Social Is "Woke" going too far?

[fingercuffs]

Tim Burton is under attack for not having diversity. They even pointed out a cartoon character in Nightmare Before Christmas named Oogie Boogie who is a villain. They are mad because he is voiced by a black actor, and name is apparently racist. Also that he wears something they say resembles a Klan hood. Which doesn't make sense, but hey the left rarely do amirite?
https://www.businessinsider.com/nightmare-befbut hey, thore-christmas-oogie-boogie-racist-2020-12

How about the Lord of the Rings where the left feel the Orcs represent blacks? Tons of articles. Same with the left bitching about Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars. How about the backlash with toxic masculinity? This whole girl power and LBGTQ push is FOR the left BECAUSE they bitch.

Honestly, you have terrible takes and are just like a little kid who throws rocks and runs away.
The right would complain about Ripley today? GTFOH.....did they complain about the strong female leads in Hunger Games? Did they complain about Wonder Woman? How about Wandavision? Uma Thurman in Kill Bill? Beckinsdale in Underworld? Theron in Fury Road? NO, people bitch when shit needs to be bitched about because it sucks. People like you are just dishonest party suckers.

This really made me laugh. Look her up before assuming she's hispanic, dolt.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/wicked-ariana-grande-maga-host-b2654847.html

 

[ssBaldy]

I just came back from a friends place. Topic of choice today was "woke" movies. Now even though I agreed with much of what was said, I began to think to myself....

What would make people happy when it came to roles that people played?

For example. The movie Wicked came out with a pretty diverse cast. I believe one of the witches is portrayed by a person of color who is also lesbian. The hate was strong. Now....even though I would probably never watch this, I began to question some of the backlash. I mean, shes playing a green witch...the supposed wicked one no less. So...wtf is the big deal? Id kinda understand if the lesbian black chick was playing the good witch...the right would lose their minds. This however left me scratching my head.

It seems nowadays, anytime a person of color, lgbtq, a woman or God forbid, all of the above gets a lead role, its woke. Wtf defines woke now? Its confusing. I thought it was people that specifically tried to make films confronting certain social issues. Could be a movie about a female black detective....woke.

Some of it I get it....i dont want the message smeared in my face with political or social commentary. Meanwhile, im left scratching my head sometimes thinking why people are so pissed at a specific movie.

Odd times.

I won't speak for others but I personally had an overdose of woke shit. Disney is the most to blame here with their cold blooded murder of Star Wars, closely followed by BBC with their black "historical figures" in medieval Europe.
I still remember how my ass burned after Star Wars: Solo and the "antagonist" reveal.
-"Even though I killed half your crew and tried to kill you a minute ago, I am a POC gurrrl with freckles, gimme 60 billion credits, its for a good cause, pinky promise!"
-"OK".
Hollow Crown having black archbishops in 15th century England was also a spit in the face of anyone with a tiny bit of knowledge and more than 3 live braincells.
I got so butthurt with talentless shit like that, that I am no longer able to tolerate wokeness even in small doses.

Also, the wokeness problem for me goes hand in hand with the endless waves of remakes. Keep your untalented hands off the classic beloved stories! Especially if you want to change half the characters to black, asian, gay, trans, disabled or whatever is hot fashion now. I don't mind POC actors at all, for example I would be glad to watch a good movie based on African mythology, but I will not watch a movie about a black king Arthur, GTFO with that shit.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Seems just fine to me 7.2/10 on IMDb, ~84-94% audience score google/rottentomatoes.

Nobody is buying that when the trailer dropped, the conservative outrage was over anything other than the minority casting of Ariel

Why you list the audience score but not the critic score lmao

 

[Helden]

Why you list the audience score but not the critic score lmao

I thought critic scores were all bad and audience is the only true measure? Isnt that what you right wing idiots kept saying? Pick one, cause you can't keep saying critic scores don't matter, only audience does and then switch when the "Ahmergerhg WOKE" movie gets a high audience score.

66% critic score on rotten tomatoes is decent

 

[Lycandroid]

I thought critic scores were all bad and audience is the only true measure? Isnt that what you right wing idiots kept saying? Pick one, cause you can't keep saying critic scores don't matter, only audience does and then switch when the "Ahmergerhg WOKE" movie gets a high audience score.

66% critic score on rotten tomatoes is decent

i think its more that critics tend to be pretentious assholes that are out of touch with what most people want to watch

 

[SuperAlly]

Tim Burton is under attack for not having diversity. They even pointed out a cartoon character in Nightmare Before Christmas named Oogie Boogie who is a villain. They are mad because he is voiced by a black actor, and name is apparently racist. Also that he wears something they say resembles a Klan hood. Which doesn't make sense, but hey the left rarely do amirite?
https://www.businessinsider.com/nightmare-befbut hey, thore-christmas-oogie-boogie-racist-2020-12

How about the Lord of the Rings where the left feel the Orcs represent blacks? Tons of articles. Same with the left bitching about Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars. How about the backlash with toxic masculinity? This whole girl power and LBGTQ push is FOR the left BECAUSE they bitch.

Honestly, you have terrible takes and are just like a little kid who throws rocks and runs away.
The right would complain about Ripley today? GTFOH.....did they complain about the strong female leads in Hunger Games? Did they complain about Wonder Woman? How about Wandavision? Uma Thurman in Kill Bill? Beckinsdale in Underworld? Theron in Fury Road? NO, people bitch when shit needs to be bitched about because it sucks. People like you are just dishonest party suckers.

Atomic Blonde is a fantastic movie with a good female lead who is a bad ass

 

[SuperAlly]

Was an above average action movie, which could is a lot more than could be said of most of the Predator series.

It was very average. But because the rest have been largely terrible it got elevated. We’ve been desperate for a good Predator movie for a long time

It’s average

 

[SuperAlly]

I won't speak for others but I personally had an overdose of woke shit. Disney is the most to blame here with their cold blooded murder of Star Wars, closely followed by BBC with their black "historical figures" in medieval Europe.
I still remember how my ass burned after Star Wars: Solo and the "antagonist" reveal.
-"Even though I killed half your crew and tried to kill you a minute ago, I am a POC gurrrl with freckles, gimme 60 billion credits, its for a good cause, pinky promise!"
-"OK".
Hollow Crown having black archbishops in 15th century England was also a spit in the face of anyone with a tiny bit of knowledge and more than 3 live braincells.
I got so butthurt with talentless shit like that, that I am no longer able to tolerate wokeness even in small doses.

Also, the wokeness problem for me goes hand in hand with the endless waves of remakes. Keep your untalented hands off the classic beloved stories! Especially if you want to change half the characters to black, asian, gay, trans, disabled or whatever is hot fashion now. I don't mind POC actors at all, for example I would be glad to watch a good movie based on African mythology, but I will not watch a movie about a black king Arthur, GTFO with that shit.

City of God, great movie
Kill Boksoon - good fun action movie
Train to Busan, awesome
Infernal Affairs absolutely fantastic
Old boy exceptional

Their racism claims are laughably lacking in credibility

 

[SuperAlly]

i think its more that critics tend to be pretentious assholes that are out of touch with what most people want to watch

Sadly for the last few years if critics like it, it’s probably shit. If they hate it, it’s probably great

 

[SummerStriker]

Woke has always just been whatever people I don't like do. Racists aren't good at categorizing things correctly, so they thought it also meant black people. So now, anything with a non white male is woke. It isn't different. It's just that language has decayed enough for racism to be out in the open on accident.

 

[Mack Yancy]

Everybody knows that Jesus is African-American

Well he lived a hell of a lot closer to Africa than America...

If he was walking around today, you, @nhbbear and @GearSolidMetal accuse him of running a grooming gang in the UK.

 

[Mack Yancy]

The thing with ultra progressives is that they HAVE to keep being seen to "progress" or else they appear conservative. So naturally things just get weirder and weirder until they run out of goodwill.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

If he was walking around today, you, @nhbbear and @GearSolidMetal accuse him of running a grooming gang in the UK.

Why would Jesus, a jew from Israel, immigrate to UK, which is filled with Islamists?

Jesus was destined to be crucified, not stabbed.

 

[I Am Legion]

You are literally citing examples from decades ago before this anti-woke incel movement started.

Both have been in the news recently. How about the talk of making James Bond less of a womanizer? Star Wars not having gay representation? All recent. What about ALL the things in culture you lefties bitch about--Aunt Jemima Syrup, Uncle Bens Rice, Land of Lakes Butter. All of them have people suing to change it back because the families saw it as endearment....it was white lefties that thought they were issues.
You say it is the right complaining about movies, but it is fans, not the right. Some go overboard but with the shit that has been put out, I am not surprised at backlash. The Marvels, Madame Web, The Acolyte, Rings of Power, The Sandman......really DEI garbage.

 

[I Am Legion]

I've seen plenty of Karen videos with women of many races. But good job trying to race bait, pumpkin.

To be fair, the webz are now differentiating. There are Karens---middle aged white ladies with that Midwest choppy haircut. But we also have Shaniquas which is a subgenre of Karen but a whole other thing....

 

[I Am Legion]

Lol you are going to tell me that is the equivalent of the poo flinging the right engaging in over a minority playing the little mermaid?
Or this shit:

GTFO with this dishonest bullshit

Dishonest? That is you toolbox. You want to act like there is no issue because it fits your agenda, and it IS an agenda. No adult gives a fuck about the Little Mermaid movie. What they are sick of is the DEI crap, the absurdity of purposely making a little red head white girl mermaid black.....JUST to make her black. They didn't hire the best person for the job, they set out to plug in a black girl for diversity. The movie lost hundreds of millions because of it, that is not debatable. It was absurd and insulting. I will never see it, but there will be backlash when people do things just for the sake of DEI. They could have just as easily created a new character....but no, lazy DEI took over.
As for Bud light, don't be stupid. You aren't winning that argument. That was the most retarded decision made by a 26-year-old woke female that lost her job over it. Cost her boss his job, and the beer never recovered. They insulted their customer base, and hired a freak to promote a beer that trans people would never drink anyway. Total fucktard move. Public had enough on both sides and that beer is finished.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Next thing ya know an honest hard working white guy won't be able to get a job playing injun in a western...

Super edgy.

 

[RoastBeast]

Talk to the bloke who said I was using a racist term, I didn't bring this up.

I'm not offended or anything. I don't give a shit. Just know that Karen is basically a racist and sexist term used for bitchy white women. The only reason why the world is okay with it is because left wingers are good with racism against white people and right wingers just don't give a shit.

 

[SuperAlly]

Well he lived a hell of a lot closer to Africa than America...

If he was walking around today, you, @nhbbear and @GearSolidMetal accuse him of running a grooming gang in the UK.

Post shows what a disgusting piece of shit you are yancy

 

[UberHere]

You are literally citing examples from decades ago before this anti-woke incel movement started.

Bye