International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

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  • I do not support Israel attacking Iran

    Votes: 223 61.6%

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What I find ironic in Iran's strike to Israel's Military Headquarters HaKirya is where it is located...

Right in Central Tel Aviv. Embedded in the middle of a metropolis. Surrounded by residential apartments, public parks, and shopping centers.

Sounds a lot like Israel is embedding it's military within the population.

So using Israeli logic, does Iran get to just shrug it's shoulders when civilian casualties transpire?
 
Snubnoze707 said:
What I find ironic in Iran's strike to Israel's Military Headquarters HaKirya is where it is located...

Right in Central Tel Aviv. Embedded in the middle of a metropolis. Surrounded by residential apartments, public parks, and shopping centers.

Sounds a lot like Israel is embedding it's military within the population.

So using Israeli logic, does Iran get to just shrug it's shoulders when civilian casualties transpire?
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Or scientists or civilian defense contractors. Or say Intel's fabs. Valid targets for me, not for thee.
 
Israel targets military insitiutions. Iran targets civilians.

Ukraine targets military. Russia targets civillians.

If it's not evil it's probably just a sign that their intel is awful and they don't know what to hit.
 
ShadowRun said:
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Indeed. U-235 (Uranium) is used in nuclear power plants. It is not made there. It is mostly 7% enriched. Bomb grade U-235 needs to be 90% enriched. Let us not forget the Israelis built their nuclear bomb program against American wishes with stolen American U-235 from our nuclear power plants. The Israelis ran a parallel program to hide the bomb making program. Israel will still not admit or deny to having nuclear weapons. Russia, North Korea, and Pakistan could provide Iran with the technology needed to finish building their first atomic bomb. Making that gadget small enough to fit on top of a missile is a different story. The missile Iran already has.
 
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PBAC said:
Israel targets military insitiutions. Iran targets civilians.
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he really believes it <lmao>
 
look I'm late to this conversation here, ok, but:

does anyone think Iran posed an imminent threat to Israel, here?
 
IanEdwards said:
look I'm late to this conversation here, ok, but:

does anyone think Iran posed an imminent threat to Israel, here?
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uhh... is that ian edwards ian edwards? welcome, if so.

long story short, no not at all.
 
The evidence is weak, in basically every related conflict including the present one, that either side intentionally targets civilian populations with projectile strikes.

Of course, this commentary won't play well with some. But the reality is that military aerial combat resources are extremely valuable. Arbitrary low numbers of civilian lives are not strategically valuable.

There are numerous reasons why civilian areas get hit. They are not limited to, defense valuable areas being within city limits, failure of targeting systems, redirection or debris from collision with projectile defense systems, saturation tactics, etc.

People will post a video of some civilian infrastructure damage and claim the other side is targeting civilian infrastructure. I think that betrays a deep lack of acceptance of how powerful modern munitions are. A single strategically well-placed munitions strike to target large civilian populations could kill 5 figure amounts of people. We basically haven't seen that anywhere in the world.

Political leaders on all sides like to say that I am playing fair and my opponent, my opponent is a scoundrel who plays unfairly. But most sides play, what we might call, "fairly", the problematic thing is not that they are playing unfairly it's that they are playing.
 
Chules said:
You gullible thick cunt
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what is to get in it? Israel hit nuclear facilities and Iran hit residential areas.

Ukraine hits military military airfields; Russia hits residential neighbourhoods and cinemas.

If you have to fight war the more strategic forms of attack are preferential over a need to instill fear.
 
PBAC said:
what is to get in it? Israel hit nuclear facilities and Iran hit residential areas.

Ukraine hits military military airfields; Russia hits residential neighbourhoods and cinemas.

If you have to fight war the more strategic forms of attack are preferential over a need to instill fear.
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Did they hit residential areas though? Seems like they were going for military targets within Tel Aviv.
 
PBAC said:
Israel targets military insitiutions. Iran targets civilians.

Ukraine targets military. Russia targets civillians.

If it's not evil it's probably just a sign that their intel is awful and they don't know what to hit.
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Israel attacked Tehran and Iran attacked Tel Aviv.

Those seem comparable to me.
 
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