Crime Jeffrey Epstein Dead

[Rockapotomuss]

I'm moving from the suicide camp to the assisted suicide / cover up camp.

Just watched the 60 minutes special on this and here is why. There were two suicide/death attempts. The first one, Jeffrey claimed was an attack by his cellmate. His cellmate says it was a suicide attempt. The footage from that day, and the backup footage, erased by mistake. Then there was the actual death. The footage from inside the cell block didn't work, and the footage from outside the cell would not show what was going on in the cell, and is therefore not conclusive. Given we have two incidents that were supposed to have video footage, and neither of them have any useful footage leads me to conclude that there is likely a cover up.

 

[TheComebackKid]

He has been re-tweeting stuff, mostly stuff suggesting that the Clintons did it, but he hasn't tweeted about it himself.

This is what he said when asked about it:

"I have no idea. I know he was on his plane 27 times, and he said he was on the plane four times. But when they checked the plane logs, Bill Clinton, who was a very good friend of Epstein, he was on the plane about 27 or 28 times, so why did he say four times? And then the question you have to ask is 'Did Bill Clinton go to the island?' because Epstein had an island that was not a good place as I understand it, and I was never there. So you have to ask, 'Did Bill Clinton go to the island?' If you find that out, you're going to know a lot."

 

[HOV]

Anybody with half a brain can see that this is a job. If ever there was an execution by higher powers, because of some crooked shit going on behind the scenes...this is it lol

Only fantasy island square bears who think the government are honest squeaky clean individuals will believe otherwise.

But even though shit is so plain to see...we still can't do shit about it

We can only know

 

[Merlotte's]

He has been re-tweeting stuff, mostly stuff suggesting that the Clintons did it, but he hasn't tweeted about it himself.

This is what he said when asked about it:

"I have no idea. I know he was on his plane 27 times, and he said he was on the plane four times. But when they checked the plane logs, Bill Clinton, who was a very good friend of Epstein, he was on the plane about 27 or 28 times, so why did he say four times? And then the question you have to ask is 'Did Bill Clinton go to the island?' because Epstein had an island that was not a good place as I understand it, and I was never there. So you have to ask, 'Did Bill Clinton go to the island?' If you find that out, you're going to know a lot."

Thanks. I know a lot is happening but usually Donald wouldn’t shut up if he had anything concrete that would link Epstein’s death to Bill. Seems like the perfect set up to place Epstein in a location Trump could monitor with men of his choosing to catch a violator red handed. Instead we get this sloppy mess with no answers at all.

 

[thehighking]

Anybody with half a brain can see that this is a job. If ever there was an execution by higher powers, because of some crooked shit going on behind the scenes...this is it lol

Only fantasy island square bears who think the government are honest squeaky clean individuals will believe otherwise.

But even though shit is so plain to see...we still can't do shit about it

We can only know

It's the way propaganda has moulded people. It's wrong in our society to believe in conspiracies and those who do are ridiculed, even when there is so much suspicous anomalies in this case people are still trained to believe a conspiracy can't be real

 

[Last Samurai]

I’m inclined to believe they allowed a suicidal man to commit suicide more than committing murder directly. It’s the cleanest way to a mutual ending. Why kill him when you can just enable him to kill himself?

Initially that may be the case.

But when he failed to get the job done they
decided to take matters into their own hands

That would be my guess.

 

[Cajun]

Used to watch the HBO specials with Michael Baden the forensic pathologist. He has already indicated the strangeness of certain bones broken in the neck that are very rare in suicides. May never be solved but definitely seems foul.

 

[senri]

I’m inclined to believe they allowed a suicidal man to commit suicide more than committing murder directly. It’s the cleanest way to a mutual ending. Why kill him when you can just enable him to kill himself?

This I can agree with. Disable all surveillance cameras and set up alibis for the workers to take a "break". Enter the cell and have a nice chat with him on what the implications of his waking existence will have on his loved ones. Show recordings of your "colleagues" wining and dining with his family and friends lavishing them with gifts and opportunities to gain their admiration and trust... show clips of bonding between those that matter to him and escalate the sentiment, slowly progress the recordings towards the youthful purity of innocence as you augment the theme of dread and despair on the children of tomorrow. Whisper nice and softly close to his ears on what will become of them unless he does the right thing. Show your work of course on what the consequences will be if he is not beholden towards the adjudicator of his fate.

With enough of a push you can get someone to simply do anything.......

 

[DeJulez]

in before dumbfu*ks pollute this thread by saying, "I still believe the official story."

LOL.

I still believe the official story

 

[bobgeese]

Ya know, I try really hard not to indulge conspiracies, but, this is just all too much.

 

[orangecuse]

One of the few conspiracy theories I believed from the very beginning.

Hmm, if you believe the govt/law enforcement/news are lying about the death of a very powerful successful phile connected to the CIA and other powerful people in politics & Hollywood doesn't that open a can of worms and connect to other wider-ranging conspiracy theories that you probably always mocked and/or never considered?

LOL how can one just think 'this one time I believe this Epstein didn't kill himself conspiracy theory'? Believing that logically connects in some way to the other "scary out there" stuff, right? Wouldn't your mind have to reconsider or consider some things you never have before? So why do you believe this one conspiracy theory? Why do you think he was killed and everyone is lying about it? I guess you have some answer that doesn't connect to other conspiracy theories. What is it?

 

[Damien Karras]

I'm not at all the conspiracy type but this stinks the high hell

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

I still believe the official story

Lol, stfu

 

[panamaican]

Hmm, if you believe the govt/law enforcement/news are lying about the death of a very powerful successful phile connected to the CIA and other powerful people in politics & Hollywood doesn't that open a can of worms and connect to other wider-ranging conspiracy theories that you probably always mocked and/or never considered?

LOL how can one just think 'this one time I believe this Epstein didn't kill himself conspiracy theory'? Believing that logically connects in some way to the other "scary out there" stuff, right? Wouldn't your mind have to reconsider or consider some things you never have before? So why do you believe this one conspiracy theory? Why do you think he was killed and everyone is lying about it? I guess you have some answer that doesn't connect to other conspiracy theories. What is it?

No, it doesn't logically connect to other "scary out there" stuff. That's a huge logically unsound argument. Because I believe this one thing related to one person, I must perforce believe some other thing related to some other person? That is why most conspiracy theories are unsound, the illogical extension of one thing into completely unrelated things.

That I don't believe Epstein killed himself provides no justification for believing that there's a child porn ring under a specific DC pizza parlour basement or that aliens are walking among us with the tacit permission of our government or whatever other CT you want to throw out. Some CTs make sense, the vast, vast majority of them don't. But giving them credibility because something else has credibility is just stupid. Some guy finds out his co-workers wife is cheating, therefore it lends credibility to the theory that his own wife is cheating. Some guy's neighbor is secretly selling drugs, therefore it lends credibility to the theory a completely unrelated person in a completely different state is also selling drugs from his/her apartment. No reasonable person should think that way. Each of those theories should stand or fall on their own merits and most of them fall.

 

[Skarr]

there is also the possibility that he didnt die in that cell....

 

[Sketch]

Nah I don’t know. Fawlty who is one of the smartest and most likeable posters here told me this is a CT from the very start.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

Can someone throw me the name of the exact jail he was in?

 

[rambosabeast]

Epstein's camera footage didn't kill itself.

 

[tonni]

Apparently the big cop who was Epstein's cell-mate, wished for the footage to be shown, so that his efforts to save Epstein would grant him leniency in his criminal case.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he actually tried to kill himself, he was a phile coward after all, but it could be that the footage would've shown signs of negligence or even assistance on the part of the prison guards, which is why it was "lost".

Don't necessarily need a huge conspiracy behind a prison institution trying to protect its own ass from culpability in such a public case. These institutions are used to "cleaning up after their own messes", which is why you never hear about any of the assaults, rapes and even murder that occur on their watch. The last thing they want, is government or media over-sight into their activities.

I agree with this take.

 

[tonni]

No, it doesn't logically connect to other "scary out there" stuff. That's a huge logically unsound argument. Because I believe this one thing related to one person, I must perforce believe some other thing related to some other person? That is why most conspiracy theories are unsound, the illogical extension of one thing into completely unrelated things.

That I don't believe Epstein killed himself provides no justification for believing that there's a child porn ring under a specific DC pizza parlour basement or that aliens are walking among us with the tacit permission of our government or whatever other CT you want to throw out. Some CTs make sense, the vast, vast majority of them don't. But giving them credibility because something else has credibility is just stupid. Some guy finds out his co-workers wife is cheating, therefore it lends credibility to the theory that his own wife is cheating. Some guy's neighbor is secretly selling drugs, therefore it lends credibility to the theory a completely unrelated person in a completely different state is also selling drugs from his/her apartment. No reasonable person should think that way. Each of those theories should stand or fall on their own merits and most of them fall.

I’ve had the same dicussion as you are having here. It’s very frustrating.