News Islam Makhachev becomes #1 P4P

[Conan the K-9]

in terms of a real GOAT status, or real best champion talk, suspense is not even a point. it's all about how many defenses against other ranked opponents in your division, how many times you can do that, in dominating fashion. the facts are islam has 0 title defenses against his own division. his last win was a 10 day notice featherweight fighter. these are laughable stats in terms of GOAT talk.

Haha, so true!
That fool will probably retire soon and claim to be the best fighter in the world.

 

[Sean Rhino]

0 LW title defenses, 0 ranked LW title defenses, he beat Oliveiera for the belt. LOL. goat, #1, khabib-like sayings should all take this into account. dude has 0 legitimate title defenses. that is fucking crazy.

Yes, let's criticize Makhachev, who signed up and showed up for the second Oliveira title defense fight.

gamrot? dude trained, was the backup, is ranked and ready..... the blame is on islam for accepting short notice volk, and for UFC for even offering that in the first place.

Makhachev would definitely not have been criticized for beating another short-notice lightweight, just like the time when dos Anjos pulled out, and Hooker stepped in on short notice.

 

[Joinho10]

Haha, so true!
That fool will probably retire soon and claim to be the best fighter in the world.

How is Islam a fool now?

 

[humdizzle]

makes sense

he would probably be the betting favorite over most WWs and at worst it would be even money with him vs colby or leon.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Why are you mentioning "GOAT status"? GOAT & P4P are separate discussions.

shouldn't title defenses in your own division come into both of those? thats why

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Haha, so true!
That fool will probably retire soon and claim to be the best fighter in the world.

they really trying to sell a new GOAT / new P4P #1 with a dude who has 0 title defenses, over champions with multiple title defenses, against all the killers, even going up in weight class and getting the belt. looks like islam doesn't sell as well.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Yes, let's criticize Makhachev, who signed up and showed up for the second Oliveira title defense fight.



Makhachev would definitely not have been criticized for beating another short-notice lightweight, just like the time when dos Anjos pulled out, and Hooker stepped in on short notice.

he should have taken the fight against gamrot, not the easier 10 day notice match up. and that's also UFCs fault for even offering it in the first place. why even have a back up? UFC should have immediately forced islam to fight the back up. but that doesnt sell compared to volk.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

Imagine caring about UFC fake rankings.

Now imagine caring about even faker UFC p4p rankings lol.

Do you guys know who votes for this? Randoms. It’s like referencing media scores for fights lol.

Good for Islam though.

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

he should have taken the fight against gamrot, not the easier 10 day notice match up. and that's also UFCs fault for even offering it in the first place. why even have a back up? UFC should have immediately forced islam to fight the back up. but that doesnt sell compared to volk.

UFC is a circus not a sports league

 

[Sean Rhino]

he should have taken the fight against gamrot, not the easier 10 day notice match up. and that's also UFCs fault for even offering it in the first place. why even have a back up? UFC should have immediately forced islam to fight the back up. but that doesnt sell compared to volk.

Yeah, he should've taken the Gamrot fight so Makhachev would've received the criticism of fighting another short-notice lightweight who's not in the top 5, fought recently, and has all of his top wins being controversial and definitely not deserving of a title fight.

It's so predictable at this point.

 

[markg171]

Ounce of pride lol. The irony coming from a Conor fan.

The actual irony is bringing up Conor who's never been higher than P4P #2 when he became the first fighter in UFC history to simultaneously hold 2 belts across weight classes, coming off of a further win at WW on top of that in between. You know, actually doing P4P stuff in real life by having wins in 3 weight classes and 2 titles.

The guy ahead of him for #1 at the time? Mighty Mouse who was coming off his 8th title defence, a 1st round KO over Cejudo. And it was only Mighty Mouse because Jon was suspended at the time.

Meanwhile Islam's getting it for having 1 top 5 win in his entire career and wins over a the guy from the weight class below him, one on short notice, while Jon Jones exists, still hasn't lost, and is a dual weight champ.

Yeah, it is pretty embarrassing to go around cheering about getting to be #1 only when Jon isn't around. 7 years later and it's still happening, and guys like Conor and Mighty Mouse had a hell of a lot better claim at the time than Islam does today.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

UFC is a circus not a sports league

correct, this is the only take

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Yeah, he should've taken the Gamrot fight so Makhachev would've received the criticism of fighting another short-notice lightweight who's not in the top 5, fought recently, and has all of his top wins being controversial and definitely not deserving of a title fight.

It's so predictable at this point.

0 title defenses, 0 defenses against ranked LW fighters, 2 defenses, one of which a dude didn't even train for. garbage ass justifications for any talk of GOAT or P4P #1 status, when there are champions on that list who have actually defended in their own weight classes.

 

[old school 2]

gamrot?

Charles keeps bowing out of fights, I think last time it was to get a pedicure.

 

[Sean Rhino]

0 title defenses, 0 defenses against ranked LW fighters, 2 defenses, one of which a dude didn't even train for. garbage ass justifications for any talk of GOAT or P4P #1 status, when there are champions on that list who have actually defended in their own weight classes.

You already posted that here:

0 LW title defenses, 0 ranked LW title defenses, he beat Oliveiera for the belt. LOL. goat, #1, khabib-like sayings should all take this into account. dude has 0 legitimate title defenses. that is fucking crazy.

There's no need to continuously post the same sentences like an annoying bot.

Either way, criticizing Makhachev for signing up and showing up to defend his lightweight belt against a lightweight is silly. When Oliveira pulled out, Makhachev was forced into a situation where whatever decision he made would have led to criticism.

 

[legedema]

well deserved

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

Charles keeps bowing out of fights, I think last time it was to get a pedicure.

which changes nothing as gamrot was the back up

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

You already posted that here:



There's no need to continuously post the same sentences like an annoying bot.

Either way, criticizing Makhachev for signing up and showing up to defend his lightweight belt against a lightweight is silly. When Oliveira pulled out, Makhachev was forced into a situation where whatever decision he made would have led to criticism.

garbage take. islam/ufc could have went the gamrot way, which would have been the only correct way. instead they chose to sell PPVs, drum up fake interest, over a 10 day notice short fight. makchaev could have put his foot down, actually defended against a LW fighter for once, or the UFC could have made that decision for them. instead they opted for money. 0 title defenses against a ranked LW fighter. 0 defenses. Yet he's ranked higher against champions with actual defenses. Garbage ass hype, wolf marketing, and you fell for it.

 

[Sean Rhino]

garbage take. islam/ufc could have went the gamrot way, which would have been the only correct way. instead they chose to sell PPVs, drum up fake interest, over a 10 day notice short fight.

Your lack of understanding that Makhachev would still have been unfairly criticized if he took the Gamrot fight is garbage.

0 title defenses against a ranked LW fighter. 0 defenses.

It's like arguing with a wall.

 

[Sincere Guy]

@Killer Kadoogan combos are nice, just here to appreciate the true talk. Good to see people are already aware of the wolf tickets IVlam sells lol.

There's no need to continuously post the same sentences like an annoying bot.

And again:

0 LW title defenses, 0 ranked LW title defenses, he beat Oliveiera for the belt. LOL. goat, #1, khabib-like sayings should all take this into account. dude has 0 legitimate title defenses. that is fucking crazy.

And why? Only because that's the obvious thing that needs to be said. I know you and IVlam fanatics don't bear reality, but reality in cases like that is required. Stop living in a dreamland where Makhachev can beat even HW and etc. Just stop. "Blah blah blah shoulda coulda woulda"... The guy seems a good fighter, so how about starting defending the belt against top 5 LWs outside Abu Dhubious? That's what he needs to do. 2 title defenses against a FW for God's sake, shouldn't even count as a title defense in the first place.

No more FWs, no more wolf tickets. I'm awaiting for him to have a better resume than Charles AT LEAST, because right now he is far away from having the same. Everyone is just tired of nonsense talking all the time. I'm sure Abdulmanap would love to see him up there, but not like that. Definitely not like that.