Elections Is Tulsi Gabbard a Russian asset?

Is Tulsi Gabbard Putin's Manchurian Candidate?

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Best platitude to have the cake and eat it too.

I don't understand what you're trying to say. But the idea would be to boost Gabbard to try to saddle us with four more years of Trump (assuming Congress doesn't do the right thing), which I think most of us can admit would be tremendously harmful to the country. But, as I said, at this point, it is very much looking like an effort that could backfire. Americans are lucky that our enemies are morons.
 
I can quote a bunch of experts that will confirm our presence there is absolutely not for regime change.

I am deferring to multiple experts that have reported and/or commented/written that our presence there was not a regime change.

That doesn't qualify as a "regime change war". "Assad must go" isn't a policy and putting pressure on him to step down via non-violent means does not qualify as a war.

Timber Sycamore


Timber Sycamore was a classified weapons supply and training program run by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and supported by some Arab intelligence services, such as the security service in Saudi Arabia. Launched in 2012 or 2013, it supplied money, weaponry and training to rebel forces fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the Syrian Civil War. According to US officials, the program was run by the CIA's Special Activities Division [6] has trained thousands of rebels.[7][8] President Barack Obama secretly authorized the CIA to begin arming Syria’s embattled rebels in 2013.[9]

The program's existence was suspected after the US Federal Business Opportunities website publicly solicited contract bids to ship tons of weaponry from Eastern Europe to Taşucu, Turkey and Aqaba, Jordan.[10] One unintended consequence of the program has been a flood of US weapons including assault rifles, mortars and rocket-propelled grenades into Middle East's black market.

In July 2017, US officials stated that Timber Sycamore would be phased out, with funds possibly redirected to fighting the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), or to offering rebel forces defensive capabilities.[11][12][13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore
 
Remember a couple days ago when Tulsi said (ridiculously) that this election was between her and Hillary? This is what you're being sucked into. Her outrageously wrong statement is actually working on these people.

She said the primary was between her and Hillary. Try to be honest, I know it's hard for you.
 
I don't understand what you're trying to say. But the idea would be to boost Gabbard to try to saddle us with four more years of Trump (assuming Congress doesn't do the right thing), which I think most of us can admit would be tremendously harmful to the country. But, as I said, at this point, it is very much looking like an effort that could backfire. Americans are lucky that our enemies are morons.

Explain this logic

1. Gabbard is a diet Republican beloved by the right
2. Gabbard is less likely than a progressive fruitcake like Warren to take votes from Trump
 
Explain this logic

1. Gabbard is a diet Republican beloved by the right
2. Gabbard is less likely than a progressive fruitcake like Warren to take votes from Trump

I don't know. Sounds dumb. On policy, Gabbard is right in the middle of the Democratic Party (about half of Congressional Dems have a voting record to her right and half have one to her left). I've said in this thread that I think that Trump and Russia have, typically, miscalcuated, and at this point, Gabbard is more likely to take votes from Trump than the Democratic nominee, which is why unless they've boosted her ego too much to get it, she won't run third party.
 
I don't know. Sounds dumb. On policy, Gabbard is right in the middle of the Democratic Party (about half of Congressional Dems have a voting record to her right and half have one to her left). I've said in this thread that I think that Trump and Russia have, typically, miscalcuated, and at this point, Gabbard is more likely to take votes from Trump than the Democratic nominee, which is why unless they've boosted her ego too much to get it, she won't run third party.

She wasn't ever going to run third party in the first place.

I'm confused though, you didn't vote 'yes' in the poll but you're posting in here as if you did... Is that so when it turns out to be false you won't have to defend voting yes and can instead do your usual slippery shit and pretend you weren't saying yes in this thread?
 
Tulsi supports Assad and the strategy of aligning with Russia to better deal with the threat of muslim extremism.

In that way she is an "asset" to Russia, but she's also right.
 
She wasn't ever going to run third party in the first place.

I'm confused though, you didn't vote 'yes' in the poll but you're posting in here as if you did... Is that so when it turns out to be false you won't have to defend voting yes and can instead do your usual slippery shit and pretend you weren't saying yes in this thread?

You sound crazy here. I took you off ignore to read the thread and didn't care about the poll, but I see the phrasing of it is silly. I'd actually like to see how it would go if you made it line up with Clinton's comments. "Is it true that RT and Russian Twitterbots are trying to boost Gabbard's candidacy in order to help Trump?" Just as a way to see who would be willing to deny reality out of partisanship.
 
You sound crazy here. I took you off ignore to read the thread and didn't care about the poll, but I see the phrasing of it is silly. I'd actually like to see how it would go if you made it line up with Clinton's comments. "Is it true that RT and Russian Twitterbots are trying to boost Gabbard's candidacy in order to help Trump?" Just as a way to see who would be willing to deny reality out of partisanship.

I just think it's funny what you've outlined here.

Tulis IS a plant, but she's a bad choice because Trump us stupid.

And she WAS going to run as a third party to split the vote but now she isn't going to.

So you get to back Hillary and her ludicrous accusations, but never have to worry about any accountability for it.

Just more cowardly nonsense.

Put me back on ignore, you're getting your loser stink all over my popular thread.
 
I just think it's funny what you've outlined here.

Tulis IS a plant, but she's a bad choice because Trump us stupid.

And she WAS going to run as a third party to split the vote but now she isn't going to.

I don't think you understand the discussion.

So you get to back Hillary and her ludicrous accusations, but never have to worry about any accountability for it.

Just more cowardly nonsense.

Put me back on ignore, you're getting your loser stink all over my popular thread.

So the brave thing to do would be to, what, pretend that Gabbard hasn't been promoted on RT and by Russian bots?
 
She said the primary was between her and Hillary. Try to be honest, I know it's hard for you.
What's not to understand? Tulsi isn't even a contender in the primary, and Hillary isn't running. Democratic voters have moved past Hillary and care about the current candidates. So Tulsi's statement there is just wildly narcissistic and delusional.
 
What's not to understand? Tulsi isn't even a contender in the primary, and Hillary isn't running. Democratic voters have moved past Hillary and care about the current candidates. So Tulsi's statement there is just wildly narcissistic and delusional.

Don't change the subject.

Your post was inaccurate.
 
Yes, I am deferring to multiple experts that have reported and/or commented/written that our presence there was not a regime change. I'm also stating the obvious - we didn't actually change the regime.

Not from lack of trying.....we wanted to topple Assad so bad we were basically Jaish Al-Islam's (Al Queida) Air Force.
 
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I don't think you understand the discussion.



So the brave thing to do would be to, what, pretend that Gabbard hasn't been promoted on RT and by Russian bots?

Interesting.....objectively speaking, RT America has been WAY more accurate on the Syrian War than ANY other mainstream media in the US. Then again, RTs sponsors aren't weapons manufacturers who stand to profit directly from us staying in war.

What is this the 1950s? This Neo-McCarthyism has gotten way out of hand. Being against unnecessary wars does not make you a traitor, it makes you a rational human being.

Hillary lost to Trump because she was a bad candidate. The longer she campaigns, the more her poll numbers go down. She couldn't win a presidential race even if she rigged it. That has nothing to do with Russia. All this Russia interference, bots and assets garbage started as an excuse for the clinton camp on why they lost the election.
 
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So far I’ve from these last few pages I’ve leaned that if you the complete opposite opinion as @Jack V Savage @kpt018 @Fawlty et al then you are doing alright and have a strong relationship with reality

The hypocrisy knows no bounds with the troop....incredible stuff
 
You're just now figuring that out, dude?

Goddam autocorrect got me in my last post and I can’t edit....

Anyways I knew this, but I didn’t know that what level the hackery ascended. I mean it’s entertaining to read and kind of sad at the same time....but more entertaining
 
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