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That s true. It’s difficult to defend Iran these days, just like it has been difficult to defend Russia. That doesn’t make Israel’s pretext to bomb them sketchy.

It must be really disheartening for the Hamas, Gazans etc. To see Iran getting bomb. Before a lot of people believes that Iran can atleast play as a counterbalance againts Israel and that Israel and the US would never launch a deep strike into Iran for fear of major escalation and if they did it would cost heavy casualties on both sides that might convince Israel to back off.

But now that Israel alone is smashing Iran future Khamenei threats of violence againts Israel if they continue their Gasa offensive becomes impotent.
 
I dont disagree. I just think it’s really weird that both sides are arguing over the nuclear weapons pretext when we don’t need to go that far to find a good justification for bombing them.

I guess it’s possible I’m wrong and just don’t know what I’m talking about, or maybe it’s having grown up with the Iraq war, but the nuclear weapons thing smells of bullshit to me.
Tbh, I never thought I’d say this, but the world would probably be safer if Iran DID have a nuclear weapon.
 
It must be really disheartening for the Hamas, Gazans etc. To see Iran getting bomb. Before a lot of people believes that Iran can atleast play as a counterbalance againts Israel and that Israel and the US would never launch a deep strike into Iran for fear of major escalation and if they did it would cost heavy casualties on both sides that might convince Israel to back off.

But now that Israel alone is smashing Iran future Khamenei threats of violence againts Israel if they continue their Gasa offensive becomes impotent.
I think in general it must suck for shia arabs especially Palestinians as ironically, the only only ones to GAF about them are Persians. Arabs with power i e Gulf Arabs never lifted a finger for Palestinians.
 
Very little chance of 'boots on the ground.'
Trump's three biggest promises during the 2024 campaign were...
*A vibrant economy.
*Fixing the border & illegal immigration.
*No new wars.

And the events of the last week seems to make it tempting to make major compromises with two of those promises, but at best Trump will only aid Israel in a support role like sharing intelligence, defensive anti-missle aid, and refueling Israel's jets mid-air.

Israel has done an excellent job so far, so why would they need us to help finish the job?
Nah man, we are about to start bombing. It’s not a war in the sense that I don’t see us putting troops in Iran, but I think we are about to take the lead on this campaign. Sucks and I wish we weren’t.
 

Donald Trump not seeking ceasefire but wants ‘a real end’ to Iran’s nuclear programme​

US president suggests decisive moment is imminent in Israel’s bombing campaign

Julian Borger in Jaffa

Donald Trump has said he is not seeking a ceasefire in Israel’s war on Iran but instead wants to see “a real end” to Iran’s nuclear programme, with Tehran abandoning it “entirely”.

The US president predicted Israel would not let up in its bombing campaign and suggested a decisive moment in that campaign was imminent, though he made clear he expected Israel to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities without US help.

“You’re going to find out over the next two days … Nobody’s slowed up so far,” he told CBS News, after abruptly abandonning a G7 summit in the Canadian Rockies, saying he was returning to the White House to deal with the conflict.

Speaking to reporters on the way back to Washington, Trump said he was seeking “an end, a real end, not a ceasefire”.


That would involve a “complete give-up” by Iran, he said. Trump’s negotiating position before the Israeli attack was that Iran should stop uranium enrichment entirely, and he blamed Tehran for not accepting that proposal.

Trump also stressed that any Iranian attack on Americans or US bases, which Iran has threatened, would be met with overwhelming force, saying: “We’ll come down so hard, it’d be gloves off.”

Iran’s foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, said Iran was open to resuming talks with the US about its nuclear programme. “If President Trump is genuine about diplomacy and interested in stopping this war, next steps are consequential,” Araghchi said in a statement.

Asked whether he would dispatch envoy Steve Witkoff or the vice-president, JD Vance, for direct talks with Iran, Trump was noncommittal, however, saying it would depend “on what happens when I get back”. He later said: “I’m not too much in the mood to negotiate.”

Benjamin Netanyahu was also dismissive of the idea of diplomacy. “Of course they want to stop. They want to stop, and to keep producing the tools of death. We gave that a chance,” the Israeli prime minister said, laying out a new, expanded set of war aims.

“We want three central results: eliminating the nuclear programme, eliminating the ability to produce ballistic missiles and eliminating the axis of terror. We will obviously do what we must to achieve these objectives, and we have been coordinating well with the United States.”

On his Truth Social online platform overnight, Trump was even more threatening than the Israelis, declaring: “Everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran!”, after an Israeli evacuation order to part of northern Tehran affecting a third of a million people, warning of the imminent bombing of the district.

The Israeli online order was modelled on those routinely issued to Palestinians in Gaza, where bombing by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has flattened entire residential neighbourhoods over the course of a 20-month conflict.


The Israeli ultimatum on Monday said the bombing of Tehran would be aimed at “military infrastructure”, but one of the targets hit was a state television station, killing three staff and ending live broadcasts. Israel has also been bombing Iran’s oil and gas installations, and Iran has retaliated with strikes on Haifa, damaging a power station and a refinery in the Mediterranean port.

Israeli airstrikes killed at least 24 Iranians across the country on Tuesday morning, bringing the toll since Friday’s surprise attack to at least 224 people dead and more than 1,400 injured, its health ministry said. The scale of destruction and the threats from the IDF and Trump triggered an exodus of Tehranis jamming the roads out of the capital overnight.

In Israel, the death toll by Tuesday morning was 24, with about 600 injured. Iran fired a total of 20 to 30 missiles on Tuesday morning, according to the IDF, lightly wounding five people, marking a significant drop in the tempo of its attack compared with the previous few days.

The IDF said Iran had used 370 missiles in eight salvos out of a US-estimated arsenal of 3,000 ballistic missiles. The IDF further claims to have destroyed 200 of Iran’s missile launchers, half the total, and to be hunting the remainder, continually constricting Tehran’s ability to retaliate.

Israel has also struck a severe blow to Iran’s chain of command, killing at least 11 top generals, and in some cases, their replacements. On Tuesday, the IDF said it had killed the acting armed forces commander, Maj Gen Ali Shadmani, who had been in the post for only four days, after his predecessor was targeted in the first wave of strikes on Friday morning.

“Iran is completely naked and we have full freedom of action. This is an unprecedented achievement,” an IDF general staff officer told the newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth.

If IDF claims of its dominance are borne out, it will leave Iran with few cards to play. The Iranian parliament has prepared a bill that would withdraw Iran from the 1968 nuclear non-proliferation treaty, so that it would no longer be legally bound to forgo nuclear weapons, but the government insists it remains opposed to all weapons of mass destruction.

State TV has also aired calls from hardline politicians suggesting that Iran block the strategic Strait of Hormuz, potentially stopping the passage of more than 17m barrels of oil a day, and producing a dramatic spike in world oil prices and global inflation.

Trump’s abrupt departure from the G7 summit in Canada, coupled with the eastward deployment of significant numbers of US military aircraft, had provoked speculation that Trump was contemplating US participation in the offensive, contributing bombers and huge penetrating munitions that experts say are necessary to destroy deeply buried Iranian uranium enrichment plants.

When asked about US involvement, Trump responded that the Iranian nuclear programme “is wiped out long before that”.

A White House spokesperson, Alex Pfeiffer, denied reports of US participation in Israeli offensive operations.

“American forces are maintaining their defensive posture, and that has not changed. We will defend American interests,” Pfeiffer wrote.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...t-wants-a-real-end-to-irans-nuclear-programme
 
I think in general it must suck for shia arabs especially Palestinians as ironically, the only only ones to GAF about them are Persians. Arabs with power i e Gulf Arabs never lifted a finger for Palestinians.
Yeah I have Malay muslim friends who are very passionate about the Gaza, Palestine crisis and they are no fan of the Arab gulfs, Saudis etc. One Immam wants to even boycott mosques funded by Sauds.
 
Dave is a annoying idiot



All the people on Twitter saying this will fracture MAGA only hopped on the train once it was clear DeSantis was starting to tank, and that Trump would emerge as the candidate. Like Matt Walsh and those types. People like Jimmy Dore were not even on the right, let alone like Trump.
I don’t know Dave smith, but based on what he was saying, sounds like he was a democrat, or at least voted for Biden in 2020, and was hesitant to vote Trump in 2024, likely only decided to some point after the Biden debate and Harris became the candidate.

Just imagine is DeSantis or Haley were president right now, we would already have boots on the ground and dropping bombs ourselves. Harris? Lol

I think this is a great take

 
The amount of antisemitism I see is crazy, I never thought I would see this much in current times. Of course half of the idiots think Iran is full of Arabs .

Antisemitism? People are just completely tired of the war propaganda coming out of Israel my guy. You think these messages resonate with the average American citizen?





The fact you call it "antisemitism" for being completely against these talking points tells me all I need to know. You damn sure don't believe in America first.
 
- Trump doesn look for a ceasefire
- a nice guy named Emmanuel , mentioned that, but he doesnt get it right too often
- Instead Trump is looking for the end, real end, and giving up entirelly which is also ok

 
Nah man, we are about to start bombing. It’s not a war in the sense that I don’t see us putting troops in Iran, but I think we are about to take the lead on this campaign. Sucks and I wish we weren’t.
Iran and that arrogant Ayatohla are about to find out why.

Why your country does not have good healthcare and social welfare.
 
I dont disagree. I just think it’s really weird that both sides are arguing over the nuclear weapons pretext when we don’t need to go that far to find a good justification for bombing them.

I guess it’s possible I’m wrong and just don’t know what I’m talking about, or maybe it’s having grown up with the Iraq war, but the nuclear weapons thing smells of bullshit to me.
The pretext is horse shit. Iran’s nuclear topic has been a topic for 20 years. Iran was complying with the IAA and the deal was working. Obama was even talking about normalisation of Iranian relationships. Do you remember that? There was a small diplomatic crisis with Israel. Then Trump withdrew unilaterally from the atomic deal.

Meanwhile October 2024 happened and Israel went batshit with Gaza, Lebanon, extraterritorial strikes on Iranian generals, etc.

I think Israel went full hawkish and sees clearly that Russia has its hands full at the moment so they are going after Iran. The nuclear pretext is W 2003 style. And you can see how much Netanyahu is trying hard to use a narrative that will bait America into this, with the nuclear part, the « death to America » part, the « they went to exterminate Jews » part, etc.

And BTW anyone who is familiar with my posting can’t accuse me of being a leftist.
 
All the people on Twitter saying this will fracture MAGA only hopped on the train once it was clear DeSantis was starting to tank, and that Trump would emerge as the candidate. Like Matt Walsh and those types. People like Jimmy Dore were not even on the right, let alone like Trump.
I don’t know Dave smith, but based on what he was saying, sounds like he was a democrat, or at least voted for Biden in 2020, and was hesitant to vote Trump in 2024, likely only decided to some point after the Biden debate and Harris became the candidate.

Just imagine is DeSantis or Haley were president right now, we would already have boots on the ground and dropping bombs ourselves. Harris? Lol

I think this is a great take



We would have boots on the ground if Harris was President? What are you talking about? Just making shit up to try and justify Trump getting us directly involved in conflict in the ME after running on "No new wars!" and telling millions of people wars wouldn't have happened if he was President?

You think the MAGET crowd agrees with this video by the IDF? You think it riles them up to go to war?



Trump has completely fucked himself and Republicans for the next 10 years if he actively starts bombing Iran.
 
Yeah I have Malay muslim friends who are very passionate about the Gaza, Palestine crisis and they are no fan of the Arab gulfs, Saudis etc. One Immam wants to even boycott mosques funded by Sauds.
Yes. Saudi Arabia is a toxic country and is responsible for the spread of salafism. It’s not a coincidence that everyone has been rolling out the red carpet for that piece of shit in charge in Syria (Al Qaeda offshoot).
 
Yes. Saudi Arabia is a toxic country and is responsible for the spread of salafism. It’s not a coincidence that everyone has been rolling out the red carpet for that piece of shit in charge in Syria (Al Qaeda offshoot).

Syria is another question mark in this Iran-Israel conflict.

I haven't followed the Syrian new government much in the news though I heard the US now recognizes them as legit and will slowly ease sanctions.


Now I wouls assume they (Syria ) will now recognize the right of Israel to exist?

If so Iran is fucked here.
 
That’s how Neo Cons like to paint any criticism towards Israel. Instead of focusing on the fact Israel can be an asshole, they call you an anti-Semite. It is lazy and used for distraction.
Go look at members of Congress who fly Israeli flags outside their office. The House of Saud has followed Israel’s lead and figured out it’s easier just to buy Congress or the current President to get what you want out of America.
The House of Saud, hates Iran because of religious reasons and Israel is playing nice with the House of Saud because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So now America is getting dragged into a religious war that neither side is right and just in their reasoning for war.
I think Iran and Israel are assholes,actually I feel like almost every country in the Middle East is an asshole. If I stood in the middle of the Middle East, I would feel like Dark Helmet in Spaceballs, surrounded by assholes.
I know Israel can be an asshole. I am pro-Israel over Palestine only because of Hamas and Oct 7. But the left ignores Iran funds Terror around the world and has been firing missiles into Israel for years. A nuclear Iran could mean the end of Israel, so can anyone blame them? If I have to pick a side here, I am going with an ally vs a country that sings songs about death to America. And Israel isn't pulling the U.S into anything, they are whooping ass on their own.
 
We would have boots on the ground if Harris was President? What are you talking about? Just making shit up to try and justify Trump getting us directly involved in conflict in the ME after running on "No new wars!" and telling millions of people wars wouldn't have happened if he was President?

You think the MAGET crowd agrees with this video by the IDF? You think it riles them up to go to war?



Trump has completely fucked himself and Republicans for the next 10 years if he actively starts bombing Iran.


I never said Harris would have boots on the ground. I put a question mark because who knows what she would be doing. Probably a wine bender
 
I know Israel can be an asshole. I am pro-Israel over Palestine only because of Hamas and Oct 7. But the left ignores Iran funds Terror around the world and has been firing missiles into Israel for years. A nuclear Iran could mean the end of Israel, so can anyone blame them? If I have to pick a side here, I am going with an ally vs a country that sings songs about death to America. And Israel isn't pulling the U.S into anything, they are whooping ass on their own.
Iran is a weird country. They really fucked up here.
 
March 2025 Senate testimony as Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard :


“Iran is not building a nuclear weapon… Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized [it] since 2003—even though nuclearization discussion has increased and uranium stockpiles reached record highs.”



- No current active nuclear weapons program in Iran, according to U.S. intelligence.
- Uranium enrichment has increased, raising international concern.
- emphasized that while Iran is closer than ever in terms of fissile material capacity, there’s no direct evidence of intent or authorization to weaponize.

She advocated for:

- Diplomatic containment.
- Strong IAEA oversight.
- De-escalation between regional actors (notably Israel and Iran).
- A return to multilateral engagement, potentially resembling the JCPOA framework.

but, Netanyahu has better intel, so

 
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