International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[SurferH2O]

America won't send troops. It would be B2's, cruise missiles, and new shit where we won't know exactly what happened. They'll never be able to stop it.

... and the USS Liberty was complete Israeli fuckery. I want to know what price they had to pay for that bullshit.

 

[Jacket time]

 

[Jacket time]

And all of that for what ? So much pointless death and destruction

May the young secularist generations of both Israel and Iran rise up and put an end to this madness. This is the future and the best possible outcome for both countries. Enough with the zionists or the extremist mullahs of Iran or all the chosen ones or the caliphate garbage. Let rationality , common sense and real freedom prevail. Both in body and mind.

sounds good on paper

 

[Tatra]

What is this supposed to be showing?

Looks more like WTC after the collapse. I can't make out the language being spoken in the distance but due to the sheer amount of damage I'd say it's probably from Iran.

 

[Crazy Source]

Why can't Israel come to the table and talk? Because they are starving and bombing Palestinians. This attack was unwarranted and Bibi saw Trump is a weak ass bitch and would do anything he told him to do.

Trump is weak. His street cred is nil.

 

[San Marino]

So, Israel thinks that after their two-week operation is over and most of the Iranian nuclear facilities destroyed, everything will go back to normal. Iran will stop its attacks on Israel and everything will be 'rainbows and unicorns.' The idea that Iran will continue to attack Israel for another 3 months is inconceivable to Israel. Let us see who runs out of missiles first. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iraq, North Korea, and Russia will join on the side of Iran and supply it with weapons. Like the US and Europe supplying Ukraine. Russia and North Korea will step up their rhetoric towards the US, and then what? Just like in Ukraine. Will the US be willing to face a nuclear war with Russia over Israel? I don't think so. Russia has historically sided with Arabs during conflicts with Israel.

 

[Tatra]

They're using the more primitive rockets as a smokescreen for the superior rockets. Nice strat.

 

[The XL]

And all of that for what ? So much pointless death and destruction

May the young secularist generations of both Israel and Iran rise up and put an end to this madness. This is the future and the best possible outcome for both countries. Enough with the zionists or the extremist mullahs of Iran or all the chosen ones or the caliphate garbage. Let rationality , common sense and real freedom prevail. Both in body and mind.

This is what it comes down to. The people across the world, and when it comes to this conflict in particular, in Iran and Israel, need to stop letting their elites do as they please.

 

[Snubnoze707]

My arguments are based in the 1000s of people who have studied this bud. Again, there is a full novel that debunks your POV. It is not my POV that is fringe here; the antisemites love to go on about this, but not much of anyone else. It's kind of irrelevant to those of us without an agenda; it was a long time ago. I don't know if a Jewish dude stole your girlfriend or what, but even other posters are telling me you are obsessed.

Okay, so of those 1000's of people 100% were on your side, or was their varying opinions?

If it's a "debatable" topic, as you seem to have presented, then why am I suddenly a "Conspiracy Theorist" when I side with people that were closely aligned with this topic?

I didn't bring this topic up, I just challenged you on your initial assertion that their was a clear unquestionable consensus on this due to investigations that are clearly up to debate given directives to lie about them.

As far as posters telling you I'm "obsessed" with Israel, or "antisemitic," it's ones that I have been debating with for the better part of the last year on the topic of the Gaza Genocide, ones that go out of their way to excuse every War Crime Israel is responsible for, so you aren't exactly getting a unbiased opinion there.

For the record, I'm not "antisemitic" I have nothing against Jews whatsoever and many of my friends that I regularly do stuff with are Jewish, and the majority of my sources on this topic are Jewish. I am however Anti-Zionist (if I'm allowed to say that on here) and I won't hide that fact.

 

[The XL]

sounds good on paper

The problem is the average person in every country in the world are relatively low IQ and highly susceptible to propaganda. Human intelligence in general is overstated.

 

[San Marino]

OK I give in- you've found proof in this text!

Not, ROFL. Keep trying.

While you are at it, I recommend this very good book. Your flimsy bit of text is measly compared to this book:

The Liberty Incident (2002) & The Liberty Incident Revealed (2013)
Author: A. Jay Cristol — former U.S. Navy Reserve aviator, attorney, and judge

Key Evidence:​

• Meticulously reviews over 450 interviews, official Commission and NSA docs, U.S. and Israeli military records, and intercepted tapes released via FOIA
• An exhaustive forensic judge-like approach: reconstructs pilot and naval conversations, flag visibility, communications breakdown, and rapid fog‑of‑war circumstances .

Conclusions:​

• Affirms the official findings: Israeli forces misidentified Liberty as an Egyptian warship.
• Finds no credible evidence that the attack was deliberate.
• Judiciously explains alternative theories—presenting them, then demonstrating how they fail to withstand legal-style scrutiny
• In the 2013 edition, Cristol incorporates NSA audio tapes and more Israeli documentation, reinforcing that every new declassified source supports the error explanation

Scholarly Endorsements​

• Military Review praised Cristol’s use of evidence: “logical in its flow… hard to reject.”
• International Journal of Maritime History called it "the definitive account…unlikely to be surpassed." "authoritative ."

Good reading material. Also, try these:

• Bamford, James (2001). Body of Secrets. Doubleday.
• Ennes, James M. Jr (1987). Assault on the Liberty: The True Story of the Israeli Attack on an American Intelligence Ship.
• Gerhard, William D.; Millington, Henry W. (1981). Attack on a SIGINT Collector, the USS Liberty (PDF). NSA History Report, U.S. Cryptologic History series (Report). National Security Agency. Archived from the original (PDF) on 30 October 2012.
• The Attack on the 'Liberty' Incident (PDF) (Report). Israel Defence Forces, History Department. June 1982.
• Colonel Ram Ron (16 June 1967). Ram Ron Report (PDF) (Report). Israel Defense Forces Inquiry Commission Report.
• Oren, Michael B. (Spring 2000). "The 'USS Liberty': Case Closed". Azure. No. 9.
• Scott, James (2009). The Attack on the Liberty: The Untold Story of Israel's Deadly 1967 Assault on a U.S. Spy Ship.

 

[joy2day]

Okay, so of those 1000's of people 100% were on your side, or was their varying opinions?

If it's a "debatable" topic, as you seem to have presented, then why am I suddenly a "Conspiracy Theorist" when I side with people that were closely aligned with this topic?

I didn't bring this topic up, I just challenged you on your initial assertion that their was a clear unquestionable consensus on this due to investigations that are clearly up to debate given directives to lie about them.

As far as posters telling you I'm "obsessed" with Israel, or "antisemitic," it's ones that I have been debating with for the better part of the last year on the topic of the Gaza Genocide, ones that go out of their way to excuse every War Crime Israel is responsible for, so you aren't exactly getting a unbiased opinion there.

For the record, I'm not "antisemitic" I have nothing against Jews whatsoever and many of my friends that I regularly do stuff with are Jewish, and the majority of my sources on this topic are Jewish. I am however Anti-Zionist (if I'm allowed to say that on here) and I won't hide that fact.

Don't live in denial about yourself. You go on ad nauseum about this subject, and everyone knows it. Don't give yourself an aneurism about it. Take a deep breath. Anyway, I've gotta run, unlike you, I can't afford to spend half of my life spewing anger over Israel, and uh... denying antisemitism, yet going on about things from 50 years ago. Have a better one pal.

 

[joy2day]

Good reading material. Also, try these:

• Bamford, James (2001). Body of Secrets. Doubleday.
• Ennes, James M. Jr (1987). Assault on the Liberty: The True Story of the Israeli Attack on an American Intelligence Ship.
• Gerhard, William D.; Millington, Henry W. (1981). Attack on a SIGINT Collector, the USS Liberty (PDF). NSA History Report, U.S. Cryptologic History series (Report). National Security Agency. Archived from the original (PDF) on 30 October 2012.
• The Attack on the 'Liberty' Incident (PDF) (Report). Israel Defence Forces, History Department. June 1982.
• Colonel Ram Ron (16 June 1967). Ram Ron Report (PDF) (Report). Israel Defense Forces Inquiry Commission Report.
• Oren, Michael B. (Spring 2000). "The 'USS Liberty': Case Closed". Azure. No. 9.
• Scott, James (2009). The Attack on the Liberty: The Untold Story of Israel's Deadly 1967 Assault on a U.S. Spy Ship.

Opinion books, not authoritative and lacking 450 interviews with everyone involved. Nice try though. Have a better one.

 

[San Marino]

 

[Cole train]

Our military sweating since we bought israeli david sling anti air to stop missiles lol

 

[The Diplomat]

No, it was no accident. That is what the Israelis want the world to think. The US partly covered for the Israelis. The ship was attacked multiple times by air and sea assets. Since when does Israel not recognize an American flag? Did you read the testimony of the survivors? How they tried multiple times to tell the Israelis they were Americans. Conspiracy theory my ass. Cold blooded killing of Americans by the Israelis.

You know what? You're probably right. Mistakes have been made.

But what's really shocking, is that a pro-Russian guy like you is also pro-Iranian. WTF saw that coming?

 

[San Marino]

Well, this is not good for Israel and the US. China is supporting Iran!
Russia and North Korea are already onboard. This will go on for at least a year. I'm sure the Israelis were not expecting that.

 

[Deorum]

Our military sweating since we bought israeli david sling anti air to stop missiles lol

These things are nasty.

 

[Chules]

lmao

 

[aerius]

Looks like someone might have some anti-ship missiles which they're planning to test out against the US, that is, if the US is dumb enough to get involved. Fun times.