Israel kills Iranian General, high ranking Hezbollah in Syria

[MicroBrew]

prob because Israel couldnt sustain a prolonged attack against Iran so the point is moot to begin with. Only with America's help would that be remotely possible for them.


Also nice to act like Iran isnt all over the Middle East getting involved or starting conflicts. Its just Israel huh. Cool story, bro. Iran is doing a better job of indirectly attacking Israel than vice versa. A much better job.

When was the last time Iran took out an Israeli commander/military official? Hezbollah isn't Iranian even though they receive support from Iran. Hezbollah is a Lebanese Shia movement.

 

[MicroBrew]

yes them fanning the flames of hatred between Sunni's and Shiites would surely bring peace and stability to the region like never seen before!!


right after killing all the Sunni's of course.

It is Sunnis who are on rampage , with Saudi's version of Islam pushing extreme hatred and intolerance of non Muslims. Shia aren't doing any of that crap. Infact in Syria, they are fighting Sunnis who are killing Christians.

 

[LionExMachina]

yes them fanning the flames of hatred between Sunni's and Shiites would surely bring peace and stability to the region like never seen before!!


right after killing all the Sunni's of course.

I always had the impression that Shias were more amenable to reason than the Sunni states that are quietly favored by the israel.

 

[Fronk]

Hezbollah does carries terrorists attacks, but they dont really make it public, since the message is aimed at Israeli intelligence, not the general public.

how is it a terrorist attack then?

 

[Zankou]

Pretty much the definition of a terrorist attack is that your primary intended goal is to terrify the populace.

If they don't even know about it, it's not terrorism.

 

[berimBOWLoh]

It is Sunnis who are on rampage , with Saudi's version of Islam pushing extreme hatred and intolerance of non Muslims. Shia aren't doing any of that crap. Infact in Syria, they are fighting Sunnis who are killing Christians.

Iran has their fingerprints on tons of Shiite/Sunni violence. Esp in Iraq. All you guys acting like Iran isnt already heavily involved in funding terrorism or movements all across the region have your heads in the sand.

 

[Zankou]

"Terrorism or movements" is a pretty damn generic term.

Shiite military power and militants are one thing, but you rarely see Shiites blowing up schools, suicide bombing is virtually unknown from Shiites, even the idea of Int'l Shiite terrorism is silly, there's essentially no blasting of mosques/shrines, buses not getting destroyed, pagans not being killed, etc. All the classic apparatus of Middle Eastern terrorism is essentially straight Sunni.

Shiites do plenty of dickish things, but terrorism in the classic sense is pretty much a Sunni specialty. The closest the Shiites get to it is probably the Hezbollah rocket barrages on Israel. Even there, they tend to be something Hezbollah did in response to Israeli invasion.

 

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Retaliates over 1 general ?

wars have been started over much less.

 

[Banchan]

Pre-emptive strike is a euphemism for we attacked first. Israel has been trying to use this excuse against Iran for awhile now but hasn't been able to launch a direct attack yet. The US also used this euphemism when it suits.

Why would Hezbollah , who has its hands full with battling Sunnis in Syria, open up a front against Israel and invite Israeli retaliation. It is a BS excuse by Israel to justify their attack.

Why was this convey carrying a top Iranian general and Jihad Moughniyeh so close to Israel's border in the Golan Heights?

Do you think their gps malfunctioned and they went in the opposite direction of ISIS ?

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Assad is the middle man between Iran and Hezbollah. They continuously funnel arms and money to Hezbollah, and provide tons of training.

Hezbollah tends to fire rockets into Israel whenever they are bored.

I'm with the general consensus though, this was shitty on Israel's part. It looks like an elaborate staged event because things aren't going well in the polls for Bibi... and whenever you use your military might to kill your enemy just for political gain, well, you're an evil bastard.

 

[AlucardNatasrd]

Israel wants the bloodletting to continue for as long as possible, for the Sunnis and Shia to slaughter each other so both are weak. The fact that a lot of innocent people and minorities get cleansed is of no concern for Israel.

I disagree here. They only want to punish the Shi'a because the Israelis seem to think they're the only ones who are worth hating outright.

You'll note how the Sunni powers are beginning to get very cozy with Israel, such as on the recent Palestinian conflict which saw many Sunni powers condemn the Palestinians.

Israel is in bed with Sunni powers and really only cares about undermining Shi'a ones.

Now, if it was merely stirring the shit pot, that'd be one thing. But no: They just attack, and just weaken, the Shi"a forces to hurt Iran and encourage US support.

 

[AlucardNatasrd]

calling obama an anti semite is a joke! not putting america's interests before israel makes you an anti semite. amazing.

Nicky, don't you know that Israel is the 51st state, the most American of all states, and if you disagree with the US of Israel, you are a traitor?

 

[Rod1]

how is it a terrorist attack then?

They target non-combatants

 

[Rod1]

"Terrorism or movements" is a pretty damn generic term.

Shiite military power and militants are one thing, but you rarely see Shiites blowing up schools, suicide bombing is virtually unknown from Shiites, even the idea of Int'l Shiite terrorism is silly, there's essentially no blasting of mosques/shrines, buses not getting destroyed, pagans not being killed, etc. All the classic apparatus of Middle Eastern terrorism is essentially straight Sunni.

Shiites do plenty of dickish things, but terrorism in the classic sense is pretty much a Sunni specialty. The closest the Shiites get to it is probably the Hezbollah rocket barrages on Israel. Even there, they tend to be something Hezbollah did in response to Israeli invasion.

In the sense of "Kill the infidels and make Allah proud" yes, its a sunni thing.

In the sense of you attacked us with a proxy group or covert military action and claim innocence, then we are going to bomb a bus full of jews/israelis someplace and claim innocence too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Burgas_bus_bombing

Hezbollah is indeed a terrorist group, but so is the Mossad by the same measure.

Shias due their historical persecution, have been far better tempered for asymetric warfare and the game of proxies. Seems pretty shitty from both sides, but then again Shia countries tend to be less of a shithole when they are not being invaded/blockaded.

Lebanon has quite the standard of living considering its history and Iran would be better than Turkey if it wasnt for the crippling sanctions.

 

[Armbars]

Syria is starting to remind me of a FFA FPS game.

Who's the next player to get involved, Japan?

 

[Rod1]

Syria is starting to remind me of a FFA FPS game.

Who's the next player to get involved, Japan?

 

[Banchan]

Shiites do plenty of dickish things, but terrorism in the classic sense is pretty much a Sunni specialty. The closest the Shiites get to it is probably the Hezbollah rocket barrages on Israel. Even there, they tend to be something Hezbollah did in response to Israeli invasion.

"There are significant and little appreciated differences in the trajectory of Sunni extremist terrorism and that of Shi