Islam Gets Destroyed at 170 | Agreed or Disagreed?

[Aurelian]

Islam could beat some guys at 170 but no I don't think he'd beat Leon. Leon is a superb fighter. Leon could probably beat some guys at 185.

 

[PurpleStorm]

Disagree,

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

He'd do better than most LW. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a second belt. I also wouldn't bet on it. It's definitely not in his favor.

 

[RichardHarrow]

The fighters know...

Holland gained a fan in me with this response. Very honest and real of him.

 

[fortheo]

No but he didn't have the greatest weight cut since they have less time to rehydrate over in Australia I believe. People go overboard with their criticism of his performance in that fight, Islam was doing great until those final few minutes where Volk finished stronger. Wasn't like he got 10-8'd or anything lol.

Like others have said, Islam with a minimal weight cut for a WW fight would be a very different beast.

People go overboard with their excuses for fights islam won, too. I mean, you've given 2 on the first page alone lol.

Anyways, islam has a real shot at WW, but I don't think he'd be the favorite. He could, and maybe should, just try to make more crazy records at LW

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Islam will do great at Welterweight... people don't realize how big he really is.

Imagine him not having to cut so much weight to make welterweight - he's gonna be a beast in that division.

why did he spend his whole UFC career at LW then?

 

[HNIC215]

why did he spend his whole UFC career at LW then?

Why you asking me? DM Islam

 

[anuscakes]

I can see him having success against everyone in the top 10, he can win the belt for sure. There's no one he cant out grapple or out strike.

 

[Wreckless]

All I see are tears. U asked why Islam didn't wreck Volk in first fight. How tf are you going to ask a question, then when it receives a legitimate medical and scientific answer you're going to call that excuses? Then don't fucking ask.

Islam outstruck Volk, Charles, and DP. All likely viewed as top 15 strikers in the UFC. He did so on merit but also the strength of his grappling and takedowns. It's a fact. Quit crying.

To come in here and pretend like Leon's going to shit on him when Islam keeps out-striking elite strikers is dumb. You may be right on the outcome. But as I said before, it will not be on the strength of anything you've posted in this thread.

How are you gonna come here and ask someone to wipe their tears, then proceed to cry like a baby in defense of Islam.

My personal opinion is Islam gets dominated by Edwards. I asked people if they agreed or not, obviously you don't. No need to get upset about it.

I never asked why Islam didn't wreck Volk in the first fight. Everyone knows the reason. It's because Islam isn't as great as you make him out to be. And also because Volk is an amazing fighter.

That weightcut excuse is embarrassing.

Also if Islam outstruck Volk or DP it's not because he's a better striker, it's because of the takedown threat. Make no mistake he likely gets the breaks beaten off of him in a pure striking match.

 

[UFConFOX]

How are you gonna come here and ask someone to wipe their tears, then proceed to cry like a baby in defense of Islam.

My personal opinion is Islam gets dominated by Edwards. I asked people if they agreed or not, obviously you don't. No need to get upset about it.

I never asked why Islam didn't wreck Volk in the first fight. Everyone knows the reason. It's because Islam isn't as great as you make him out to be. And also because Volk is an amazing fighter.

That weightcut excuse is embarrassing.

Also if Islam outstruck Volk or DP it's not because he's a better striker, it's because of the takedown threat. Make no mistake he likely gets the breaks beaten off of him in a pure striking match.

You don't even know if I agree or don't. Your premise is dumb enough that It's not worth entertaining. What I called you out on is not the premise (others beat me to it) but the fact people took the time to sincerely answer your question and you came out calling it excuses lolol.

You're crying that "Islam isn't as great as you make him out to be.." Again, I didn't do that. But didn't stop you from crying.

What I did was tell you that he outstruck 3 top 15 UFC strikers across 4 fights. That's a fact. To suggest otherwise is crying.

There is no excuse needed for someone to win 4-1, 4-1, and 3-2 against the guy that was #1 P4P for 2 years and undefeated for 10 years. So what is it you are asking really? What you want is for someone to agree with you that b/c he didn't 5-0 the #1 p4p guy in the world that Leon will smoke him.

Find some 3 year olds and offer em some candy b/c your shit is fucking child-like and embarassing.

 

[Wreckless]

Edwards went 5 rounds woth lightweights RDA, Diaz and cowboy, what do you think of it, TS?

Good point. Tbf those fights weren't really close. Besides that one moment Diaz caught him towards the end.

I also think Edwards has that champ confidence now with big wins over Usman and Colby he's reached his prime.

We'll see if this fight ever happens. There's a large gap between 155 and 170. Edwards isn't a small WW and will be much harder to take down.

 

[Wreckless]

You don't even know if I agree or don't. Your premise is dumb enough that It's not worth entertaining. What I called you out on is not the premise (others beat me to it) but the fact people took the time to sincerely answer your question and you came out calling it excuses lolol.

You're crying that "Islam isn't as great as you make him out to be.." Again, I didn't do that. But didn't stop you from crying.

What I did was tell you that he outstruck 3 top 15 UFC strikers across 4 fights. That's a fact. To suggest otherwise is crying.

There is no excuse needed for someone to win 4-1, 4-1, and 3-2 against the guy that was #1 P4P for 2 years and undefeated for 10 years. So what is it you are asking really? What you want is for someone to agree with you that b/c he didn't 5-0 the #1 p4p guy in the world that Leon will smoke him.

Find some 3 year olds and offer em some candy b/c your shit is fucking child-like and embarassing.

Ur so mad lol

The only reason he outstruck them is because of the threat of the takedown. This is nothing new and something you would know if you had been watching MMA longer than 6 months.

I don't have anything against people who disagree with my take. That's why I asked the question. What I don't agree with is using the weight cut as an excuse for the first fight being close.

 

[AdamWarlock]

masvidal had success at ww and he's half the fighter islam is

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

No but he didn't have the greatest weight cut since they have less time to rehydrate over in Australia I believe. People go overboard with their criticism of his performance in that fight, Islam was doing great until those final few minutes where Volk finished stronger. Wasn't like he got 10-8'd or anything lol.

Like others have said, Islam with a minimal weight cut for a WW fight would be a very different beast.

Didn't have the greatest weight cut but was able to rehydrate 3L with an IV

Reminder Ali tried to immediately delete this tweet lmao

 

[Goatenstein]

Not to take anything away from the guys that he beat but going to war with a 35 year old Poirier who's about to retire and going 5 rounds against a FW in a fight that he arguably lost (1st Volk fight) isn't going to cut it at WW.

Respect to Islam for wanting to move up and challenge for a 2nd belt, something Khabib never had the desire to do even though he was much more dominant than Islam. Khabib also knew that it's a different game at WW.

Poirier said it himself recently that he would not move to WW after years of hinting a possible move. He said he trains with some of those guys in the gym and they're just way bigger.

Edwards is in his absolute prime right now and dispatched of Colby with ease. Was able to easily stuff Usman's takedown in their last fight. He has amazing striking.

Islam is biting off more than he can chew and gets destroyed in a fight against Edwards imho

Sounds like a scared Leon fanboy.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

masvidal had success at ww and he's half the fighter islam is

He's also twice the size of Islam now lol.
The Burger King of Miami

 

[MrFreeze]

Islam is a class above the majority of fighters on the roster. Some taller, lankier WW could be very awkward for him, but his striking and striking defence is very underrated. His cage grappling is elite and his power and tank will be better at WW.

 

[svmr_db]

I mean sure, if you're gonna use every excuse in the book anyone can make those wins look more dominant than they were lol.

Saying he will get destroyed was an exagerration on my part but I don't think he has anything for Edwards.

Belal and Shavkat are two other opponents I would favor over Islam in a fight.

Man you can't explain anything these days without it being labeled an "excuse" lol.

Same way we can all say Khabib underperformed compared to expectations vs Al Iaquinta right? Except he took that fight on less than 48 hrs notice & was preparing for a different opponent. Not an excuse, just an explanation of the facts of the matter to bring that up.

 

[UFConFOX]

Ur so mad lol

The only reason he outstruck them is because of the threat of the takedown. This is nothing new and something you would know if you had been watching MMA longer than 6 months.

I don't have anything against people who disagree with my take. That's why I asked the question. What I don't agree with is using the weight cut as an excuse for the first fight being close.

Glad you agree with me. Islam outstruck them. Threat of takedown indeed. You could just have agreed from the beginning instead of let your pad leak all over the forum. At least the blood covered up your tears. See below. You're welcome for the intro on how MMA striking works, noob.

 

[IloveTHIS]

I think Islam has a good 50/50 shot against anyone in the division but it could go life and death. He certainly won't be a defending champion there