International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

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One of the Iranian military dude just repeated that Iran may launch strikes against U.S , French and British bases.

This is a terrible terrible idea unless they want to expeditate their own demise. They barely can handle Israel...they would get absolutely curb stomped against the collective west.

I know they are pissed off but launching missiles left and right at anyone they deem responsible for the 13th attacks is akin to digging your own grave. Unless they are completely insane which is not out of the realm of possibility.

I don't think they'll do it because they are pissed off or insane tbh i think they have their backs against the wall really. They have been attacked way too agressively for them to just sit and watch. They are not stupid they know on the 13th the collective west acted anyway and will act in the future regardless of how many "de-escalations". They know a massive bombardment campaign will be unleashed on them sooner or later and they are trying to tell them either stop Israel now or we're going to do what chatgpt tells us, hit you at the only place which we can hurt you while we still have a bunch of long range weapons on our hands. They won't have them at one point of the war and will only be left with territorial defense from a potential invasion. At least taking out the bases (if they can) in a coordinated missile attack buys them some time as it complicates/prolongs the western retaliation.
 
Video just thrown online from Tel Aviv is scary. Didn't know Iran builds multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles ballistics.
 
I don't think they'll do it because they are pissed off or insane tbh i think they have their backs against the wall really. They have been attacked way too agressively for them to just sit and watch. They are not stupid they know on the 13th the collective west acted anyway and will act in the future regardless of how many "de-escalations". They know a massive bombardment campaign will be unleashed on them sooner or later and they are trying to tell them either stop Israel now or we're going to do what chatgpt tells us, hit you at the only place which we can hurt you while we still have a bunch of long range weapons on our hands. They won't have them at one point of the war and will only be left with territorial defense from a potential invasion. At least taking out the bases (if they can) in a coordinated missile attack buys them some time as it complicates/prolongs the western retaliation.


You make some good points but it'still a terrible idea to drag in the west when you can barely handle a regional foe like Israel. Back against the wall or not. You're going against 3 additional nuclear powers if you bring France , the U.S and the U.K in the fold in by attacking their bases. Sometimes the wisest move to make is the one you don't make.

That said they are ultimately fucked so in a way they may go all in all guns blazing mode which is certainly gonna be the case if they proceed with this. They'll crumble before fall if they do this though unless Russia , China , Pakistan etc comes to their help. And that would mean WW3

Crazy times we live in
 


Supposed best missile defence system in the world getting wrecked by missiles from a 3rd world country.
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Netanyahu has a lot of blood on his hands. America needs to split from Israel, at least as long as he's in charge. Say what you want about who starts what, who is more in the wrong, etc, Hamas is a minor irritant at best that could easily be managed with any level of competency. This fucker likely intentionally allowed Oct. 7th to happen so he could be heavy handed with the Palestinians and could justify escalating with Iran. It's not acceptable what he's been allowed to get away with.
 
Is your stream above the clouds? I don't see any action at all.
 
> 70 years ago, Iran looked just like any Western country.
> Short skirts, rock’n’roll, open universities.
> It’s 1953. Iran elects a secular socialist: Mohammad Mossadegh.
> He nationalizes oil. That pisses off BP.
> Cold War excuse.
> CIA and MI6 stage a coup. Operation Ajax
> Mossadegh is overthrown
> They install the Shah, a brutal US-backed dictator.
> Secret police. Torture chambers.
> Iran turns into a puppet state.
> People are that desperate, they turn to Khomeini, an exiled cleric, promising independence and dignity.
> 1979: Islamic Revolution.
> The Shah flees.
> US embassy stormed. Hostage crisis.
> America never forgives.
> Arms Saddam Hussein.
> Iraq invades Iran.
> US provides chemical weapons, satellite intel, logistics.
> 1 million Iranians die.
> Iranian kids sent into minefields with plastic keys around their necks.
> US shoots down Iran Air Flight 655
> 290 civilians dead.
> No apology.
> Fast forward today, Israel attacks Iran.
> The U.S. immediately says “we stand with Israel.”
> They talk about “regime change.”
> They say that Iranians “deserve freedom.”
> No mention of the coup they started.
> No mention of the dictator they installed
.> No mention of the war they fueled.
> No mention of the decades of sanctions and sabotage.
> They created the monster, and now act shocked it’s still breathing.
There are no good guys in any of this. The Western elite are just as psychotic as all these 3rd world despots, they just have to package it a little differently to prevent a revolt from the people.

The world is a lie. The notion that the people pick their leaders and have any meaningful say is a lie. None of these leaders have any legitimate mandate or right to do any of this.
 
So you concede that Ward Boston's testimony in an affidavit may be genuine, but wave away the implications of the content because in your mind their may be other reasons for this pressure to lie about the attack, that you don't specify?

The cover-up was not a conspiracy it was a documented policy decision. One which required American officers to lie to protect a foreign state that had just murdered American sailors. If that doesn’t "make sense" to you, then perhaps the problem is not the theory. It’s your reluctance to believe your government is capable of moral cowardice when it serves geopolitical interests.
Again you aren't offering any new information other than some projection about bias; you are the one that is red hot about Israel, so no one is more likely to hold biases than you. Again, it has been chopped up by a lot of people over the years, some have their suspicions, but most don't hold the definitive belief that you do except those with an anti-Israel agenda. This has been the subject of a lot of academic scrutiny.

I am critical of Israel in certain ways as I am those in the ME that they clash with, but I am not carrying around an angry agenda and a giant Jewish chip on my shoulder.
 
Video just thrown online from Tel Aviv is scary. Didn't know Iran builds multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles ballistics.
This notion that Iran was some complete can was always retarded. They have a formidable military and weaponry and Israel is a glass cannon that is the size of New Jersey.
 
Again you aren't offering any new information other than some projection about bias; you are the one that is red hot about Israel, so no one is more likely to hold biases than you. Again, it has been chopped up by a lot of people over the years, some have their suspicions, but most don't hold the definitive belief that you do except those with an anti-Israel agenda. This has been the subject of a lot of academic scrutiny.

I am critical of Israel in certain ways as I am those in the ME that they clash with, but I am not carrying around an angry agenda and a giant Jewish chip on my shoulder.
My arguments against you on this topic aren't grounded in claiming bias, they are grounded in the verifiable information presented by the people involved in this situation.

Your arguments are grounded in me being a "conspiracy theorist" and "Anti-Israel" so you may want to go check out that mirror I referred to you a few posts back.
 
So a major oil producing country that the United Nations says is not working on a nuclear weapon

Is being attacked by Israel with weapons the USA gifted them

Because Israel says they in fact ARE working on a weapon

And we’re being told just like with Iraq that Iran might launch nuclear weapons any day now and that a preemptive strike is and was our best option

Is this seriously happening?

Iran sells most of its oil to China. Isn’t that the case?
 
You make some good points but it'still a terrible idea to drag in the west when you can barely handle a regional foe like Israel. Back against the wall or not. You're going against 3 additional nuclear powers if you bring France , the U.S and the U.K in the fold in by attacking their bases. Sometimes the wisest move to make is the one you don't make.

That said they are ultimately fucked so in a way they may go all in all guns blazing mode which is certainly gonna be the case if they proceed with this. They'll crumble before fall if they do this though unless Russia , China , Pakistan etc comes to their help. And that would mean WW3

Crazy times we live in

You likely have presented the most pragmatic and rational approach, btw applied so far by them. Personally I would go even further if I was them, I would throw Russia and China away as they surely will never help and are back stabbers, throw away nuclear program and accept to become second saudi arabia

But they have other plans obviously, staying away from America's orbit it is. Now seen from that angle, maybe they even waited for way too long. Had they gone all in back in early 2024 while Israel was busy with Gaza and Hezbollah was still quite active and they could have used Syrian territory to send troops as well they might have had a better chance. With Assad gone and Nasrallah decimated they waited hoping nothing happens and boom Israel destroys their nuclear facilities and military command structure. They see a pattern of getting a much worse beating every time they tuck tail so this time (could be late btw) can be the last time they still have something in their hands and the decision might be "use it and die or don't use it and die"
 
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