simply engage in the Twitterwide guessing game about what really happened—all of them working with virtually no concrete information.

The MSNBC host Joe Scarborough tweeted, “A guy who had information that would have destroyed rich and powerful men’s lives ends up dead in his jail cell. How predictably...Russian.” His colleague Joy Ann Reid noted on air that the federal prison where Epstein had died was operated by the Department of Justice. “Let’s just be blunt,” she said. “William Barr’s justice department is not one that you can readily, simply rely upon, and feel confident in. So what do we make of all this now?”

Clara Jeffery, the editor in chief of Mother Jones, called the fact that Epstein reportedly wasn’t on suicide watch at the time of his death inside the Metropolitan Correctional Center “sketchy as shit.” And former Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri tweeted, “Something stinks to high heaven. How does someone on suicide watch hang himself with no intervention? Impossible. Unless.....”

Some saw Epstein’s death as cause for a broad indictment of American elites. Sohrab Ahmari, the conservative op-ed editor for the New York Post, touted the wisdom of a bar owner he knows who’d repeatedly predicted that “our ‘Eyes Wide Shut’-style ruling class” would “never let Epstein live.”

Others, like the Fox Business host Lou Dobbs, took a more sharply partisan approach. “Epstein should have been at least on Arkanside Watch,” he tweeted, deploying a portmanteau of suicide and Arkansas that was being used by Twitter conservatives to accuse the Clintons of foul play.

Amid all the fevered speculation, Mike Cernovich—a right-wing social-media personality and proponent of the so-called Pizzagate conspiracy theory—live-streamed his reaction to the Epstein-take cycle. Barely able to contain his glee, Cernovich seemed to revel in how some mainstream journalists were edging closer to his approach.

“Right now, in real time, mainstream media—they’re going to have to adjust their operating software; they’re going to have to adjust their mental model of the world,” he said. “It doesn’t matter how normie mainstream you are. It doesn’t matter how credible you think you are.” The official story of Epstein’s suicide, he declared, “just does not make sense.”

It would be easy to treat this frenzied reaction to Epstein’s death as a sad case study in how conspiratorial thinking has bled into mainstream discourse. But finger-wagging feels inadequate at this moment.

As I’ve written before, every grotesque beat of Epstein’s story—including, now, his untimely death—illustrates how America’s culture of elite impunity, failure, and corruption has allowed conspiracy theorists to thrive.

For some, the initial account of Epstein’s death did leave serious questions unanswered; suspicions of foul play—or at least mind-boggling incompetence—seemed natural. Indeed, by this afternoon, the attorney general, facing bipartisan pressure from lawmakers, announced that both the FBI and the inspector general would be investigating the death. No matter what facts emerge in the coming weeks or months, some observers will forever remain unconvinced.

Last month, after I wrote about the Epstein case, a certain conspiracy-obsessed segment of the internet became convinced that I was somehow trying to “gaslight” them—or perhaps even that I was a “puppet” serving Epstein and his co-conspirators. I received a wave of wrathful messages from strangers on Twitter and Facebook calling me a “-apologist” and worse.

I considered trying to reason with them, to explain that they were misreading what I’d written. But I suspected engaging would be futile. Their trust in appointed gatekeepers and other people in power—from the media to government officials to the worlds of Hollywood and high finance—has been too fully eroded. Their paranoia may have been disheartening to me, but at this moment in American life, it seemed almost inevitable.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/595906/

Notice that this take resembles in no way whatsoever the completely unhinged bullshit itt, yet still manages to be a sharp critique of the media.

 

[Fawlty]

First of all. Trump is the fringe. He is a conspiracy crank just like you. Secondly, Joe Scarborough was mocking conspiracy theories and joking. He was mocking idiots like you and Trump. lol

You're with the conspiritard in chief. Congrats.

I took Scarborough's comment to be very clever & cheeky. But I can see how it could also just be derpy. Hard to tell sometimes.

 

[Fawlty]

LOL! But KJU is Trump's friend and even smiles when he sees him!

Trump is so petty and stupid he doesn't even realize when he's being mocked out in the open.

Still true but I'm pretty sure that's a parody account.

 

[DarkneT]

Uhm
Fucking wood

 

[andnowweknow]

The partisans will filter out the other side. They only see 1 side as the CTers.

It is weird that by and large it does seem like leftists posters want this whole thing to just go away.

This looks far worse for the current administration than anyone else. It's a DOJ prison and it's an embarrassment if the official line is gonna be that he simply committed suicide.

A lot of the left virtue signals militant rationality...everything has a simple reductive answer. It's the pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction of "the Clinton's had him killed".

The truth is this is a very suspicious event. At the very least there is extremely laughable incompetence at hand, though the fact he wasn't on suicide watch is beyond incompetence.

 

[National Acrobat]

The problem with this particular conspiracy is that half the foreign leaders (or hints at the country) named live in countries where age of consent is already 16. So not nearly the blackmail leverage that most are assuming.

16 was not the youngest. He copped to a 16 year old in the 2007 sweetheart deal as opposed to the 14 year old so that he wouldn't have to register as a sex offender in many states. But according to the deposition of a pilot in a civil case he had three 12 year old french chicks flown out for his birthday and in the unsealed court documents released the day before he died there were photos of a prepubescent chick bent over showing her ass.

Sexual espionage has been used by organized crime and intelligence agencies since the 30's. If you think banging trafficked (i.e. taken against their will) 16 year olds doesn't provide sufficient blackmail leverage you should look into Eliot Spitzer (who incidentally was known for being relatively hard on Wall Street as Attorney General of New York) who had his career destroyed for fucking a 22 year old prostitute .

 

[JonesBones]

I took Scarborough's comment to be very clever & cheeky. But I can see how it could also just be derpy. Hard to tell sometimes.

Now people are talking about his dead intern again. lol. It has some parallels to this case. His staffer supposedly died by passing out on a desk and hitting her head. lol. That is what conspiracy theorists are saying anyway. I don't know the case but it is similar to "how could somebody die from that?"

 

[SBJJ]

This looks far worse for the current administration than anyone else. It's a DOJ prison and it's an embarrassment if the official line is gonna be that he simply committed suicide.

A lot of the left virtue signals militant rationality...everything has a simple reductive answer. It's the pendulum swing in the complete opposite direction of "the Clinton's had him killed".

The truth is this is a very suspicious event. At the very least there is extremely laughable incompetence at hand, though the fact he wasn't on suicide watch is beyond incompetence.

Except everything coming out showing who was riding into that island seems to show the VAST majority to have something in common