Crime Jeffrey Epstein Dead

[Fawlty]

Can you point out where i make this argument "you say that Barr owes Epstein some loyalty or something because the Epstein family helped him"

I want to debate in good faith.

You asked what will folk say when Barr clears everything, and i said they will say his dad knew him and hired him to teach at his school.

what is a C-Theoretical murder?

So i said that His father employed him to teach at a prestigious school of the rich without any qualifications.

That's the logical implication. What else would it suggest?

You point out this conflict of interest. So, what does it mean here? Why do you bring up their relationship?

Given their relationship, what would that suggest? If anything, that Barr owes Epstein. Obviously. But I don't buy that there actually is a conflict of interest here. What conflict? And how did you determine that Epstein was unqualified to teach math? He was a young hedge fund wiz. It doesn't sound suspicious to me.

C-Theoretical is a smart ass way of saying "Conspiracy Theory (Theoretical)"

 

[all caps]

That's what you call powerful.

When everyone is expecting a guy to get killed, and you kill him off anyway. Lie, and say it's a suicide even though everyone knows you're lying, and you know they know your lying and can't do shit about it.

Walking into a room and dropping your dick right on the table. Next level shit.

 

[The Merchant]

Dalton is one of New York City’s most storied and prestigious private schools, known for its sky-high cost and enrollment of the sons and daughters of New York’s richest and most influential families.

This is the school university drop-out got hired to teach at by Barr's father.

There must be some relationship for the father to hire a non-qualified teacher to teach at the US equivalent of Eton.

 

[Lubaolong]

Now the question will be if the decision to not have him on suicide watch can be successfully defended in court. Correctional facilities employ mostly clinicians from the bottom of the barrel. It is not uncommon to see doctors practicing in jails/prisons who have convictions or revoked licenses in other states. The standard of care is so low (and low in psych in general) that it will probably be hard to hold anyone accountable for this.

 

[Fawlty]

Now the question will be if the decision to not have him on suicide watch can be successfully defended in court.

Imagine the government (meaning you and me, the taxpayers) having to pay a wrongful death settlement to the Epstein estate. JFC.

 

[The Merchant]

That's the logical implication. What else would it suggest?

You point out this conflict of interest. So, what does it mean here? Why do you bring up their relationship?

Given their relationship, what would that suggest? If anything, that Barr owes Epstein. Obviously. But I don't buy that there actually is a conflict of interest here. What conflict? And how did you determine that Epstein was unqualified to teach math? He was a young hedge fund wiz. It doesn't sound suspicious to me.

C-Theoretical is a smart ass way of saying "Conspiracy Theory (Theoretical)"

ah right so you have a bias towards CT, noted.

He became a hedgefund wiz after he taught at school, please be aware of the chronology of the thing you're going to talk about please.

I looked at his academic record of taking "a couple of classes" and then how he dropped out before even completing his degrees. He doesn't have a bachelors degree let alone a post grad in teaching i accessed this from his biography on the net.

 

[IDL]

Fake death the dude is back on another Lolita Island with Bill

Livin lolita loca?

 

[Bamboozled]

dont look at the Clintons..
Look at the power above them . I think we all know what that is ..

ah yes, the old "No you!" excuse.

 

[SurferH2O]

Epstein is currently going through facial reconstructive surgery. They gave him a heavy drug that makes the body resemble death and he staged his scene as he went out. They will use some John Doe body they have prepared and cremate it. Epstein will live his days in some foreign land raping little girls. This was all set up by the Jews, because they are the ultimate covert operators and he's a Jew.

There... that is the ultimate conspiracy theory. (Not that I believe it, but why not since everything is on the table.)

I just hope all the girls/women he and his ilk abused sleep better. What a scumbag.

 

[The Merchant]

I was just fact-checking the Epstein-Barr stuff, and it seems without access to Dalton's personnel record it cannot be ascertained whether Barr actually hired him or someone else did. As barr was in the process of leaving the school.

It was noted that Epstein never had a teaching license , although one isn't needed to teach at the private schools.

 

[Fawlty]

ah right so you have a bias towards CT, noted.

He became a hedgefund wiz after he taught at school, please be aware of the chronology of the thing you're going to talk about please.

I looked at his academic record of taking "a couple of classes" and then how he dropped out before even completing his degrees. He doesn't have a bachelors degree let alone a post grad in teaching i accessed this from his biography on the net.

I have a bias against bad reasoning, which is to say I'm against the bias that drives conspiracy-thinking.

Why the conflict of interest? How? Explain to me exactly how AG Barr's ordering of an investigation into Epstein's death in federal custody is a conflict. It's not enough that Barr's dad gave Epstein a job he may not have deserved many decades ago. You haven't done that, you haven't given a reason that it's actually a conflict of interest.

And the chronology point is silly. He didn't learn how to teach math in Hedge Fund University. It's like your ink-clouding here. Get to the fuckin' point lol.

ed: and thanks for the additional info on the Dalton thing in your last post.

 

[all caps]

Epstein is currently going through facial reconstructive surgery. They gave him a heavy drug that makes the body resemble death and he staged his scene as he went out. They will use some John Doe body they have prepared and cremate it. Epstein will live his days in some foreign land raping little girls. This was all set up by the Jews, because they are the ultimate covert operators and he's a Jew.

There... that is the ultimate conspiracy theory. (Not that I believe it, but why not since everything is on the table.)

I just hope all the girls/women he and his ilk abused sleep better. What a scumbag.

 

[Fawlty]

When the name-change cooldown is up on this handle, would you be willing to change your name to Stingray Hairyballnob? It has a nice ring to it.

 

[The Merchant]

I have a bias against bad reasoning, which is to say I'm against the bias that drives conspiracy-thinking.

Why the conflict of interest? How? Explain to me exactly how AG Barr's ordering of an investigation into Epstein's death in federal custody is a conflict. It's not enough that Barr's dad gave Epstein a job he may not have deserved many decades ago. You haven't done that, you haven't given a reason that it's actually a conflict of interest.

And the chronology point is silly. He didn't learn how to teach math in Hedge Fund University. It's like your ink-clouding here. Get to the fuckin' point lol.

Let's take the last place first you were using his wizkid status as a reason why he would be hired for the teaching job, so let's nip this in the bud. It is absolutely relevant he met Greenspan as a teacher there and then got his job at Bearns. It's only silly cause it showed you don't know the order things happened in Epstein life.

Right IF Epstein was a friend of his dad then that would be a conflict of interest. We don't know the relationship. We know he was hired without a teaching license or a degree to teach courses at a prestigious school , which implies some sort of relationship.

You keep forgetting i adopted a position to show you what folk would say when Barr cleared him. They will point to this relationship. If they were friends or acquainted in some way then where i come from it's a conflict of interest. For instance where i live if you know the accused you can't be in a jury judging them. Maybe it's different in the US.

 

[tonni]

Also look at "Dutroux affair" in Belgium. The folk had to almost riot for anything to be done in that, they took to the streets in their tens of thousands demanding justice.

Heads were gonna roll.

 

[bad mojo]

Lol, David Icke was called the craziest man on the planet, but everything he was saying 25 years ago is coming true.

"Nothing to see here, folks! All world leaders worship statues of Moloch. Is normal."

Absolutely. We're just humans, and all have egos. It is really hard to admit that the fool you've been laughing at was actually right the entire time. What is even weirder, is that children sacrifices were going on throughout centuries of mankind, but we're told that it is somehow crazy to think that some sick people would do it today.

 

[wufabufa]

Now the question will be if the decision to not have him on suicide watch can be successfully defended in court. Correctional facilities employ mostly clinicians from the bottom of the barrel. It is not uncommon to see doctors practicing in jails/prisons who have convictions or revoked licenses in other states. The standard of care is so low (and low in psych in general) that it will probably be hard to hold anyone accountable for this.

This is true.

I know a woman who is a clinical psychologist and had to do an 18 month clinical rotation a juvenile detention center. All of their psych staff were graduates of online diploma mills or universities with programs that were not well respected. Her clinical instructor/supervisor of the psych staff at the jail "graduated" from an online program that lost their accreditation and no longer exists.

 

[andnowweknow]

ah yes, the old "No you!" excuse.

You're the puppet

 

[fedoriswar37]

Interesting how some want to characterise the people discussing the information as opposed to the information itself.

A logical fallacy in debate.

Yeah it falls along the same lines as people caring more about who exposes the information ( for example Wikileaks) then the information exposed (actual crimes) .

 

[hillelslovak87]

Lol, David Icke was called the craziest man on the planet, but everything he was saying 25 years ago is coming true.

"Nothing to see here, folks! All world leaders worship statues of Moloch. Is normal."