International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[Snubnoze707]

The guy’s not even been in office a year. There’s a lot of crap to clean up left from the last administration. I dunno man, I’m gonna give him some time to see how things end up. I’m just glad Harris didn’t win.

I'm glad Harris didn't win as well, but I'm not going to keep the illusion going just because the Democrats are hot garbage trash. Just because he's better, doesn't mean he's good. These aren't just simply problems relating to lack of time, these are decisions being made.

 

[joy2day]

LOL they won't fight for you against their own people/government.

Foreign invaders are the worst things ever.

I don't think you know much about the youth in Iran. They would have to have a revolution like they did in 1979; that was from the people up, not a coup. I wasn't saying anything about foreign invaders.

 

[Tabarnakos]

You're not a smart person. It's okay, not everybody can be smart.

That guy is a caricature. He's playing a troll role. I'm 99% sure of it which is why i never bothered with him.

If by chance i'm wrong with the 1% then he's as bright as a rock. So in any case you are correct lol

 

[Bwagster]

I'm glad Harris didn't win as well, but I'm not going to keep the illusion going just because the Democrats are hot garbage trash. Just because he's better, doesn't mean he's good. These aren't just simply problems relating to lack of time, these are decisions being made.

I like Trump, to each their own.

 

[Hog-train]

Maybe but not necessarily. The secular movement has 84% support in Iran; the people in Iran are different than other ME nations because there is a vast population of liberal young people. Remember there was a revolution that took the Shah out in 1979. Fundamentalist takeover MIGHT happen, but it isn't the inevitability that it would be in other parts of the ME. And the government there now is as bad as it gets, so it is unlikely to get any worse.

Every single time the West has tried to do regime change in the Middle East, it ended in disaster and there was chaos and then another repressive regime eventually took charge.

There was never any promised Arab spring. They did it in Iran, Iraq, In Libya with Gaddafi, tried in Afghanistan and now the Taliban is back in charge, etc.

Forced regime change in the ME has quite literally NEVER WORKED.

 

[avenue94]

1) In the long run? The worm thwarted Iran for years.
(2) Strategically, it was a huge victory and cost Iran years.

It delayed Iran more likely months, but cost a lot of pain and money to replace about a quarter of Iran's centrifuges. That was what FAS concluded at the time, and ISIS also corroborated it and found that uranium enrichment didn't even decline in 201.

strategic failure in the big picture. - avenue94

And yet it failed in its chief purpose - avenue94

It taught the Iranians to be smarter with proliferation and again, the agreement we struck froze Iran's program for 3 years. Much more than Stuxnet.

(4) It succeeded in stopping Iran's development by years.

What's your source on this?

 

[IDGETKTFO]

"I want to be unpredictable!"

- Donald J. Trump

Isn't this chicks husband in jail for child porn? I think his name is BO?

 

[IDGETKTFO]

 

[joy2day]

Every single time the West has tried to do regime change in the Middle East, it ended in disaster and there was chaos and then another repressive regime eventually took charge.

There was never any promised Arab spring. They did it in Iran, Iraq, In Libya with Gaddafi, tried in Afghanistan and now the Taliban is back in charge, etc.

Forced regime change in the ME has quite literally NEVER WORKED.

I was talking about an internal revolution like they had in 1979.

 

[Hog-train]

I was talking about an internal revolution like they had in 1979.

But the internal revolution was ultimately a consequence of the 1950's coup d'etat which we were responsible for.

And the 1979 revolution just led to an even more extreme religious theocracy.

We keep fucking with the Middle Eastern countries governments thinking it will lead to some Kumbaya democracy when there is zero evidence this will ever happen.

 

[avenue94]

They just need to take out Iran's leadership and let the people take over. No need for full scale military war.

How did that work out in Libya?

 

[Jacket time]

The people in our cities are waving Mexican flags.
The people we elected are waving Israeli flags.

Fuckkkkk

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

ROFL that's what terror mostly is is- attacking civilians. They are #1 terror sponsor in the world.

well right, all the attacks he listed were on military installments unless i missed something. but because they were suicide bombs or something, they were all terrorism. maybe i'm misreading and it excluded the civilian casualties or something.

I think you are just blinded with anger toward Israel and unable to process facts. No one is making a pissing contest between Israel and Iran- the subject is Iran's terror and why they shouldn't have nukes..

again, israel has committed, sponsored and commits blatant terror attacks, at least one against the west. if the comparison were with a different country, i'd be giving some more ground here.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Israel really loves to control the narrative don't they?

 

[Aurelian]

How did that work out in Libya?

Not an expert on Libya and Gaddafi. But, research estimates that only 15% of Iranians support the Khamanei regime.

How much worse could it get if he was taken out and replaced?

Edit: Iran's Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance found 92% of those surveyed were against him.

Survey Reveals 92% of Iranians Oppose the Regime: Growing Discontent and Calls for Change - Iran News Update

The results of the Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance's survey paint a stark picture of a nation deeply unhappy with its leadership.

irannewsupdate.com

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Israel really loves to control the narrative don't they?

lol my cousin is an uber-zionist journalist and they posted some shit like "israel is telling people NOT to post videos or pictures of the attacks" and then posted like 14 in a row

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Not an expert on Libya and Gaddafi. But, research estimates that only 15% of Iranians support the Khamanei regime.

How much worse could it get if he was taken out and replaced?

right, what the middle east needs is more forced regime changes.

 

[HereticBD]

Isn't this chicks husband in jail for child porn? I think his name is BO?

No, no, no.

It was just some minor run of the mill human trafficking.

 

[joy2day]

But the internal revolution was ultimately a consequence of the 1950's coup d'etat which we were responsible for.

And the 1979 revolution just led to an even more extreme religious theocracy.

We keep fucking with the Middle Eastern countries governments thinking it will lead to some Kumbaya democracy when there is zero evidence this will ever happen.

Today's young people are totally different than they were in 1979. An uprising now could be different because Iran is different; the population is quite young. The vast majority of the population want a secular democracy, which is VERY different than it is everywhere else in the region, where most people want Islamic Law. I'm not saying it WOULD be different, I'm saying it isn't a given that it wouldn't.

 

[Aurelian]

right, what the middle east needs is more forced regime changes.

You might be the only person who actually likes Khamanei.

Survey Reveals 92% of Iranians Oppose the Regime: Growing Discontent and Calls for Change - Iran News Update

The results of the Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance's survey paint a stark picture of a nation deeply unhappy with its leadership.

irannewsupdate.com