International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

Choose the following that best describes your position

  • I do not support Israel attacking Iran

    Votes: 223 61.6%

  • I support Israel attacking Iran, but do not support America becoming directly involved.

    Votes: 93 25.7%

  • I’m for America directly involving itself in the conflict.

    Votes: 46 12.7%
  • Total voters
    362
  • Poll closed .
When Iran runs out of arrows, it's over.
 
Snubnoze707 said:
Israel really loves to control the narrative don't they?

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This is the humiliated rag ran by a radical pro-Palestinian woman that fabricated a false story that Assad didn't attack Ghouta with chemical weapons years ago.

Of course they have nothing to substantiate this allegation, and they never will. This is a propaganda outfit. There is no truth or news they will broadcast.
 
AL-Tappo McSnappo said:
Israel can behead 100 babies right in front of the white house and the usa congress would clap for them, it was never usa first for them.
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That's American politicians. I am talking about global relations (how the average person thinks). Israel isn't invincible, but I'm certain Israelis feel like they are. They cannot go killing hundreds of thousands/millions of people because it would completely wreck their image.
 
Madmick said:
This is the humiliated rag ran by a radical pro-Palestinian woman that fabricated a false story that Assad didn't attack Ghouta with chemical weapons years ago.

Of course they have nothing to substantiate this allegation, and they never will. This is a propaganda outfit. There is no truth or news they will broadcast.
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You mean the accurate assessment that the Ghouta gas attack had evidence that countered the narrative that Assad was responsible, as backed up by the OPCW whistleblowers? That reporting?

The Gray Zone was the one that broke that story. Aaron Mate and Max Blumenthal, both Jewish.
 
TeTe said:
Which I'm sure they don't... Just like Iraq didn't either. Bush and netanyahu were cut from the same cloth.
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They don't but it is common knowledge that they are close. Iraq didn't have nuclear facilities, uranium enrichment, etc. Iran does- that's what Israel destroyed. That isn't in question.
 
Tatra said:
Dumb take. Tehran is a huge city. Israel nuking it would be a massive self-inflicted wound, one which it probably wouldn't recover from.
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It’s a dumb take because israel understands how moronic it would be to use nukes when it could take Iran out conventionally as it is doing already Iran is toothless and overrated
 
Hog-train said:
Fact of the matter is, unless Israel does a nuclear strike, neither side can totally "defeat" the other side.
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I'm not so sure about that. I don't know how this conflict will end. Both sides are just bombing each other right now. Israel wants Iran's nuke facilities and a defense of its country. Iran wants to defend its country and save its nuclear program. Some of those Iranian nuke facilities are built deep inside of a mountain. Those will never be destroyed. Not even with a nuke. Iran can over time bring other Arab countries to their cause -- a coalition. That would really complicate things. So, what is the end game for both Israel and Iran? What will cause one side or the other to stop attacking? How deep is the US going to be dragged into this mess? There is a chance Israel could go nuclear if overwhelmed. This is nothing like the Israeli wars of the 60s and 70s. Pakistan now has nuclear missiles that could hit Israel.
 
Snubnoze707 said:
You mean the accurate assessment that the Ghouta gas attack had evidence that countered the narrative that Assad was responsible, as backed up by the OPCW whistleblowers? That reporting?

The Gray Zone was the one that broke that story. Aaron Mate and Max Blumenthal, both Jewish.
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The "OPCW whistleblowers", LOL? Nobody blew a whistle. Someone sent an email that got hacked.

The OPCW itself pointed directly and unequivocally at Assad as responsible following their investigation just like the every other humanitarian watchdog that investigated the attack, and every first world country's intelligence agencies.

Furthermore, that Wikileaks garbage was the product of a Russian counterintelligence effort, one which sought to suggest the attack didn't happen at all, btw, not that it was perpetrated by Assad's enemies, not that they were nice people or weren't capable of it, and was debunked later by Bellingcat.
...and then three years later definitively by the OPCW itself:

The Mint Press's track record of fraudulent reporting, evasiveness, and aggression against those who confront it for this is long established. Goes back over a decade:
www.minnpost.com

The mystery of MintPress News - MinnPost

MintPress’ founder, CEO and editor in chief, Mnar Muhawesh, is back in the news.
www.minnpost.com www.minnpost.com
 
San Marino said:
I'm not so sure about that. I don't know how this conflict will end. Both sides are just bombing each other right now. Israel wants Iran's nuke facilities and a defense of its country. Iran wants to defend its country and save its nuclear program. Some of those Iranian nuke facilities are built deep inside of a mountain. Those will never be destroyed. Not even with a nuke. Iran can over time bring other Arab countries to their cause -- a coalition. That would really complicate things. So, what is the end game for both Israel and Iran? What will cause one side or the other to stop attacking? How deep is the US going to be dragged into this mess? There is a chance Israel could go nuclear if overwhelmed. This is nothing like the Israeli wars of the 60s and 70s. Pakistan now has nuclear missiles that could hit Israel.
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The sooner the American politicians understand that Israel is a lost cause the better for them. I was debating my university professor who told me that Israel may not be around in the 2050s and at the time I disagreed with him but he was right and it was back in 2007 that was long time ago. By the way RIP to this professor he died 10 years ago.

His points were simple he said time, population increase in the Mideast due to high fertility rate plus the explusion of technology worldwide will eventually be a mountain to climb for Israel.

He said technology advancement across the world will increase sharply from 20s to the 50s which is happening now and he said Israel´s population won´t grow due to poor fertility rate but the mideast is growing super fast with an average age of just 21 years hence he said he was fairly confident that time, population increase and technological explusion means that Israel is not a feasible project in the long term and he was absolutely correct and I disagreed with him at the time but as I grew more mature with time I understand his take.

The US should cut it´s losses short and doesn´t need to waste money on projects that are not feasible in the long term as time is not on Israel´s side, just like for the Crusaders it was not feasible for them to be there in the long term outside of 8-9 decades due to logistics and the same with Israel
 
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San Marino said:
I'm not so sure about that. I don't know how this conflict will end. Both sides are just bombing each other right now. Israel wants Iran's nuke facilities and a defense of its country. Iran wants to defend its country and save its nuclear program. Some of those Iranian nuke facilities are built deep inside of a mountain. Those will never be destroyed. Not even with a nuke. Iran can over time bring other Arab countries to their cause -- a coalition. That would really complicate things. So, what is the end game for both Israel and Iran? What will cause one side or the other to stop attacking? How deep is the US going to be dragged into this mess? There is a chance Israel could go nuclear if overwhelmed. This is nothing like the Israeli wars of the 60s and 70s. Pakistan now has nuclear missiles that could hit Israel.
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Only way the Iranian underground reactor’s get destroyed is if the USA gets involved. That’s what Israel want to happen. Iran need to get a deterrent and escalate their nuclear weapon program because if the USA get involved they’re obviously fucked
 
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