International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[avenue94]

Ironic. I read this thinking the US telling Israel, "No, don't attack that" somehow becoming "the US picked which targets to attack" in Avenue's insane brain was a pretty apropos way to put it.

If country A tells country B which targets are ok and which aren't, is it picking targets? You're doing gymnastics here. Poorly.

And let's not forget, if this is your definition for the US "waging war against Iran" in concert with Israel, then...
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-ea...in-to-help-israel-intercept-missiles-16749866

If you want to argue that Iran and Israel engaged in a brief war that ended in a de facto ceasefire, sure.

My preference would have been for the US to let Isdael deal with the consequences of attacking a diplomatic compound.

...we went to war nearly a year ago, and this

If you're willing to maintain consistency and also argue that the US and Korea are still at war, again go for it.

 

[avenue94]

I read half of this before getting bored by how you're so transparently trying to change the subject

You could just admit the obvious: you have never read JCPOA since it's longer than a tweet.

Actually, if you bothered to read that CNN article @Madmick posted, you'd learn that Iran's denuclearization during the JCPOA never happened.

Go ahead, say CNN is right-wing propaganda.

Hint: the agreement went into effect in 2016 and included a one time exception that all parties agreed to in the interest of getting it off the ground.

Wow... You may be on the verge of figuring out international law is bullshit.

Tell me you don't have a passport without saying it outright. International law isn't perfect but its quite useful and very real.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

It's interesting how little astroturfed support was pushed for this one compared to Iraq. It's the same boomer slop about wmds and Omg they're close to the bomb we've been hearing for close to 30 years. Severely undercooked and weak sauce propaganda, with vague and unconvincing arguments, which only means the military industrial complex thinks it's so outside any form of retribution from the public that it could just say fuck you we're doing it instead.

 

[Koya]

It's interesting how little astroturfed support was pushed for this one compared to Iraq. It's the same boomer slop about wmds and Omg they're close to the bomb we've been hearing for close to 30 years. Severely undercooked and weak sauce propaganda, with vague and unconvincing arguments, which only means the military industrial complex thinks it's so outside any form of retribution from the public that it could just say fuck you we're doing it instead.

Oh but it's definitely astrosurfed. Go on Reddit r/worldnews or t/geopolitics and the hasbara are in full 24/7 propaganda mode there

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Oh but it's definitely astrosurfed. Go on Reddit r/worldnews or t/geopolitics and the hasbara are in full 24/7 propaganda mode there

yeah but it's weak sauce like i said. the replies of "i'm not dying for..." are all over the place. you can't really manufacture a situation where you can force a "if you don't support this you're not patriotic and we'll put the patriot act on you" argument on people like it was the case with iraq 2003. i just don't see it. if it happens it will simply be - fuck you, we'll do it and there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[KnightTemplar]

yeah but it's weak sauce like i said. the replies of "i'm not dying for..." are all over the place. you can't really manufacture a situation where you can force a "if you don't support this you're not patriotic and we'll put the patriot act on you" argument on people like it was the case with iraq 2003. i just don't see it. if it happens it will simply be - fuck you, we'll do it and there's nothing you can do about it.

'twas ever thus. Almost a million people marched in opposition to Britain taking part in the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Our government simply ignored them and sent the troops in anyway.

Democracy is Santa Clause for adults.

 

[Koya]

 

[Fox by the Sea]

'twas ever thus. Almost a million people marched in opposition to Britain taking part in the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Our government simply ignored them and sent the troops in anyway.

Democracy is Santa Clause for adults.

I think the only place where democracy exists anymore in the western world is the local elections, like the local mayor, local proposals that refer only to local shit.
I think there's almost ZERO way the public is even in on the foreign policy or big money decisions, or even things like demographics. europe doesn't want immigration, the public is clear on that, yet we get massive immigration. we don't want war - we get war.

to think democracy is still a real thing in the west is, i agree, silly. all evidence points to the contrary.

 

[Cherry Brigand]

politics and retards go hand in hand

Yes. Just look at us here in the war room.

 

[Michaelangelo]

Yes. Just look at us here in the war room.

Good point

People literally arguing about colors

May as well eat those red and blue crayons

 

[Hellowhosthat]

yeah but it's weak sauce like i said. the replies of "i'm not dying for..." are all over the place. you can't really manufacture a situation where you can force a "if you don't support this you're not patriotic and we'll put the patriot act on you" argument on people like it was the case with iraq 2003. i just don't see it. if it happens it will simply be - fuck you, we'll do it and there's nothing you can do about it.

Yeah, unfortunately that's basically what they did in the UK with Iraq. The whole country was pretty much against it but war criminal Blair went in anyway against the will of the people.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I must say I am enjoying some of the strange war room alliances that are unfolding in this thread though. Some Sherbro tag teams I would never have expected to see.

 

[San Marino]

We picked which targets Israel would attack and not attack and provided the weapons and intelligence for targeting. We also signed off on their war plans.

We did? How do you know this? What source are you using? That would be classified, would it not? Israel does not need Americans for any of that. Israel started their attack on Iran last Friday without American approval. Trump was still negotiating with Iran.

 

[Hog-train]

Actually, if you bothered to read that CNN article @Madmick posted, you'd learn that Iran's denuclearization during the JCPOA never happened.

Iran complied with the JCPOA before the United States withdrew from the agreement in 2018,

JCPOA did not aim for complete "denuclearization" in the sense of eliminating all Iranian nuclear capabilities. Instead, it sought to constrain Iran's nuclear program and prevent it from developing nuclear weapons.

And Iran was abiding by everything agreed to in the JCPOA until the pullout in 2018.

Things said to the contrary are propaganda bullshit.

 

[Rholk]

Seems like the Iranians are busier creating AI pictures of winning a war than they are actually fighting the real one lol

 

[Madmick]

If country A tells country B which targets are ok and which aren't, is it picking targets? You're doing gymnastics here. Poorly.

If Country B picks targets, then asks if there are any Country A doesn't want them to hit, then Country A didn't pick the targets. That's not mental gymnastics. It's simply not being a retard.

If you want to argue that Iran and Israel engaged in a brief war that ended in a de facto ceasefire, sure.

Nope. No formal truce was established. This is merely a continuation. Biden's war. Democrats are warmongerers.

Can't have it both ways, sweetheart.

My preference would have been for the US to let Isdael deal with the consequences of attacking a diplomatic compound.

If you're willing to maintain consistency and also argue that the US and Korea are still at war, again go for it.

In the minds of the DPRK, clearly the war never ended.

 

[curryjunkie]

Jesus Christ. How on earth can someone that retarded get elected?

Texans...

 

[Chules]

 

[PEB]

America "middle class" get ready to open your checkbook.

 

[lsa]

"There are currently over 110 ongoing armed conflicts globally."