International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[Hog-train]

You are twisting yourself into a pretzel here denying something as obvious as the sky being blue, my friend: Iran stopped nuclear proliferation while JCPOA was in effect.

He's an IDF shill and Netanyahu dicksucker. No matter what points you make, he's just going to gaslight you and make excuses. No point.

He was actually defending Netanyahu helping to fund Hamas for years as if that was a good thing.

I don't listen to Israeli analysts or state speakers when it comes to this. The chief report I watched was a CBS report, and the analyst was a woman, a former Pentagon official whose work focused on Israel, Iran, and that area.

CBS didn't say no Iranian civilians were killed so I don't know what your point is.

What do they stand to lose by asking? They've obliterated the top ranks of Iranian military command, key nuclear development personnel, and have wiped out a staggering amount of Iran's most critical infrastructure to a conflict...in the first three days. It's exactly how things went with Hamas and Hezbollah. We were told this wouldn't matter, and Hezbollah would fight forever. They didn't. They tapped out.

It's the same sort of highly precise, highly targeted blitzkrieg-by-air strategy we saw with those former foes. A famous adage in carpentry is "Measure twice, cut once." That seems to be what Israel has done. They plan long and meticulously, then when the moment comes, they eliminate the entire list of targets before their enemy even knows what's happening, or can scramble to adapt. These are the most sophisticated, comprehensive ambushes we've ever witnessed in warfare.

As an American who has seen how badly my own country has fucked this up over the past three decades...I'm a bit jelly.

1. They fucked us over and are trying to force the situation. It's as if South Korea just unilaterally attacked North Korea forcing the US to step in when we were already in talks with Kim Jong Un to de-nuclearize.

2. Hama only controls a tiny geographic area. Hezbollah is only concentrated in small parts of Lebanon in the suburbs of Beirut.

Meanwhile, Iran is a giant country with a population of 90 million with lots of mountains where they can hide military installations. It is not possible for Israel to take out all of Iran's military without the US's help. Nor do regime change without boots on the ground. And Israel does not have the ability to invade Iran with boots on the ground - only the US does.

See how popular it would be to the American populace to have US troops on the ground in Iran. We do not want it. Israel can fuck right off and fight their own wars.

 

[avenue94]

lol. You are so full of shit.

You can’t just do shitty things carte blanche and then say I upheld my end on this other thing. It’s a fuckin joke to suggest otherwise.

That's literally what the agreement was. If you want to stop terrorism or proxy wars, go negotiate a deal addressing that topic.

Otherwise, no international agreements would ever get done because every country would violate it instantly by sneezing or some other matter that isn't addressed in a deal.

Team Iran. Got it.

Team America, minus the puppet sex.

lol.

You are so full of shit. You don’t even believe it.

I surely do believe Israel has backed MEK and assassinated Iranian nuclear scientists on Iranian soil.

Or if you want to go further back, I know for a historical fact that Israel helped South Africa develop and manufacture nuclear bombs and armed South Africa's government in its campaigns of terror during apartheid.

And bad faith in every other facet.

And? Agreements address specific matters, not everything under the sun. Did you think the non-proliferation and nuclear weapon treaties the USSR and America signed during the cold war stopped either country from absolutely murdering the shit out of each other's proxies and citizens?

Iran paused while they fucked up shit everywhere else they could. And then when given the chance, started right up and hid their activities.

Right, so the JCPOA succeeded in its objective: arresting the development of Iranian nuclear weapons.

It’s comical you are pretending they have been good citizens dealt a bad hand. lol. Shameless team Iran.

Where have I said Iran has been good citizens dealt a bad hand?

 

[avenue94]

They plan long and meticulously, then when the moment comes, they eliminate the entire list of targets before their enemy even knows what's happening, or can scramble to adapt. These are the most sophisticated, comprehensive ambushes we've ever witnessed in warfare.

If they plan so long and methodically, why is Iran closer to developing a nuclear weapon today than it was during the JCPOA?

Carry on troll

I don't think you understand what trolling is if you think me asking you a question you can't answer and not partaking in av bets is trolling, gramps.

 

[HereticBD]

When did I say war should be fair. I've said that allowing Israel to wage an illegal war and target noncombatants

They're not non-combatants though, nor is this war "illegal", LOL. They're specialists working specifically to advance the war effort against their enemy. If anything, they have the biggest targets on their backs.

You're just mad because Iran got their nuts cut off, and they can't do the same to Israel.

"Due process"...for nuclear bomb engineers working to annihilate Israel...okay, bud. This ain't Sesame Street, bruh. Grow up.

 

[avenue94]

It's quite a twist, isn't it?

"These guys over here get to have the bomb, but fuck these guys"

It's arbitrary. If I were a country in the ME I'd want one.

Everyone knows American nuclear scientists work on nukes that deliver sunshine and rainbows and solve world hunger. We don't work on those bad nukes like Iran.

 

[HereticBD]

This is simply not true. You are saying any Nuclear scientist is fair game to be murdered by assassins anywhere, at anytime, simply because of their profession. That is false. They have to be working with the military in some type of official capacity.

Okay, well these ones were definitely working with the military, so, uhh, good point I guess.

 

[avenue94]

He's an IDF shill and Netanyahu dicksucker. No matter what points you make, he's just going to gaslight and make excuses. No point.

He was actually defending Netanyahu helping to fund Hamas for years as if that was a good thing.

I'm actually baffled as to what drives his devotion to such a partisan mindset. Whatever my views on this conflict, I'm genuinely sad to see what's happening to Tel Aviv, it was a beautiful city when I visited years ago.

They're not non-combatants though, nor is this war "illegal", LOL. They're specialists working specifically to advance the war effort against their enemy. If anything, they have the biggest targets on their backs.

Preventive wars are cut and dry illegal. No exceptions.

You're just mad because Iran got their nuts cut off, and they can't do the same to Israel.

Once again, more flailing for you. I've been clear, I'm concerned for the economic fallout and the fact that Israel acted so rashly and appears to have no endgame here besides "we'll destroy the nuclear facilities and Iran will never try again."

I'm also sad to see Israel continue to backslide away from democracy and give up core democratic values to preserve Bibi's rule.

 

[Islam Imamate]

He's an IDF shill and Netanyahu dicksucker. No matter what points you make, he's just going to gaslight and make excuses. No point.

He was actually defending Netanyahu helping to fund Hamas for years as if that was a good thing.

He refers to on duty IDF soldiers as "kids" and denies that there's any occupation because it's "disputed" territory, that should tell you how far to one side he is.

 

[avenue94]

He refers to on duty IDF soldiers as "kids" and denies that there's any occupation because it's "disputed" territory, that should tell you how far to one side he is.

It's why I'm so curious. If you don't have a personal or heritage tie to the stance, we're talking levels of partisan hackery than would make our Canadian Magaheads look moderate.

 

[b34stmode]

They're not non-combatants though, nor is this war "illegal", LOL. They're specialists working specifically to advance the war effort against their enemy. If anything, they have the biggest targets on their backs.

You're just mad because Iran got their nuts cut off, and they can't do the same to Israel.

"Due process"...for nuclear bomb engineers working to annihilate Israel...okay, bud. This ain't Sesame Street, bruh. Grow up.

You are seriously arguing it’s “legal” for any Country to murder Nuclear Scientist from another Country anytime, anywhere, because they are valid military targets? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while bruh. Do you have any idea what international law is? Sovereignty? Good lord man, how far is Israel currently down your throat?

 

[Crazy Source]

Everyone knows American nuclear scientists work on nukes that deliver sunshine and rainbows and solve world hunger. We don't work on those bad nukes like Iran.

Trillion dollars to build bombs but my mom can't get a decent hospital bed.

 

[Hog-train]

I'm actually baffled as to what drives his devotion to such a partisan mindset. Whatever my views on this conflict, I'm genuinely sad to see what's happening to Tel Aviv, it was a beautiful city when I visited years ago.

Very easy explanation. He's Jewish and a Zionist.

Key point - "and a Zionist." I'm not saying it's just because he's Jewish. Many Jews are actually the chief critical opponents of Israel's actions and many Jewish students were organizers of the college protests against the IDF.

 

[Chules]

 

[Hog-train]

Double post.

 

[HereticBD]

I'm actually baffled as to what drives his devotion to such a partisan mindset. Whatever my views on this conflict, I'm genuinely sad to see what's happening to Tel Aviv, it was a beautiful city when I visited years ago.

And it will still be fine after all this.

Preventive wars are cut and dry illegal. No exceptions.

That's a nice opinion. One that doesn't come from a little nation surrounded by enemies trying to build a nuclear bomb to annihilate them all.

Self preservation is a thing. Israel is not gonna let their enemies develop a nuclear bomb if they can stop it. They can stop it.

Once again, more flailing for you. I've been clear, I'm concerned for the economic fallout

No you're not, and you're not fooling anyone. You're mad that Israel is winning again. Although I'm sure the footage of a few Iranian missiles getting through the Iron Dome gave you a half chub.

 

[San Marino]

Meh. The Jews lost their claim to the holy land and brotherhood when they killed Christ.

Yeah. The two go hand-in-hand. I don't think so.
Well, Christ came back to life did he not? Does that mean that the Jews can claim part of Palestine?

 

[HereticBD]

You are seriously arguing it’s “legal” for any Country to murder Nuclear Scientist from another Country anytime, anywhere, because they are valid military targets? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while bruh. Do you have any idea what international law is? Sovereignty? Good lord man, how far is Israel currently down your throat?

Anytime, anywhere? Depends on the scenario, now doesn't it? Iran wants to build nuclear bombs to annihilate Israel with(and God knows what else). That's the scenario. Bye bye, nuclear scientists. You should be thanking them from taking that power away from a bunch of crazy religious extremists that want YOU dead, as much as they want Israel dead.

Anyways, I see you guys are already at the crying stage. Good work Israel.

 

[b34stmode]

Okay, well these ones were definitely working with the military, so, uhh, good point I guess.

According to who?

 

[HereticBD]

According to who?

LOL, are you fucking serious right now?

 

[avenue94]

Very easy explanation. He's Jewish and a Zionist.

Well I've never asked or known either way lol (aside from the Zionist beliefs part, which doesn't necessarily mean Jewish)

And it will still be fine after all this.

Eventually sure, but people are dying and destruction is happening.

That's a nice opinion. One that doesn't come from a little nation surrounded by enemies trying to build a nuclear bomb to annihilate them all.

It's not my opinion, that is international law.

Self preservation is a thing. Israel is not gonna let their enemies develop a nuclear bomb if they can stop it. They can stop it.

They odds are that in the long term they can't without diplomatic concessions. Of all the instances of successful non-proliferation of countries far into development, the only successful instances are ones which were resolved through negotiation, not trying to kill and destroy nuclear development.

No you're not, and you're not fooling anyone. You're mad that Israel is winning again. Although I'm sure the footage of a few Iranian missiles getting through the Iron Dome gave you a half chub.

That's funny. Because my brain is telling me that economic disruption to such a sensitive region is bad for the US, and we're already starting to see higher prices.

But I guess your hallucination is reality.

And jesus your reading comprehension is pitiful. I just posted that I am sad to see what's happening to a city I'm quite fond of. And then you replied to it. And then now you're claiming I'm happy to see it destroyed.

Make up your mind, dude.